[python-committers] Re: Python 3.11.0a4 is blocked

2022-01-05 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 7:04 AM Petr Viktorin wrote: > IMO, there should be a PEP for wide-reaching changes like bpo-40521, and > the PEP should be actually *approved* before such changes are made. FWIW, I plan on posting a PEP by the end of the week regarding per-interpreter GIL and the related w

[python-committers] Re: Language Summit

2020-04-16 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:38 PM Eric V. Smith wrote: > Here are the slides from my talk: > https://github.com/ericvsmith/f-strings-by-default/raw/master/F-strings%20everywhere!.pdf Here are slides for my lightning talk ("A Retrospective on My “Multi-core Python” Project"): https://docs.google.c

[python-committers] Concerns about how we vote on new core developers

2019-09-16 Thread Eric Snow
I have a growing concern I have about the impact of our current promotion process on aspiring core developers. I've opened a discussion thread about: https://discuss.python.org/t/concerns-about-how-we-vote-on-new-core-developers/2351 -eric ___ python-c

[python-committers] Re: RSVP: CPython core dev sprint

2019-06-25 Thread Eric Snow
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 12:05 PM Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote: > After we have received all responses, Ewa will reach out to you individually > with additional information for booking rooms and getting travel reimbursed > if you requested it. What nights are accommodated for the hotel room? I'd

Re: [python-committers] Timeline to vote for a governance PEP

2018-11-02 Thread Eric Snow
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018, 21:44 Victor Stinner Le sam. 3 nov. 2018 à 04:40, Eric Snow a > écrit : > > Would it help if we only published who voted, and kept their votes > private? Publishing the actual votes probably doesn't make a big > difference here, relative to the broader P

Re: [python-committers] Timeline to vote for a governance PEP

2018-11-02 Thread Eric Snow
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018, 21:24 Tim Peters Nevertheless, I probably won't vote - I object to public ballots on > principle. That's been raised by others, so I won't repeat the > arguments, and I appear to be very much in a minority here. > Would it help if we only published who voted, and kept their

Re: [python-committers] python-committers is dead, long live discuss.python.org

2018-09-29 Thread Eric Snow
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 09:31 Yury Selivanov wrote: > Given all the above, Łukasz *volunteered* his own time to help setup > Discourse and help everyone to migrate to it so that we can all try > it. Yes. Thank-you Łukasz! :) When he announced that we want to try Discourse at the sprints, > out

Re: [python-committers] Python 4.0 or Python 3.10?

2018-09-25 Thread Eric Snow
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:30 PM Yury Selivanov wrote: > What's the current plan for what version of Python we release after 3.9? One idea I've heard is to switch to calendar versioning after 3.9. So we'd start with something like "2021" (year) or "2021.06" (year + month). sys.version_info would

Re: [python-committers] New core developers: Lisa Roach and Emily Morehouse-Valcarcel

2018-09-14 Thread Eric Snow
iously > attended two Language Summits and three core development sprints at PyCon. > Since July, Emily has worked with Guido's guidance to implement PEP 572, > Assignment Expressions. She has also worked with Eric Snow to dive into > CPython's runtime as well as subinterpreters.

Re: [python-committers] List of all core developers

2018-08-01 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 3:44 PM M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 01.08.2018 23:28, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > > See also an open issue to revamp the Developer log: > > https://github.com/python/devguide/issues/390 > > > > Someone has also said that they're working on tracking down the dormant > > core devs,

Re: [python-committers] An alternative governance model

2018-07-18 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:44 AM Steve Dower wrote: > Your contributions to this part of the discussion are also very useful - > we need to know what concerns people have, and often those concerns may > not have occurred to those of us who approach it with a more idealistic > idea of how everythin

Re: [python-committers] An alternative governance model

2018-07-18 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:36 AM Łukasz Langa wrote: > A simple majority vote is wildly insufficient for this case. Python is a > large project with many contributors and alienating maybe tens of them is not > acceptable, especially if we are talking about a "for life" choice. +1 -eric ___

Re: [python-committers] An alternative governance model

2018-07-18 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 2:43 AM Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le 18/07/2018 à 04:02, Barry Warsaw a écrit : > > A singular BDFL provides clear leadership. With a council of elders, it > > will be more difficult to communicate both to the Python community, and to > > the larger, more peripheral user b

Re: [python-committers] An alternative governance model

2018-07-18 Thread Eric Snow
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:15 PM Eric V. Smith wrote: > On 7/17/2018 10:02 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > I’d like to propose an alternative model, and with it a succession plan, > > that IMHO hasn’t gotten enough discussion. It’s fairly radical in that it > > proposes to not actually change that m

Re: [python-committers] Transfer of power

2018-07-12 Thread Eric Snow
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:29 PM Brett Cannon wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 at 10:42 Eric Snow wrote: >> In the short term we could appoint a *temporary* triumvirate to fill >> in as BDFL (with the intent to re-assess the situation in September if >> we haven't resolved

Re: [python-committers] Transfer of power

2018-07-12 Thread Eric Snow
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 11:55 AM Brett Cannon wrote: > One other idea if we go the BDFL or triumvirate route is we could ask Guido > to choose (if he's willing). I think Guido's key point is he wants us to > choose how we want to keep this team going, but that may not preclude us to > essential

Re: [python-committers] Transfer of power

2018-07-12 Thread Eric Snow
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:55 AM Yury Selivanov wrote: > > Thank you, Guido. This is a sad day for me personally; I really hoped > you'd lead Python for a few more years. On the other hand, Python is > in good hands, you've built a large enough and diverse community > around it! +1 Thank you f

[python-committers] How to Increase Triage and Code Review Activity? (was: Vote to promote Pablo Salingo Salgado as core developer)

2018-06-15 Thread Eric Snow
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:06 PM Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 4:40 AM, Berker Peksağ > wrote: > > This isn't about my or someone else's high standards. We keep saying > > we need more triagers and reviewers, and we keep promoting people who > > didn't do any issue triaging and

Re: [python-committers] Vote to promote Pablo Salingo Salgado as core developer

2018-06-14 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:16 AM Victor Stinner wrote: > I propose to promote Pablo Salingo Salgado as a core developer and so > open a vote during one week. If there is no strong opposition, I will > promote him but also continue to mentor him for a least one month. > > [snip] > > I am mentoring

Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Eric Snow
+1 -eric On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: > > > Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python, writing > both the PEP and the implementation. This shipped in Python 3.3 and was > listed as one of the top features of that release as according to the >

[python-committers] My opinion about "binding expressions" (was Poll: Do you like the PEP 572 Assignment Expressions?)

2018-05-04 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:49 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > I propose a poll because I'm unable to track the opinion of each core > dev, too many emails have been sent to python-dev, and maybe some > people changed their mind during the long discussion (which started in > February) :-) Victor said "P

Re: [python-committers] Poll: Do you like the PEP 572 Assignment Expressions?

2018-05-04 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:49 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > I propose a poll because I'm unable to track the opinion of each core > dev, too many emails have been sent to python-dev, and maybe some > people changed their mind during the long discussion (which started in > February) :-) FWIW, contrary

Re: [python-committers] Poll: Do you like the PEP 572 Assignment Expressions?

2018-05-02 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:49 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > The poll is on the *current* PEP. I propose 4 choices: > > * +1: you like the PEP > * -1: you dislike the PEP > * 0: you are not sure if you like it or not, or you have no opinon > * don't reply to this poll :-) > > Just reply to this email w

Re: [python-committers] Welcoming Petr Viktorin as our newest core developer :)

2018-04-23 Thread Eric Snow
Welcome, Petr! -eric On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 08:39 Nick Coghlan wrote: > Hi folks, > > With my recent proposal to accept Petr Viktorin as a specialist core > developer focusing on extension module imports receiving several +1's > and no concerns being raised, I'm happy to report that Brett has no

Re: [python-committers] Proposing Petr Viktorin as a specialist core developer

2018-04-13 Thread Eric Snow
+1 -eric On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 4:56 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > > >> On Apr 13, 2018, at 5:13 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> >> I'd like to propose Petr Viktorin as a specialist core developer, >> focusing on extension module imports. > > +1 This is an area that could use more attention from s

Re: [python-committers] [core-workflow] Adding "Co-authored-by" in commit message.

2018-01-29 Thread Eric Snow
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > I suggest we start adding this where it makes sense, to give proper credit > to PR authors. +1 Thanks for noticing this. I've bumped into this several times and look forward to (more clearly) giving credit where credit is due. -eric ___

Re: [python-committers] Welcome the 3.8 and 3.9 Release Manager - Łukasz Langa!

2018-01-27 Thread Eric Snow
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > please welcome your next release manager… > > Łukasz Langa! Congrats, Łukasz! (or condolences? ) -eric ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailm

Re: [python-committers] Cheryl Sabella was promoted to get bug triage permission

2017-12-06 Thread Eric Snow
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > To recognize the good contributions of Cheryl Sabella, I gave her the > bug triage permission on bugs.python.org. (In practice, Ezio gave her > the permission.) > > In the past, such "promotion" wasn't always advertized on > python-committer

Re: [python-committers] Proposing Carol Willing to become a core developer

2017-05-25 Thread Eric Snow
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Welcome Carol! A giant +1 from me! And a huge thank-you for how much you've already been doing! You are an excellent example of what makes this community great. -eric ___ python-committers mail

Re: [python-committers] Proposing Carol Willing to become a core developer

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Snow
+1 On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > While at the PyCon US sprints the idea came up of offering Carol Willing > developer privileges. Everyone at the table -- about 6 of us -- liked the > idea and Carol also said she would happy to become a core dev, so I'm > officially putt

Re: [python-committers] New Roundup notifications on Git commits?

2017-02-13 Thread Eric Snow
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > if the webhook event for your merge > got rejected due to the bad cert then it would have been dropped. A repo admin should be able to manually request that a failed webhook be retried. The webhook's page on GH has a list of all associated

Re: [python-committers] REMINDER: GitHub migration is scheduled for today

2017-02-10 Thread Eric Snow
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Tim Golden wrote: > Good luck, and thanks to you and the team for all the hard work A big +1! -eric ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committ

Re: [python-committers] Welcoming Davin Potts to the Python development team

2016-03-07 Thread Eric Snow
On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > I just finished doing what was necessary to make Davin a core dev, so let's > welcome our first new core dev of 2016! You've certainly earned this, Davin. Well done and thanks for sticking with it. -eric _

Re: [python-committers] Making the PSF CoC apply to core developers

2016-03-04 Thread Eric Snow
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > When I thought about this the other week after a > cranky email to python-dev appeared I realized that the CoC isn't exactly > advertised so that people know they shouldn't act mean here like they might > in other corners of the internet where

Re: [python-committers] Redoing the C API? (was: Call For Participants For The 2016 Python Language Summit)

2016-03-03 Thread Eric Snow
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > But I do think the spirit of Victor's idea is worth considering. +1 > ...what would we need to do to our C API to make > it so that anyone following a new API wouldn't be broken if we dropped the > GIL? If I recall correctly, this was one k

Re: [python-committers] Call For Participants For The 2016 Python Language Summit

2016-03-02 Thread Eric Snow
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: > It's that time once again: time to start planning for the 2016 Python > Language Summit! This year the summit will be at the Oregon Convention > Center in Portland, Oregon, USA, on May 28th. Thanks for chairing this again! > Sadly, again

Re: [python-committers] "Gratuitous"? incompatibilities in the "fix only" releases

2015-07-29 Thread Eric Snow
On Jul 29, 2015 11:08 AM, "Robert Collins" wrote: > > On 30 July 2015 at 04:50, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > The more recent Python 2.7 bugfix releases have > > specific exemptions from the backwards compatibility requirements for > > security fixes -- because their lifespan will still be many yea

Re: [python-committers] what's going on with Misc/NEWS?

2013-05-24 Thread Eric Snow
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > and it recognizes that users don't really need to look across merge > boundaries. This is tricky though for any patch that is forward-ported to a release branch (a la 3.2->3.3). How can you tell from MISC/News in which release (e.g. 3.3

Re: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Roger Serwy for IDLE

2013-03-21 Thread Eric Snow
Welcome! -eric On Mar 21, 2013 9:39 PM, "serwy" wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > My name is Roger Serwy and I would like to introduce myself. I am a > graduate student at the University of Illinois in electrical and computer > engineering. Python has been a primary language for my research in signal >

Re: [python-committers] PyCon US 2013 attendees

2013-02-25 Thread Eric Snow
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > I'll be there the whole time (summit through the end of the sprints). Same here. -eric ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py