Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On 8/8/06, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>I would suggest that PyPy's use of ctypes, coupled with the inclusion of
>>>ctypes in the Python 2.5 stdlib, means that ctypes could reasonably be
>>>considered a defacto standard for a C FFI in Python at this point.
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:31:59 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> Isn't a problem with ctypes that such extensions can no longer
> guarantee "no segfaults"?
How would you guarantee the "no segfaults" policy for every other bindings
involved? In either case, auditing an extension written using ctypes
At 02:45 PM 8/8/2006 -0700, Paul Prescod wrote:
>As you said elsewhere, PyPy can compile an Rpython+rctypes program to a
>C file, just as Pyrex does. So I don't understand why you see them as
>"entirely unrelated".
Disclaimer again: I like and use Pyrex; I even built additional support for
it int
>...
>
> Just FYI, but if I understand correctly, PyPy is now using
> the ctypes API for its FFI. Also, RPython is entirely
> unrelated to Pyrex. RPython is Python with restrictions on
> how it's used, and doesn't include an FFI of its own.
As you said elsewhere, PyPy can compile an Rpython+
On 8/8/06, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would suggest that PyPy's use of ctypes, coupled with the inclusion of
> > ctypes in the Python 2.5 stdlib, means that ctypes could reasonably be
> > considered a defacto standard for a C FFI in Python at this point.
>
> Intriguing idea. I kn
For those as ignorant as I was, FFI does not here mean
Friendly File Interface
Fauna and Flora International
Family Firm Institute
Forsvarets forskningsinstitutt
Film Finances, Inc.
Financial Freedom Institute
Focus on the Family Institute
...
(all but the first from Google)
but Foreign Function I
"Collin Winter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 8/8/06, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I personally don't see much of a use for set literals, considering that
> > there is a non-ambiguous spelling of it currently; set(...), whose only
> > cost above and beyond that of a set liter
On 8/8/06, Josiah Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I personally don't see much of a use for set literals, considering that
> there is a non-ambiguous spelling of it currently; set(...), whose only
> cost above and beyond that of a set literal is a global name lookup.
I thought one of the main
On 8/8/06, tomer filiba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> my previous suggestion asked for is a means to raise exceptions in the
> context of *other* threads.
...
> * breaking the thread's state -- that's not really an issue. i'm not talking
> about *forcefully* killing the thread, without cleanup.
T
[Note: Discussion should move to the python-3000 list]
At 11:28 AM 8/8/2006 -0700, Paul Prescod wrote:
>I'll use up a little bit of my post-conference goodwill to push a
>long-term obsession of mine...using a Python variant as the "standard"
>extension/FFI model for Python (3000). I've heard varia
"tomer filiba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> after all, exceptions can occur anywhere in the code, and at any time...
It's impossible to write safe code when exceptions can occur at any
time, except when you already happen have the needed atomic primitives
available.
Let's say we have a mutable
let me bring this anew, as the the previous discussion has gone quite off tracks.i know there are many theories/paradigms concerning parallel execution, some require language level constructs, other being external, and let's not
ever start talking about the GIL.(on a side note, if i may add my opin
Talin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've seen some languages that use a double-dot (..) to mean a range of
> items. This could be syntactic sugar for range(), like so:
>
>
> for x in 1..10:
>...
In the pronouncement on PEP 284: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0284/
Guido
Talin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Part 1: The concrete proposal part.
>
> I noticed that a lot of folks seemed to like the idea of making the
> empty set resemble the greek letter Phi, using a combination of
> parentheses and the vertical bar or forward slash character.
>
> So lets expand
I've seen some languages that use a double-dot (..) to mean a range of
items. This could be syntactic sugar for range(), like so:
for x in 1..10:
...
-- Talin
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Part 1: The concrete proposal part.
I noticed that a lot of folks seemed to like the idea of making the
empty set resemble the greek letter Phi, using a combination of
parentheses and the vertical bar or forward slash character.
So lets expand on this: slice Phi in half and say that (| and |) a
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