[python-committers] Threadjack: python-dev input to site redesign [sorry ...]

2012-05-29 Thread Steve Holden
> python-committers mailing list > python-committers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ C

Re: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban

2012-05-29 Thread Steve Holden
who wrote most of it. He's going to make it! regards Steve PS: Will be leaving committers as soon as I find out how, but not for any other reason than bandwisth. I hope you all know where to find me if you need me. Devs-keep-devving. As you were. -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holde

Re: [python-committers] Contrib forms

2012-04-26 Thread Steve Holden
. For these we can either try to have > Pat confirm the status against the paper files or, what is probably > simpler, just have them send in a new form (which is less of a burden > now that it can be done by email). > ___ > python-committers mailing list > pytho

Re: [python-committers] fyi - openssl vulnerability - likely in our windows builds

2012-04-23 Thread Steve Holden
are unlikely to have to scramble to remove a dangerous vulnerability. Do we need to address this publicly? If nobody is asking any questions then remaining silent and implementing Martin's suggestion seems like the best option. S -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Board] contrib agreement

2011-06-29 Thread Steve Holden
You meant "grubert", of course. It amuses my non-computer friends that people often greet me as "holdenweb" at PyCon and similar places. regards Steve On Jun 29, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Pat Campbell wrote: > Thanks for the clarification, Engelbert. -- Steve Hol

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Board] contrib agreement

2011-06-29 Thread Steve Holden
>> Nick. >>> >>> -- >>> Nick Coghlan | ncogh...@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia >> >> >> >> -- >> Pat Campbell >> PSF Administrator/Secretary >> pat...@python.org >> > > > > -- > http://darefoot.blogspot.com >

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Board] contrib agreement

2011-06-29 Thread Steve Holden
.@python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Pat Campbell >>> PSF Administrator/Secretary >>> pat...@python.org >> >> >> >> -- >> Pat Campbell >> PSF Admin

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Board] contrib agreement

2011-06-29 Thread Steve Holden
;>> >>> -- >>> Pat Campbell >>> PSF Administrator/Secretary >>> pat...@python.org >> >> >> >> -- >> Pat Campbell >> PSF Administrator/Secretary >> pat...@python.org >> >> ___ >> python-committers mailing list >> python-committers@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers >> >> > ___ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers

Re: [python-committers] state of the 3.2 branch

2011-06-08 Thread Steve Holden
> > See af715726d911 It looks like Georg has been merging the 3.2.1 > release branch to the 3.2 branch and people are blindly adding to the > news section. That stuff should probably just be relocated. > > > -- > Regards, > Benjamin > __________

Re: [python-committers] Python 2.6.7rc1

2011-05-06 Thread Steve Holden
s basically a self-imposed > deadline. > > Cheers, > -Barry > > ___ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers -- Steve Holden st...@holdenwe

Re: [python-committers] History lost in svn to hg conversion

2011-04-25 Thread Steve Holden
On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > I propose that the redirector (hg.../lookup) redirects to the subversion > viewer if it can't find a matching hg revision. That sounds like an extremely user-friendly solution. regards Steve -- Steve Holden st...@ho

Re: [python-committers] History lost in svn to hg conversion

2011-04-25 Thread Steve Holden
On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le lundi 25 avril 2011 à 14:29 -0400, Steve Holden a écrit : >> >> Great advice for the future, Antoine. Now can you help with the Hg >> issue? > > As far as I understand it, this is not so much an hg issue than a

Re: [python-committers] History lost in svn to hg conversion

2011-04-25 Thread Steve Holden
. Having to dig in VCS logs, or read many tracker > entries, is IMO too tedious. > Great advice for the future, Antoine. Now can you help with the Hg issue? I had understood that *all* history was going to be retained. Did I misremember or was I incorrectly advised? regards Steve --

Re: [python-committers] Committer rights for Nadeem Vawda

2011-04-03 Thread Steve Holden
ain a signed contributor agreement from Nadeem, but it's beginning to sound like that's the next step. regards Steve -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers

Re: [python-committers] There are two versions of the Contributor Agreement

2011-03-23 Thread Steve Holden
We should ask the pydotorg list to fix this. Should we at the same time requet the assition of a field for the committer's user name? regards Steve On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > > > On 3/23/2011 9:31 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: >> http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-

Re: [python-committers] Recording committer status in the bug tracker

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Holden
Yes, I can. Thanks, Pat regards Steve On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Pat Campbell wrote: > Hi Steve: > > Are you able to read the attached spreadsheet? > Thanks, > Pat > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Steve Holden wrote: > Pat: > > It appears that

Re: [python-committers] Recording committer status in the bug tracker

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Holden
Pat: It appears that our contributor agreement records are not complete. Do you have a list of people for whom we hold a signed agreement, please? regards Steve On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Mar 16, 2011, at 06:14 AM, Steve Holden wrote: > >> Time

Re: [python-committers] Recording committer status in the bug tracker

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Holden
On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > >> I'm not showing as a committer (also not showing as CLA received, but I >> suppose that's different). > > I couldn't find you at first since you didn't put your last name into the > tracker. I have fixed that as well now. > > As for th

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Members] [Fwd: Re: Push rights for Ross Lagerwall]

2011-03-10 Thread Steve Holden
On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 à 11:25 -0500, "Martin v. Löwis" a écrit : So the next logical step would be to ask him. If Ross said that he did send the form, that would be good enough for me to proceed. That would also be a *solution*.

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Members] [Fwd: Re: Push rights for Ross Lagerwall]

2011-03-09 Thread Steve Holden
On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > > We don't need an explanation, we need a *solution*. > > Please speak for yourself only. Is it just you being upset to > have to use paper, or is Ross Lagerwall actively refusing to > put his signature on a piece of paper? > Because Antoine

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Members] [Fwd: Re: Push rights for Ross Lagerwall]

2011-03-09 Thread Steve Holden
On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:18 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > contributor-agreem...@python.org could be aliased to > p...@python.org, p...@python.org, or even better, a > PSF committee taking care of this business. Lest this strike fear into the hearts of members I would point out that it would operate mu

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Members] [Fwd: Re: Push rights for Ross Lagerwall]

2011-03-09 Thread Steve Holden
On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > I don't care and don't want to argue (I insist about this) about > religions, be it christianism or intellectual property. > If you think a legal rule is needed, please just *ensure it doesn't get > in the way*. That's your job as a self-proclaim

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Members] [Fwd: Re: Push rights for Ross Lagerwall]

2011-03-09 Thread Steve Holden
> Otherwise, the PSF does not have the right to redistribute that >> code under the PSF license. >> >> http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html#sign-a-contributor-agreement >> >>> Message transféré >>> De: Pat Campbell >>>

Re: [python-committers] Push rights for Ross Lagerwall

2011-03-08 Thread Steve Holden
Pat should know if we have received one. regards Steve On Mar 8, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le mardi 08 mars 2011 à 00:57 -0800, Raymond Hettinger a écrit : > >> >> Do we have a signed contributor agreement? > > I've told Ross it would be nice to send one if he hadn't already

Re: [python-committers] Use hg commit --user?

2011-03-06 Thread Steve Holden
On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >>> Le dimanche 06 mars 2011 à 13:19 -0500, Steve Holden a écrit : >>>> In short, if someone isn't able to sign a contributor agreement we >>>> should ask ourselves whether it's really appropriat

Re: [python-committers] Use hg commit --user?

2011-03-06 Thread Steve Holden
People who have not signed a contributor agreement should not be listed as code authors: this leads to non-auditable contributions and a lack of clarity as to intellectual property ownership that can have negative consequences. If you want to make someone an author, confirm they are contributors

Re: [python-committers] SVN repository is now read-only

2011-03-04 Thread Steve Holden
On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: > >> Antoine and me are starting the conversion now (it takes quite >> a while to get the SVN repo and convert it, so we're doing it >> overnight). > > > Thanks for stepping up and getting

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Members] Code Simplicity » Open Source Community, Simplified

2011-02-04 Thread Steve Holden
On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >> Look at issue 11089. It is applied in 2.7 and 3.1, but it can't be >> applied to 3.2 because we are in RC state now. Now, somebody *MUST* >> remember to apply this patch when the 3.2 branch in open again. That is >> a waste of mental energy

Re: [python-committers] Create a Mercurial repository with a branch per issue

2011-02-04 Thread Steve Holden
On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > I think extra clones per issue could work for some larger issues that > require lots of work, but I don't think the > every-small-feature-on-a-branch model (as practiced in Twisted, IIRC) > is particularly helpful. On the other hand, I do think

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Members] Code Simplicity » Open Source Community, Simplified

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Holden
On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> On Feb 03, 2011, at 08:54 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> >>> I suspect this problem with the preferred DVCS workflow is going to >>> cut fairly heavily into the number of bug fixes applied to th

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Members] Code Simplicity » Open Source Community, Simplified

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Holden
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le mercredi 02 février 2011 à 19:39 +0100, Jesus Cea a écrit : >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/02/11 19:28, Antoine Pitrou wrote: The merge here is mostly automatic. In fact, if the RM doesn't change hi

[python-committers] Code Simplicity » Open Source Community, Simplified

2011-02-02 Thread Steve Holden
I imagine many of you will have seen this, but it's worth over-posting to make sure everyone gets to see it who is interested. http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/open-source-community-simplified/ regards Steve ___ python-committers mailing list python

Re: [python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread Steve Holden
On Jan 29, 2011, at 12:04 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > If the module weren't already broken for most real-world purposes I'd > no question want to wait. As it is I'm on the fence. Me too, but I did want to acknowledge the correctness of Antoine's argument. Yes, I reminded people (using multipr

Re: [python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread Steve Holden
Regards > > Antoine. > > > Le vendredi 28 janvier 2011 à 14:51 -0800, Raymond Hettinger a écrit : >> On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Steve Holden wrote: >> >>> As teh reporter of that bug I should like to say in Victor's, Antoine's and >>> David&#

Re: [python-committers] rc2 freeze due in two days

2011-01-28 Thread Steve Holden
As teh reporter of that bug I should like to say in Victor's, Antoine's and David's support that the module is so broken without this patch that the module should not really have been included in a production release. Even if the current patch is broken, I believe the results of using that code

Re: [python-committers] anyone still have access to the coverity scan results?

2011-01-19 Thread Steve Holden
Could we consider offering a complimentary PyCon registration to a member of the Coverity team as an encouragement to have someone around during the sprints? I am sure that much useful informal education would take place, benefiting many sprints, if we enable it and just let things happen. Or w

Re: [python-committers] Blocking feature backports

2010-12-05 Thread Steve Holden
ase. Doing so under the time pressure of a release > candidate is not something I look forward to. > +1 Let's not *ask* for trouble. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 PyCon 2011 Atlanta March 9-17 http://us.pycon.org/ See Python V

Re: [python-committers] Providing .tgz sources

2010-12-05 Thread Steve Holden
making it the first download option to make sure >>> people notice it. I'd also vote for listing the file size on the >>> download page, but that's just another step for release managers that >>> I don't want to burden them with. >> >> You would also

Re: [python-committers] trunk is open

2010-11-18 Thread Steve Holden
eant "to the py3k branch." > ___ Any why wouldn't the py3k branch now be trunk? regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 PyCon 2011 Atlanta March 9-17 http://us.pycon.org/ See Python Video! http://python.mirocommunity.org/ Holden Web LL

Re: [python-committers] Eric Araujo (merwok) as Distutils commiter

2010-08-03 Thread Steve Holden
rned the hard way that it simply isn't wise to juxtapose the letters "P", "S" and "U" in any email handled by the python.org infrastructure. I guess this means we will have to rely on Eric for distutils maintenance right away. there-*is*-no-psu-ly y'rs - ste

Re: [python-committers] Untabifying the C codebase

2010-05-11 Thread Steve Holden
what a great blog :). > > While studying this history, I ran into > > http://www.rmi.net/~lutz/errata-book-fixes.html > > Mark Lutz calls it *both* Great and Grand renaming on a single page :-) > Exceptionally pythonic. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266

Re: [python-committers] Untabifying the C codebase

2010-05-11 Thread Steve Holden
Untabification; and children heard stories of what programmers they had been. fanciful-ly y'rs - steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 See Python Video! http://python.mirocommunity.org/ Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ UPCOMING EVEN

Re: [python-committers] branches and merging

2010-03-02 Thread Steve Holden
, but I'm not sure he's available either. I could ask > around, though, if the PSF thinks spending money on this is > worthwhile. > The PSF would look to the developer community for advice on this issue, but if it's holding the DVCS switch up I can't think of many objections

Re: [python-committers] branches and merging

2010-03-02 Thread Steve Holden
Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:29:13 -0500, > Steve Holden a écrit : >> IMHO we got in this mess because we didn't have sufficient involvement >> from Windows platform users during the DVCS evaluation - people saw >> that there was some accommodati

Re: [python-committers] branches and merging

2010-03-02 Thread Steve Holden
eal, and it needs some effort. Doesn't *anyone* have time? regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 PyCon is coming! Atlanta, Feb 2010 http://us.pycon.org/ Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ UPCOMING EVENTS:http://holdenweb.ev

Re: [python-committers] Fwd: [Python-checkins] r75184 - python/tags/r263

2009-10-01 Thread Steve Holden
_ >> Python-checkins mailing list >> python-check...@python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-checkins > > > > > _______ > python-co

Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to"release26-maint"?

2009-07-02 Thread Steve Holden
s ceased to be. It is no more. It has joined the choir invisible. It is an ex-release. """ regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ Watch PyCon on video now! http://pycon.blip.tv/ ___

Re: [python-committers] Why r69846 is not merged to "release26-maint"?

2009-07-02 Thread Steve Holden
vered Fawlty Towers I think we might need to > have required British humour training for all core committers. > It was kind of thrust in our faces at the EuroPython meeting this week. At dinner the table I was sitting on was entitled "Ministry of Silly Walks". If ever there's a

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Board] I've got a surprise for you!

2009-01-27 Thread Steve Holden
vailable to > GSoC and GHOP students, and I will be involving MSU undergrads in their > care and maintenance. I am also working to develop a more flexible and > simple set of continuous build software; more on that at PyCon. > I'm looking forward to that. regards Steve -- St

Re: [python-committers] [PSF-Board] I've got a surprise for you!

2009-01-27 Thread Steve Holden
t; anything. Any chance of adding a XServe or something? > Time we started making friends at Apple ... regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ ___ pytho

Re: [python-committers] I've got a surprise for you!

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Holden
ctions. A fantastic culmination to almost a year of hard work. Glad we don't have to keep it secret any more! Thanks very much. I can't wait to start logging in ... regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Chairman, Python Software Foundation www.python.

Re: [python-committers] Luke Kenneth

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Holden
the (to me) bizarre notion that supporting a non-free > platform with free tools is somehow inherently better than using the > native non-free tools appropriate to the platform... > At least it won't make you go blind ... -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 49

Re: [python-committers] Luke Kenneth

2009-01-25 Thread Steve Holden
Steve Holden wrote: > Guido van Rossum wrote: >> Is anyone else frustrated by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton's rants in >> python-dev? It seems he is living on another planet to me. Or am I >> seeing it all wrong? >> > He seems rather misguided, and is being

Re: [python-committers] Luke Kenneth

2009-01-25 Thread Steve Holden
of his posts also appear on comp.lang.python (where they appear to be mostly ignored). He's aiming at a worthy goal, but appears to be climbing up the learning curve rather tediously. regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC ht

Re: [python-committers] 3.0 branch is unfrozen

2008-11-07 Thread Steve Holden
Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:53 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > >> Barry Warsaw wrote: >>> The release is done, so the branch is thawed. Now to make the >>> announcement... >>> >>> -Barry >>> >> Barry: > >> Please

Re: [python-committers] 3.0 branch is unfrozen

2008-11-06 Thread Steve Holden
wnload the latest version available" contingent. I know the testing will be good for 3.0, but we should remind people this is still early days for 3.0. Which reminds me, now 3.0 is final does this mean the Grand Library Reorganization has to wait until 4.0? regards Steve -- Steve Holden

Re: [python-committers] ubuntu release plan

2008-08-14 Thread Steve Holden
/mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers . -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 H