Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-16 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:21:09 +0200, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.comwrote: The reason for using it was in part that there were people there who were working on dom and not on the (quite high traffic) webapps list

Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-15 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.comwrote: The reason for using it was in part that there were people there who were working on dom and not on the (quite high traffic) webapps list which discusses many other things. LKML is a high-traffic list. Maybe

Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-14 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 02:35:58 +0200, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoe...@gmx.net wrote: * Ojan Vafai wrote: This confusion seems to come up a lot since DOM is part of public-webapps but uses a separate mailing list. Maybe it's time to reconsider that decision? It's the editors of the specs who have

Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-13 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Travis Leithead travis.leith...@microsoft.com wrote: I wouldn’t mind. I’m on both lists anyway. Schepers originally saw it as a way of scoping DOM3 Events discussions away from the noise on public-webapps. I’m not sure that’s a real big concern anymore. I don't

Re: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-13 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Ojan Vafai wrote: This confusion seems to come up a lot since DOM is part of public-webapps but uses a separate mailing list. Maybe it's time to reconsider that decision? It's the editors of the specs who have the largest say here IMO. The confusion is not going to go away by changing the

[DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
of the version in w3.org/TR/) -Thanks, AB Original Message Subject:[DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children Resent-Date:Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:01:51 + Resent-From:public-webapps@w3.org Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:39:36 -0700 From: ext Elliott

Re: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Elliott Sprehn
Okay, I'll use that one. Both the editors draft and the referenced one are same in this respect though. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.comwrote: Elliott, All - please use the www-...@w3.org list for DOM4 discussions

Re: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Elliott Sprehn
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 6/11/12 7:39 PM, Elliott Sprehn wrote: After discussing this with some other contributors there were questions on why we're enforcing the order of the document child nodes. Because otherwise serialization of the

Re: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Ojan Vafai
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Elliott Sprehn espr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 6/11/12 7:39 PM, Elliott Sprehn wrote: After discussing this with some other contributors there were questions on why we're enforcing the

www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Ojan Vafai
Subject:[DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children Resent-Date:Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:01:51 + Resent-From:public-webapps@w3.org Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:39:36 -0700 From: ext Elliott Sprehn espr...@gmail.com To: public-webapps@w3.org I'm working

RE: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-12 Thread Travis Leithead
, 2012 11:10 AM To: Arthur Barstow Cc: espr...@gmail.com; www-dom; public-webapps Subject: www-dom vs public-webapps WAS: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children This confusion seems to come up a lot since DOM is part of public-webapps but uses a separate mailing list. Maybe

[DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-11 Thread Elliott Sprehn
I'm working on places where Webkit doesn't follow the DOM4 mutation algorithm and one of the bugs is not throwing an exception when a doctype node is inserted after an element in a document (or other permutations of the same situation). https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88682

Re: [DOM4] Mutation algorithm imposed order on document children

2012-06-11 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 6/11/12 7:39 PM, Elliott Sprehn wrote: After discussing this with some other contributors there were questions on why we're enforcing the order of the document child nodes. Because otherwise serialization of the result would be ... very broken? Can we leave the behavior when your document