Re: [pylons-discuss] Re: deciding on pyramid vs ruby

2014-12-09 Thread Jacob Hite
+1 to all the responses regarding there being Python and Ruby developers vs there being Django and Rails developers (and even Wordpress developers...*cough*...vs PHP developers). I got my degree in Computer Science, so I just consider myself a developer, period. The point of these narrowly scoped d

Re: [pylons-discuss] Proper way to send csrf token to client

2014-12-09 Thread Jacob Hite
I'm not a security expert, but you'll generally want to use XSRF for POSTs. And depending on what client side you're using, you'll need to make sure the the client/server are in sync. I use AngularJS on the front end and it expects XSRF-TOKEN to be the name of the cookie (I believe beaker uses CSR

Re: [pylons-discuss] Proper way to send csrf token to client

2014-12-09 Thread Mehdi
I did, but that didn't answer my questions. On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 12:42:29 AM UTC+3:30, Steve Piercy wrote: > > Did you search the docs? > > http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/latest/narr/sessions.html?highlight=csrf#preventing-cross-site-request-forgery-attacks > > > -

Re: [pylons-discuss] Proper way to send csrf token to client

2014-12-09 Thread Steve Piercy
Did you search the docs? http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/latest/narr/sessions.html?highlight=csrf#preventing-cross-site-request-forgery-attacks --steve On 12/9/14 at 12:50 PM, mese1...@gmail.com (Mehdi) pronounced: Hi I have my pyramid app with beaker session enabled. now i

[pylons-discuss] Proper way to send csrf token to client

2014-12-09 Thread Mehdi
Hi I have my pyramid app with beaker session enabled. now i want to make my app more secure against csrf attacks, but i don't get it right: 1- Should i set check_csrf=True in all my view_configs? if yes then how could i get the csrf token in the first place? 2- If no then in this exact view how s

[pylons-discuss] Re: deciding on pyramid vs ruby

2014-12-09 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
I'll preface this by saying that I'm biased towards Pyramid, and when I have to program - I prefer it. I begrudgingly program though - I'm usually on the business/product/management side. But in the past 3 years: I've been working extensively with Pyramid on a personal project, was CTO of a

[pylons-discuss] Re: deciding on pyramid vs ruby

2014-12-09 Thread Torsten Irländer
Am Dienstag, 9. Dezember 2014 16:52:03 UTC+1 schrieb lostdorje: > > Building a startup with a small team, how to decide between using Pyramid > (or possibly Django) or Ruby? > When deciding between the programming languages Python and Ruby I would go for Python. Python has a strong and stable u

Re: [pylons-discuss] deciding on pyramid vs ruby

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Dallago
@Paul hiring is hard all around in my experience. I generally just look for good programmers. People who know programming have no problem picking up Python and Pyramid. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Paul Winkler wrote: > FWIW (very little) I have worked in a couple of Django shops here in N

Re: [pylons-discuss] deciding on pyramid vs ruby

2014-12-09 Thread Joe Dallago
We've been using Pyramid for the last 2.5 years at our startup, having built it from the ground up. I'm always amazed at how much code we get to reuse through each iteration of the site. In addition to that, we have never had to work against the framework, we've always just been able to build on

Re: [pylons-discuss] deciding on pyramid vs ruby

2014-12-09 Thread Paul Winkler
FWIW (very little) I have worked in a couple of Django shops here in NYC, and I find it hard to hire enough good Django devs because it's a job-seeker's market here, and it seems Django is getting "boring" to a lot of people. One way companies compete for talent is by having more interesting techn

Re: [pylons-discuss] deciding on pyramid vs ruby

2014-12-09 Thread Paul Everitt
I think this is a reasonable and useful post. Likely moreso than this response. :) It’s quite useful to look at the “whole product” instead of just the “product” (to use jargon from Crossing the Chasm.) Can you get enough ecosystem for the surface area of the thing you are using? One factor th

[pylons-discuss] deciding on pyramid vs ruby

2014-12-09 Thread Jacob Hite
Building a startup with a small team, how to decide between using Pyramid (or possibly Django) or Ruby? This may be an impossible question to answer and I'm probably asking on a biased list. I've worked a lot before on Pyramid and generally like it. It was fast and very flexible, but missing some