Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-13 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
On 13/12/2014 05:58, Ben Peters wrote: You all have excellent points, thank you! Device Independent Events gets straight to the point, and I like that. Are there any objections to calling this concept Device Independent Events? [...] The reason I want to have this broad conversation about namin

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Simon Pieters
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 17:02:25 +0100, Frederico Knabben wrote: On Friday, 12 December 2014 at 14:40, Simon Pieters wrote: How about "device-independent events"? Aren’t we missing what kinds of events we’re talking about? We would just know that those events are device-independent. So far w

RE: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Ben Peters
You all have excellent points, thank you! Device Independent Events gets straight to the point, and I like that. Are there any objections to calling this concept Device Independent Events? My goal with "Responsive Input Events" was to encourage web developers to use them as part of the responsi

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
On 12/12/2014 13:40, Simon Pieters wrote: How about "device-independent events"? I always liked "input agnostic", but that's probably too religiously loaded a term for some... P -- Patrick H. Lauke www.splintered.co.uk | https://github.com/patrickhlauke http://flickr.com/photos/redux/ | htt

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Frederico Knabben
On Friday, 12 December 2014 at 14:40, Simon Pieters wrote: > How about "device-independent events"? Aren’t we missing what kinds of events we’re talking about? We would just know that those events are device-independent. So far we’ve been talking about “input” events. If this is still the case,

RE: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL
] Responsive Input Terminology sounds quite reasonable to me. 12.12.2014, 16:41, "Simon Pieters" : > On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:39:47 +0100, Tobie Langel > > wrote: >>  On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Arthur Barstow >> >>  wrote: >>>  What is your co

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread chaals
sounds quite reasonable to me. 12.12.2014, 16:41, "Simon Pieters" : > On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:39:47 +0100, Tobie Langel > wrote: >>  On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Arthur Barstow >>  wrote: >>>  What is your counter-proposal? >>  Heh. >> >>  Fair enough, I guess. :) >> >>  These seem related to

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Simon Pieters
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:39:47 +0100, Tobie Langel wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: What is your counter-proposal? Heh. Fair enough, I guess. :) These seem related to what Java calls semantic events [JAVADOC], so I'd give that a try to see if it fits the mod

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Tobie Langel
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: > What is your counter-proposal? Heh. Fair enough, I guess. :) These seem related to what Java calls semantic events [JAVADOC], so I'd give that a try to see if it fits the model. If not, would "abstract events" or simply "high-level even

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
On 12/12/2014 08:38, Frederico Knabben wrote: At a frist glance I almost agreed with you, Björn. Note though that, in terms of output, these events we’re talking about are adapted to the input method used to generate them. We’re not any more talking about device specific events, like “mouse clic

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 12/12/14 6:25 AM, Tobie Langel wrote: I'd be extremely wary of naming a category of DOM events after a term that has a high buzz factor. Hi Tobie, What is your counter-proposal? -Thanks, AB

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Tobie Langel
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ben Peters wrote: > There has been a lot of debate [1][2] about the correct name for device > independent events [3] as a concept*. We have considered Intention Events, > Command Events, and Action Events among others. I believe we now have a > good name for them-

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-12 Thread Frederico Knabben
At a frist glance I almost agreed with you, Björn. Note though that, in terms of output, these events we’re talking about are adapted to the input method used to generate them. We’re not any more talking about device specific events, like “mouse click” or “key press”. One of these events could

Re: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-11 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Ben Peters wrote: >There has been a lot of debate [1][2] about the correct name for device >independent events [3] as a concept*. We have considered Intention >Events, Command Events, and Action Events among others. I believe we now >have a good name for them- Responsive Input Events. The reas

RE: [editing] Responsive Input Terminology

2014-12-11 Thread Cynthia Shelly
I like this a lot. In my experience, "responsive" is a word with positive connotations in web development. I agree that these input events are the corollary to responsive layout. -Original Message- From: Ben Peters [mailto:ben.pet...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11