Re: [python-committers] 1 week to Oct 1

2018-09-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 26, 2018, at 19:28, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > > Really sorry folks, but I also would like to request an extension, by one > week to Oct 8. > It's not because I've been slacking; I've started a five-page document (only > Barry has seen it), but I still need his help before it can be ready

Re: [python-committers] 1 week to Oct 1

2018-09-26 Thread Mariatta Wijaya
Really sorry folks, but I also would like to request an extension, by one week to Oct 8. It's not because I've been slacking; I've started a five-page document (only Barry has seen it), but I still need his help before it can be ready for the public. In addition, I'm facing personal health issue.

Re: [python-committers] Python 4.0 or Python 3.10?

2018-09-26 Thread Yury Selivanov
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 1:25 PM Paul Moore wrote: [..] > but I don't know how > useful it would be in practice - can you give some examples of use > cases?) It's hard to give a real life example as "py" doesn't support this, but I can imagine the following scenario: if I have a script that uses

Re: [python-committers] Python 4.0 or Python 3.10?

2018-09-26 Thread Paul Moore
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 18:15, Yury Selivanov wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:28 PM Brett Cannon wrote: > [..] > >> What is the status of Brett's UNIX Python launcher "py" by the way? > > > > > > You can see the current TODO list at > > https://crates.io/crates/python-launcher . Basically

Re: [python-committers] Python 4.0 or Python 3.10?

2018-09-26 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 15:58, Victor Stinner wrote: > Serhiy: > > And changing the major version number itself is significant breaking > change. From the name of the executable (python3 vs python4) hardcoded in > Python > > IMHO It's time to discuss again modifying the "python" program to always

Re: [python-committers] Python 4.0 or Python 3.10?

2018-09-26 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 9/25/18 9:30 PM, Yury Selivanov wrote: What's the current plan for what version of Python we release after 3.9? The reason I'm asking this is because I frequently need to refer to *that version* of Python in the documentation, especially when I'm deprecating APIs or behavior. Right now I'm

Re: [python-committers] Python 4.0 or Python 3.10?

2018-09-26 Thread INADA Naoki
For the record, Guido prefer 3.10 to 4.0, before he retired BDFL. https://python.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/116503-core/subject/rhel/near/124934902 Regards, -- INADA Naoki ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org

Re: [python-committers] Python 4.0 or Python 3.10?

2018-09-26 Thread Mark Shannon
Hi, On 25/09/18 20:30, Yury Selivanov wrote: What's the current plan for what version of Python we release after 3.9? [snip] For the record, we account for the following version tests when analysing code (on lgtm.com): sys.version == "3" sys.version_info > (3,) sys.version_info[0] == 3

Re: [python-committers] [PEP 8013] The External Council Governance Model

2018-09-26 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Thanks, Steve, for writing this up: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8013/ A couple of comments: I like the council model, but don't understand why the core developers should be stripped from any decision powers. External people will not have the institutional knowledge core developers

Re: [python-committers] 1 week to Oct 1

2018-09-26 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Could the authors of those PEPs please at least publish a rough outline of what their model is all about ? It doesn't help if we set a deadline only to find that we should have written up a competing PEP shortly before the deadline passes. The only text we have at this point is PEP 8013:

Re: [python-committers] 1 week to Oct 1

2018-09-26 Thread Carol Willing
I'm still optimistic that the October 1 deadline is achievable. It's important for the larger Python community to have confidence that we enter 2019 with a governance plan. > On Sep 25, 2018, at 2:58 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > > Le 24/09/2018 à 20:32, Mariatta Wijaya a écrit : >> It is