On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 09:31 Yury Selivanov <yselivanov...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Given all the above, Łukasz *volunteered* his own time to help setup
> Discourse and help everyone to migrate to it so that we can all try
> it.


Yes.  Thank-you Łukasz! :)

When he announced that we want to try Discourse at the sprints,
> out of all people there I remember only Barry asking questions about
> email integration.  Everybody else including Guido, Brett, Raymond,
> Victor, Mariatta, and many others were OK to try Discourse.


I expressed reservations as well, while also recognizing the benefits.  I
also didn't consider the impact on governance discussions, nor did I think
there's be an abrupt switch nor so soon.  FWIW, I don't recall being more
than lukewarm on the idea (for the sake of the benefits), but didn't
express strong objections because I figured that, for me personally, it
would mostly be a matter of adjusting (which for me has a real cost in time
and mental energy).

As I can
> see, Łukasz himself doesn't have any interests in this migration
> besides trying to make our communication more enjoyable and welcoming.
>
> Lastly, I understand everybody who likes e-mail and their e-mail
> clients.  I'm such a person myself.  Learning a completely new tool
> and using browser to access it isn't easy for me either.  But I'm
> willing to try to sacrifice some of my convenience in order to see if
> the new medium can enable us to have more polite discussions


+1

The catch is that it's an imposition on folks that don't feel exactly the
same way.

and if
> core developers who don't want to engage now become comfortable to
> join us again.
>

That's definitely worth aiming for.  However, there are real limits to how
much technology can help what is essentially a people/social problem. :/

-eric

>
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