Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Łukasz Langa
As you already witnessed, yes it does. -- Best regards, Łukasz Langa > On Sep 29, 2018, at 02:21, Barry Warsaw wrote: > >> On Sep 28, 2018, at 15:03, Victor Stinner wrote: >> >> It seems like anyone can subscribe. Is the Committer group reserved to >> core developers? If yes, how do you know

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 28, 2018, at 15:03, Victor Stinner wrote: > It seems like anyone can subscribe. Is the Committer group reserved to > core developers? If yes, how do you know which accounts are linked to > core developers? You must be approved to join python-committers, but its archive is public for anyo

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 28, 2018, at 17:45, Łukasz Langa wrote: > Do you use NNTP? Like with IRC, you won't find the next generation of core > developers on it. And no, there is no support for it in Discourse. > > We could probably figure something out with Gmane if there's interest. Yes, I use NNTP to read ma

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Łukasz Langa
> On 28 Sep 2018, at 23:04, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > > Does it support NNTP? Do you use NNTP? Like with IRC, you won't find the next generation of core developers on it. And no, there is no support for it in Discourse. We could probably figure something out with Gmane if there's interest. -

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Łukasz Langa
> On 28 Sep 2018, at 23:55, Chris Jerdonek wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Łukasz Langa > wrote: > There is a user trust system where proven community members get more power in > time, for example to fix typos and move topics to a better category. > > Will

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Łukasz Langa wrote: > There is a user trust system where proven community members get more power > in time, for example to fix typos and move topics to a better category. > Will committers start out as "proven," or will we need to "re-prove" ourselves to gain add

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Berker Peksağ
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 1:03 AM Victor Stinner wrote: > Oh, I just saw that Berker sent a message: > "Membership Request for @committers" > https://discuss.python.org/t/membership-request-for-committers/27/2 > > I don't see this message in any category. Is it a private message? If I understood it

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Łukasz Langa
> On 28 Sep 2018, at 23:03, Victor Stinner wrote: > > Le ven. 28 sept. 2018 à 23:46, Łukasz Langa a écrit : >> - go to https://discuss.python.org/ and create your account there; > > It seems like anyone can subscribe. Yes. > Is the Committer group reserved to core developers? Yes, so far w

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
29.09.18 00:45, Łukasz Langa пише: Hello committers, since this got pretty long, here's the tl;dr: - we're at the point where it is hard to make mailing lists work for us; - we're switching to Discourse; it's better in many ways; - go to https://discuss.python.org/ and create your account there;

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Victor Stinner
Le ven. 28 sept. 2018 à 23:46, Łukasz Langa a écrit : > - go to https://discuss.python.org/ and create your account there; It seems like anyone can subscribe. Is the Committer group reserved to core developers? If yes, how do you know which accounts are linked to core developers? Oh, I just saw

[python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-28 Thread Łukasz Langa
Hello committers, since this got pretty long, here's the tl;dr: - we're at the point where it is hard to make mailing lists work for us; - we're switching to Discourse; it's better in many ways; - go to https://discuss.python.org/ and create your account there; - ple

Re: [python-committers] Python 4.0 or Python 3.10?

2018-09-28 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 20:27, Petr Viktorin wrote: > I'd much, much rather explain that `sys.version[2]` is not correct, and > solve the "python310" < "python39" problem. One of the perks of the way PEP 425 deals with this [1] is that ASCII underscores sort higher than ASCII digits, so: >>>

Re: [python-committers] Python 4.0 or Python 3.10?

2018-09-28 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 07:09, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 2:38 PM Serhiy Storchaka wrote: >> And changing the major version number itself is significant breaking >> change. From the name of the executable (python3 vs python4) hardcoded >> in Python and shell scripts to a number

Re: [python-committers] [PEP 8013] The External Council Governance Model

2018-09-28 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 01:25, Steve Dower wrote: > > Here is the text of PEP 8013 for discussion and improvement (in > isolation from the other proposals, of course -- we're not ready for the > shoot-out yet.) > > I'm keen to see the model be considered, but I don't feel the need to > tightly cont