Re: [python-committers] Status of the Derby, and request for another slip

2014-01-25 Thread Larry Hastings
On 01/25/2014 05:35 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Stop the Derby. We needn't convert everything for 3.4 (I didn't even know that was your goal). Converting everything was my goal at one point. At this point it is nowhere near viable, not the least because there simply isn't enough time. As

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread Eli Bendersky
Interesting. Chromium has something kind-of similar, named commit queue, for developers without actual commit access. Once they get an LGTM, the thing rolls automatically. In fact, core developers often find it useful too because the Chromium tree is sometimes closed (red). We don't really do the

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:49:56 -0800, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: do the latter in Python, which carries a problem we'll probably need to resolve first - how to know that the bots are green enough. That really needs human attention. By that needs human attention, do you mean: dealing

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. Chromium has something kind-of similar, named commit queue, for developers without actual commit access. Once they get an LGTM, the thing rolls automatically. In fact, core developers often find it useful too

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:35:59 -0800, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:14 AM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.comwrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:49:56 -0800, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: do the latter in Python, which carries a problem we'll probably

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread Donald Stufft
On Jan 25, 2014, at 10:09 AM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:35:59 -0800, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:14 AM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.comwrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:49:56 -0800, Eli Bendersky

Re: [python-committers] Status of the Derby, and request for another slip

2014-01-25 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On dim., 2014-01-26 at 01:40 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: I think an extra beta is still a good idea, though - I'd like to get at least the builtins that are already supported converted, since that clearly demonstrates the benefits the tool is designed to bring in reducing the discrepancies

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:13 AM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.comwrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:59:19 -0800, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Eli Bendersky

Re: [python-committers] Status of the Derby, and request for another slip

2014-01-25 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On sam., 2014-01-25 at 17:14 +0100, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On dim., 2014-01-26 at 01:40 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: I think an extra beta is still a good idea, though - I'd like to get at least the builtins that are already supported converted, since that clearly demonstrates the benefits the

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On sam., 2014-01-25 at 06:35 -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:14 AM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:49:56 -0800, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: do the latter in Python, which carries a problem we'll

Re: [python-committers] Status of the Derby, and request for another slip

2014-01-25 Thread Jesus Cea
On 25/01/14 19:33, Ethan Furman wrote: On 01/25/2014 07:40 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: Basically, I suggest implementing the current bug fixes minor features AC patch you're working on, and then calling it done for 3.4, with only outright bugs in existing conversions to be fixed before 3.5.

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/25/2014 2:55 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On sam., 2014-01-25 at 06:35 -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:14 AM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:49:56 -0800, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: do the latter

Re: [python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

2014-01-25 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/25/2014 9:54 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. Chromium has something kind-of similar, named commit queue, for developers without actual commit access. Once they get an LGTM, the thing rolls automatically. In