Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-28 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Rafael Weinstein wrote: What do you think? - Is this something you'd like to be implemented in the browsers, Yes. and if yes, why? What would be the reasons to not just use script libraries (like your prototype). FAQ item also coming for this.

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-28 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Rafael Weinstein wrote: What do you think? - Is this something you'd like to be implemented in the browsers, Yes.  and if yes, why? What would be the reasons to not just use script  

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-28 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 28, 2011, at 2:33 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Rafael Weinstein wrote: What do you think? - Is this something you'd like to be implemented in the browsers, Yes. and

Re: [widgets] Widget Updates tests?

2011-04-28 Thread Rich Tibbett
Scott Wilson wrote: Right, I've done some basic work on the tests in Apache Wookie - most of them seem to work OK so far; I need to do interactive testing next - I've tested processing the update element in config.xml and acquiring and validating the UDD, but not actually processing the

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-28 Thread Olli Pettay
On 04/28/2011 12:02 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Rafael Weinstein wrote: What do you think? - Is this something you'd like to be implemented in the browsers, Yes. and if yes, why? What would be the reasons to not just use script libraries (like your

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-28 Thread Alex Russell
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 4/22/11 8:35 PM, Rafael Weinstein wrote: Myself and a few other chromium folks have been working on a design for a formalized separation between

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-28 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Apr 28, 2011, at 2:33 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Rafael Weinstein wrote: What do you think? - Is this

Re: [widgets] Widget Updates tests?

2011-04-28 Thread Scott Wilson
On 28 Apr 2011, at 12:19, Rich Tibbett wrote: Scott Wilson wrote: Right, I've done some basic work on the tests in Apache Wookie - most of them seem to work OK so far; I need to do interactive testing next - I've tested processing the update element in config.xml and acquiring and

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-28 Thread Olli Pettay
On 04/28/2011 04:46 AM, Rafael Weinstein wrote: Would be good to know what are the use cases you had in mind. I'm never sure if I'm using the term use case correctly =-). Our primary motivator is the needs of web applications, And what are those needs? It is hard to judge the proposal if

Re: [widgets] Widget Updates tests?

2011-04-28 Thread Hari Kumar G
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:57:20 +0200, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: One more thing, the widget at: http://people.opera.com/harig/wupdres/resources/pass.wgt ... isn't valid as its not well formed - there should be ? at end of line 1. Fixed. -- Hari Kumar G

Re: [widgets] Widget Updates tests?

2011-04-28 Thread Scott Wilson
On 28 Apr 2011, at 14:11, Hari Kumar G wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:57:20 +0200, Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: ... One more thing, the widget at: http://people.opera.com/harig/wupdres/resources/pass.wgt ... isn't valid as its not well formed - there should be

[eventsource] Processing comments from the 10-Mar-2011 LCWD

2011-04-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, All, April 21 was the comment deadline for the March 10 LCWD of the Server-Sent Events spec [SSE-LC]. Since that LC was published, I noted 1 set of comments and 1 new bug: * CfC: server-sent-events; 15-Apr-2011; Ian Clelland

[workers] Processing comments from 10-Mar-2011 LCWD

2011-04-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, All, April 21 was the comment deadline for the March 10 LCWD of the Web Workers spec [WW-LC]. Since that LC was published, I noted 2 set of comments and 2 new bugs: * Adrian Bateman; 9-Mar-2011 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JanMar/0877.html * Travis

Re: [workers] Processing comments from 10-Mar-2011 LCWD

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: Hixie - what normative changes have been made in the ED [WW-ED] (since the LC was published) that would affect an implementation based on the March 10 LC? No idea, I don't track changes at the level of individual W3C specs for these technologies.

[webstorage] Plan to address open Bugs?

2011-04-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
All, What is the plan to address the following Web Storage bugs: 1. Bug-12111; spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12111 2. Bug-12272; Improve section on DNS spoofing attacks to address user

Re: [webstorage] Plan to address open Bugs?

2011-04-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: What is the plan to address the following Web Storage bugs: 1. Bug-12111; spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12111 2. Bug-12272; Improve section on

Re: [webstorage] Plan to address open Bugs?

2011-04-28 Thread Arthur Barstow
Well, I guess the good news is that (at the time of this writing), there aren't 355 bugs ;). All - Inputs and proposals for these bugs are encouraged! On Apr/28/2011 2:33 PM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: What is the plan to address the following Web

Server-Sent Event types

2011-04-28 Thread Brett Zamir
I am a newcomer to the Server-Sent Events spec, so my apologies if I am covering old ground. While I can understand that Server-Sent Events may be intending to start off simple, I wonder whether there is some reason a formal mechanism was not adopted to at least allow the specification of

Server-Side Events encoded in JSON

2011-04-28 Thread Brett Zamir
user to parse the response text, why not simply allow each event to be a JSON-encoded object of some kind (boolean, number, string, array, object). Then the event.data could be an object which was already conveniently accessible to JavaScript consumers. Presumably server-side libraries would

Global variables and id lookup for elements

2011-04-28 Thread Magnus Kristiansen
Hey folks, Context: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20110428#l-707 Current browsers disagree about how to handle div id=x/divscriptvar x;/script. Webkit browsers leave x pointing to the div, whereas IE, Firefox and Opera make x undefined [1]. (There is content that depends on x being

Re: Global variables and id lookup for elements

2011-04-28 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 4/28/11 4:31 PM, Magnus Kristiansen wrote: Current browsers disagree about how to handle div id=x/divscriptvar x;/script. Webkit browsers leave x pointing to the div, whereas IE, Firefox and Opera make x undefined [1]. (There is content that depends on x being undefined, but I don't have any

Re: Global variables and id lookup for elements

2011-04-28 Thread Cameron McCormack
Boris Zbarsky: For what it's worth, the way Gecko implements this is by inserting an object into the prototype chain of the Window that handles these property gets. This means that |var| (which defines a prop on the Window itself) will always shadow the named props, which is the behavior you

Re: Server-Sent Event types

2011-04-28 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Brett Zamir bret...@gmail.com wrote: I am a newcomer to the Server-Sent Events spec, so my apologies if I am covering old ground. While I can understand that Server-Sent Events may be intending to start off simple, I wonder whether there is some reason a

Re: Global variables and id lookup for elements

2011-04-28 Thread Garrett Smith
On 4/28/11, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: For what it's worth, the way Gecko implements this is by inserting an object into the prototype chain of the Window that handles these property gets. This means that |var| (which defines a prop on the Window itself) will always shadow the

Re: Model-driven Views

2011-04-28 Thread Garrett Smith
On 4/28/11, Olli Pettay olli.pet...@helsinki.fi wrote: On 04/28/2011 04:46 AM, Rafael Weinstein wrote: Would be good to know what are the use cases you had in mind. I'm never sure if I'm using the term use case correctly =-). Our primary motivator is the needs of web applications, And