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The reason I'm not a fan is the fact that, with shell=True, you can use the
*executable* argument to Popen to select a non-default shell. At that point,
passing a list can make sense, even if it isn't useful for the default shell.
Modulo
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Links to the rambling Unicode threads for posterity and convenience:
Gets into several issues, among them, Unicode:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2012-February/013665.html
Unicode-specific offshoot of the above:
http
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The alternative is to call Popen(['xdg-open', etc.]) and check if we get
ENOENT, but I don’t know if this would be non-ambiguous (for example, do we
get ENOENT if xdg-open exists but not the file?).
It's unambiguous. Python itself never
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The randomization introduced by the fix for issue 13703 means that the example
string hash values given in
http://docs.python.org/dev/faq/design.html#how-are-dictionaries-implemented are
liable to become more difficult to reproduce
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I regret to inform you that those changes made the sentence in question
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Well, I thought the Glossary was a somewhat useful document in and of itself
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should include all terms which aren't module-specific.
But I won't push hard if no one
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Python's function annotations, and that in Python their uses are typically
served using
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Strawman entry wording:
An annotation is an arbitrary metadata value associated with a function
parameter or return value. The syntax for function annotations is explained in
[Function
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[...] The keys can be any object with __hash__() function and __eq__()
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__hash__() is a method, not a function (well, it's a hash function in the
computer science sense, but it's
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My suggestion was a seealso to parallel those in the The with Statement and
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@Bendersky:
Unlike open()'s other arguments, that one wouldn't be orthogonal though. It
would be possible to write e.g.:
f = open(fname, encoding=big5, errors=replace, ascii_only=True)
which seems disturbing, IMO. It would be nicer to rule
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Is format() really the best choice here, considering that {}s already have a
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Per msg129958, attached is my stab at a patch to replace most uses of
os.popen() with the subprocess module. The test suite passes on my Mac, but the
patch does touch some specific-to-other-platform code, so further testing is
obviously
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Scouting around the CPython codebase a bit, I speculate that the cause of this
behavior is that PyErr_GivenExceptionMatches() in errors.c uses
PyType_IsSubtype() [which simply walks a class's __mro__ checking for pointer
equality] rather
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Slight tangent: Regarding os.popen()'s [documentation] status, there's a bug
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Surveying the docs, the current behavior *is* /technically/ correct (in a
suspiciously precise way) according to the Language Reference:
http://docs.python.org/dev/reference/compound_stmts.html#grammar-token-try_stmt
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For an except clause
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the above Note mentioned in those last two lines demonstrates shlex.split()
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Adjusted patch per R. David's comment.
I obviously think it should be a full red warning box (that's how it is in my
patch), but my opinion clearly isn't an outside one.
Also, Ping/Bump on finally getting this applied.
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See http://docs.python.org/py3k/c-api/unicode.html#file-system-encoding
Note the literal and unhyperlinked :func:PyUnicode_FSConverter in the last
sentence of the first paragraph. I suspect there's a trivial syntax error in
the ReST source
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http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/os.html currently mentions os.popen() in
several places. The docs for os.popen() itself say:
'These functions are described in section File Object Creation'
However, unlike the 2.x version
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I found some extra time. Here's an initial suggested patch against py3k head.
Disclaimer: I have no special expertise in computer security beyond having read
Secure Coding: Principles and Practices a while back.
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I'm busy with finding an apartment and taking exams for the next week-or-so,
but after that I'll try and suggest a patch. If anyone wants to have a crack at
it between now and then, don't let me stop you
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One last triviality: Could the mention of __subclasscheck__() in
http://docs.python.org/dev/library/abc.html#abc.ABCMeta.__subclasshook__ get
linked to the newly-added docs?
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This might need to be reopened.
There's a verb missing from he following sentence of the patch:
This is consistent with the lookup of special methods that called on
instances, only that in this case the instance is itself a class.
Secondly
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Here's a draft of an updated version of the Data model docs reflecting the
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One problem with the 3.x versions: the raw_input() should be input().
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Thanks to all for the copious feedback suggestions, and R. David Murray for
his superior docs writing skills!
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Well, the same basic example is used for cohesiveness, but the issue/pitfall
being highlighted in each note is distinct. But you have a point about shlex
being pointed out twice, so here's a version with that redundancy excised
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Counterpatch incorporating R. David Murray's succinctness improvements while
retaining correct positioning of the first note, managing to incorporate the
3rd note not present in Mr. Murray's, and including more precise wording to
address
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This version takes Murray's most recent draft, applies some minor tweaks from
my prior patch, and has the python -c etc. changed to echo '$MONEY' so the
sh -c comment is completely unambiguous (and it's a simpler example generally).
Whether
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Working on a more concise new draft...
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Gonna have to disagree about the raw_input(), because the escaping involved
would complicate the example and could be distracting/confusing.
Rest of Brian's suggestions taken into account.
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Ok, changed to note directives instead of warnings. Anything else
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From what I've seen on several c.l.p threads, some people have a tough
time figuring the correct 'args' argument to subprocess.Popen's
constructor. In an effort to cut down on such discussions in the future,
I've written the attached docs
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The current error message issued when trying to use the get item ([])
operator on an object that does not define __getitem__ can be hard to
understand:
class
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to convert between the various time representations. As it currently
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