Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 14, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: That seems to argue for doing rc2 on Sunday the 18th. If I tag the release some time Saturday, you could have the binaries by Sunday right? Correct. Cool. I've updated the Python Release Schedule calendar to reflect the new dates. -Ba

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> That seems to argue for doing rc2 on Sunday the 18th. If I tag the > release some time Saturday, you could have the binaries by Sunday > right? Correct. Regards, Martin ___ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.pyt

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:15 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: So, we can either make Sunday's release rc2 and do the final release one week later, or I can try to get an rc2 out in the next day or two, with a final release mid-next week. Thoughts? I won't be able to produce Windows binaries until

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Anthony Baxter
I strongly urge another release candidate. But then, I am not doing the work, so take that advice for what it is... On Oct 14, 2009 10:18 AM, "Barry Warsaw" wrote: On Oct 13, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> I always thought that the idea of a release ... No, but let's do one anyway!

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> So, we can either make Sunday's release rc2 and do the final release one > week later, or I can try to get an rc2 out in the next day or two, with > a final release mid-next week. > > Thoughts? I won't be able to produce Windows binaries until Saturday. Now sure how that would fit into the "wit

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 13, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: I always thought that the idea of a release candidate was that if there were any fixes _at all_ that there would be a new rc. Only when no bugs needing fixed are found does the rc turn into the actual release. This was also my understand

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:52 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: >> At 08:27 AM 10/13/2009 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: >>> >>> Are we on track to release 2.6.4 final this Sunday or do we need >>> another rc? >>> >>> Yesterday, Tarek committed another setuptool

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I always thought that the idea of a release candidate was that if there > were any fixes _at all_ that there would be a new rc. Only when no > bugs needing fixed are found does the rc turn into the actual release. This was also my understanding; that's the point of calling it "candidate". Sinc

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 13, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: Traceback (most recent call last): File "umbrella_rules.py", line 6, in UmbrellaRule() File "unbrella_rules.py", line 4, in UmbrellaRule raise DuplicateRuleName('http://whatplanetisthis.com/2008/02/the-umbrella-rule-and-sharing-rules

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Oct 13, 2009, at 1:41 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > >> I always thought that the idea of a release candidate was that if there >> were any fixes _at all_ that there would be a new rc.  Only when no >> bugs needing fixed are found does the r

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Oct 13, 2009, at 1:07 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> Would it be reasonable to shorten that period, if the fix for the >> mentioned problem gets ready for prime time earlier ? > > I think there are many 2.6.x bugs queued up for after 2.6.4 is > released. I'm not at all op

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 13, 2009, at 1:41 PM, R. David Murray wrote: I always thought that the idea of a release candidate was that if there were any fixes _at all_ that there would be a new rc. Only when no bugs needing fixed are found does the rc turn into the actual release. But I understand that this is a

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 at 12:57, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Tarek Ziad? wrote: I still need to do some more tests, I didn't have time to try the various projects under win32. It's planned to night. The tests are consisting of compiling and insatling a dozain of projects on l

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread skip
>> We don't need to wait too long for 2.6.5 though. A few months would be >> appropriate. MAL> Would it be reasonable to shorten that period, if the fix for the MAL> mentioned problem gets ready for prime time earlier ? I think it would be worthwhile to prioritize all outstanding

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread sstein...@gmail.com
On Oct 13, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: I still need to do some more tests, I didn't have time to try the various projects under win32. It's planned to night. The tests are consisting of compiling and insatling a dozain of projects o

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 13, 2009, at 1:07 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Would it be reasonable to shorten that period, if the fix for the mentioned problem gets ready for prime time earlier ? I think there are many 2.6.x bugs queued up for after 2.6.4 is released. I'm not at all opposed to setting a date approxi

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:01 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> Then I'd suggest to wait another week with 2.6.4 to give you a >> chance to look at the patch. > > That's not a good option, IMO. We have a known broken 2.6.3 out there > and we owe it to our users to correct our mista

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: I still need to do some more tests, I didn't have time to try the various projects under win32. It's planned to night. The tests are consisting of compiling and insatling a dozain of projects on linux and win32 (and bith when possible) Great th

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:01 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Then I'd suggest to wait another week with 2.6.4 to give you a chance to look at the patch. That's not a good option, IMO. We have a known broken 2.6.3 out there and we owe it to our users to correct our mistake and given them the release

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
"Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > >>> As this bug already exists in 2.6.2, I don't think the change is >>> eligible for 2.6.4. >>> >>> In addition, I want to review it, which I won't be able to until >>> Sunday. >> >> Then I'd suggest to wait another week with 2.6.4 to give you a >> chance to look at the

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:30 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: > > One identical to test_build_ext_path_with_os_sep, but that explicitly uses a > '/' (rather than os.sep) will identify the problem I'm referring to, when > run on Windows. > > It's common practice to use /-separated paths in setup scripts, regard

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread P.J. Eby
At 05:16 PM 10/13/2009 +0200, Tarek Ziadé wrote: Yes the doctest was pretty fuzzy about what is an extension name. It's will be improved in 2.7. The current code is doing os.path.join()'s to join the Extension name with the build path, leading to the collateral damage you are mentioning. To fix

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> As this bug already exists in 2.6.2, I don't think the change is >> eligible for 2.6.4. >> >> In addition, I want to review it, which I won't be able to until >> Sunday. > > Then I'd suggest to wait another week with 2.6.4 to give you a > chance to look at the patch. That won't make the chang

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:52 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: > At 08:27 AM 10/13/2009 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> >> Are we on track to release 2.6.4 final this Sunday or do we need >> another rc? >> >> Yesterday, Tarek committed another setuptools related fix and said >> that he was going to run a bunch of

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
"Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > >> It would be nice to get this issue resolved out for 2.6.4: >> >> http://bugs.python.org/issue4120 >> >> The problem is that extensions built with 2.6.x will not work >> when used with a User-only installation of Python on machines that >> don't already have the MS VC9

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread P.J. Eby
At 08:27 AM 10/13/2009 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: Are we on track to release 2.6.4 final this Sunday or do we need another rc? Yesterday, Tarek committed another setuptools related fix and said that he was going to run a bunch of build tests locally. Tarek, how did that go? FWIW, that change

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> It would be nice to get this issue resolved out for 2.6.4: > > http://bugs.python.org/issue4120 > > The problem is that extensions built with 2.6.x will not work > when used with a User-only installation of Python on machines that > don't already have the MS VC90 CRT DLLs installed system-wide

Re: [python-committers] [Python-Dev] On track for Python 2.6.4 final this Sunday?

2009-10-13 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Barry Warsaw wrote: > Are we on track to release 2.6.4 final this Sunday or do we need another > rc? > > Yesterday, Tarek committed another setuptools related fix and said that > he was going to run a bunch of build tests locally. Tarek, how did that > go? > > Please note that issue 7064 is stil