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On May 13, 2013, at 02:24 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>Yep. Since we no longer have a compelling reason for it to be anything
>else, it may as well be the human readable string.
Again, why does it matter? That's the whole point of having a human r
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>> >I agree with Nick here, there's no reason to auto-number constants
>> >in
>> >Python. This is not C :-)
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>>>> class Shape(Enum):
>... square = 2
>... diamond = 1
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>... alias_for_square = square
I see Guido pronounced against it, but I'm just registering that I
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It's not *particularly* silly[1], but I think that with Government backing, he
could make it very silly.
[1] I mean, the right hand side isn't silly at all and the left hand side
merely does a forward aerial half turn every alternative
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>I agree with Nick here, there's no reason to auto-number constants in
>Python. This is not C :-)
Why should they be strings? Why not object()?
Why is `x.value == str(x)` a useful invari
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> The class syntax (and default Enum) no longer have preferential treatment for
> integers (even __int__ is gone); so it is completely up to us as what should
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>current integers starting from one.
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Ezio, the problem with your patch is that it also gives a warning on this code,
which is totally safe:
def good():
exc = None
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bar(int(sys.argv[1]))
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On Apr 19, 2013, at 12:37 AM, R. David Murray wrote:
>And what if it weren't a print statement? An error is better than a
>"randomly" changed value, I think. I'm really not sure there is anything we
>can do here, beyond Ezio
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On Apr 19, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Ezio Melotti wrote:
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>Maybe we could raise a warning when the deleted name already exists in the
>local namespace?
Ideally, I think a SyntaxError if you could detect a previously bound name in
the namespace being u
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e = None
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>I can't see how this could be classed as a bug in Python. An invalid domain
>should quickly return a DNS error on a correctly configured operating system,
>which is what the test is tes
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% ./python -m unittest test.test_urllibnet
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Possibly this issue: Possibly this issue:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=312011
I'm seeing tons of this on Ubuntu 13.04.
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Serhiy, I'd say go ahead and commit it. +1 from me.
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>From a documentation standpoint, path='' is not the same as "When no path is
>specified", so indeed it should return None when path=''. Serhiy's patch
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We should fix the code for 3.2 through 3.4, but change the docs for 3.2 and 3.3
to remove the parenthetical note. For 3.4 we can leave the parenthetical note
but say this is new in 3.4 (or maybe, that it doesn't actually work in some
versions <
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Okay, so this is not a Python problem, but an Ubuntu problem. It's also not a
problem with Ubuntu's version of Python. I can reproduce it on Ubuntu 13.04
with hg trunk, but not Debian Wheezy with hg trunk.
Closing as invalid and will investigate
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On Apr 02, 2013, at 03:04 PM, Eric V. Smith wrote:
>I think it would be a bug fix and thus should be backported. It's not like
>we'd be breaking any working code, unless it was expecting the exception.
That would
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>My suggestion is to have format() be an alias for
>format_string(). Deprecating format() is an optional step, but may not be
>worth the hassle.
Agreed on bo
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>importlib.abc.Loader.module_repr() to no longer be abstract and the default
>to be defined as ``return repr(module)``. Els
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>Barry, Eric: can you clarify why you made module_repr an abstractmethod and
>thus require its overloading?
Maybe Eric can, but I can't. ;) I honestly don't remember why we made it
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On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Eric Snow wrote:
>Would it be okay to do a check on __index__ after the PyLong_Check()
>succeeds? Something like this:
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You also end up with this nice bit of inconsistency:
>>> x = myint(7)
>>> from operator import index
>>> range(10)[6:x]
range(6, 7)
>>> range(10)[6:x.__index__()]
range(6, 8)
>>> range(10)[6:index(x)]
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>There was a long thread about this on python-dev that might be worth going
>back over, where I had the same misconception (that functions should always
>return the same type as their arguments).
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This came up at the Pycon 2013 Python 3 porting clinic. There are many cases
in the stdlib that claim (either explicitly or implicitly) to accept bytes or
strings, but that don't return the type of the arguments they accept. An
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It seems to me that the right thing to add a related PEPs section to any PEP
which needs it, but I don't think we need an official header for it. Thus, I'm
closing this PEP as Won't Fix. Feel free to open new bugs for any specific PEP
that n
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>section of PEP-0001. I have added some of the PEP editors listed in the PEP
>as nosy. I will let them decid
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>understood without the (missing) original context.
Plus, we fear change. ;)
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>> We're not going to want to install all possible flavors of
>> `pyunit2.6`, `pyunit2.7`, `punit2.6-dbg`, `pyunit-3.2-dbg`, etc. etc.
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recommendation on distros such as Debian which provide multiple versions of
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>> Barry advised me to open this issue as it's a functional regression from
>> Python 2.
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>But it was relying on a private
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I think this has now been applied to all of 2.6, 2.7, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, and 3.4.
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Release blocking for 2.6.9 (oh how I wish we could release block for specific
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Does the 2.x patch apply cleanly to 2.6? If so, then I think it should be
applied (though I'd like to review it first). 2.6 is still under security
maintenance until October 2013. I'm thinking we'll probably do one last
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>would be better to let people catch an exception signaling that an import
>didn't happen because some module
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Like an attribute on the exception? +1
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import logging
f = logging.StrFormatStyle('{asctimer}')
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>optional modules (e.g. not on support platforms), or do most people see
>ImportError because they messed up and tried to im
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errors generally or not. We see ImportErrors all the time, and they are
clearly errors. If we're expected to see and deal with MNF, and if in such
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See PEP 292 and the section titled "Why `$' and Braces?"
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In this distribute bug I describe a problem when pip installing mimeparse,
which has a setup.py with a BOM. distribute uses execfile() which gets fixed
in Python 3 to use a combination of compile(open()) as the fixer.
https://bitbucket.org/tarek
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Nosied Benjamin since this is a release issue. Re-opened, assigned to him, and
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