At 01:33 PM 4/23/2006 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Phillip J. Eby wrote:
At 09:25 AM 4/22/2006 -0700, Aahz wrote:
EXPRESSION returns a value that the with statement uses to create a
context (a special kind of namespace). The context is used to
execute the BLOCK. The block might end
Kirat Singh wrote:
Hi, this is my first python dev post, so please forgive me if this topic
has already been discussed.
To my knowledge, this hasn't been discussed before.
It seemed to me that removing me_hash from a dict entry would save 2/3
of the space used by dictionaries and also
Phillip J. Eby wrote:
Read the first sentence again:
EXPRESSION returns a value that the with statement uses to *create* a
context (emphasis added).
It doesn't say that the value *is* the context, and if anything, the
second excerpt supports that by implying that the context manager is
Terry Reedy a écrit :
So I propose that the context maker be called just that: 'context maker'.
That should pretty clearly not be the context that manages the block
execution.
+1 for context maker. In fact, after reading the begining of the thread, I came
up with the very same idea.
Terry Reedy wrote:
If you checked it in (after tests pass on your ?mac?, and while being ready
to revert), wouldn't the next buildbot cycle do the testing you need?
Isn't testing on 'other' platforms what buildbot is for?
Only up to a point... In this case, I was after code review as much
On 4/23/06, Phillip J. Eby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 01:19 PM 4/23/2006 +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote:
On Sunday 23 April 2006 11:43, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Maybe we need something that's the equivalent of alien (rpm - dpkg
converter), so that given an egg, one can easily get a native
On 4/23/06, Nick Coghlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- contextlib.contextmanager()
- is actually used to define contexts according to the current docs
- but returns a GeneratorContextManager object
You may just be trying to avoid overcomplicating things by adding too
much detail
Paul Moore wrote:
On 4/23/06, Nick Coghlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those not following along at home, I've now updated PEP 343 to clarify my
originally intended meanings for various terms, and to record the fact that
we
don't currently have a consensus on python-dev that those are the
On Saturday 22 April 2006 15:27, Neal Norwitz wrote:
In case it wasn't clear, the /Wp64 flag is available in icc
(Intel's C compiler).
Is it worth turning this on for the icc ubuntu buildbot? Anyone got
ideas on the best way to do this? Should I just set CFLAGS=-Wp64
before running the
Anthony Baxter wrote:
On Saturday 22 April 2006 15:27, Neal Norwitz wrote:
In case it wasn't clear, the /Wp64 flag is available in icc
(Intel's C compiler).
Is it worth turning this on for the icc ubuntu buildbot? Anyone got
ideas on the best way to do this? Should I just set CFLAGS=-Wp64
Tim Peters wrote:
I've never reported this as a Python bug
If you do, I'll probably add a comment like the above ;-)
because I've considered the antivirus SW likely to be the culprit.
Could be. FWIW, Norton AV was running during the above.
I see a similar phenomenon (sp?) on XP SP2:
Nick Coghlan wrote:
For those not following along at home, I've now updated PEP 343 to clarify my
originally intended meanings for various terms, and to record the fact that
we
don't currently have a consensus on python-dev that those are the right
definitions.
As written up in the
Baptiste Carvello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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+1 for context maker.
[me, Terry]
I would call the decorator @contextmaker since that is what it turns the
decorated function into.
I'm confused here. Do we agree that the object with __enter__ and
__exit__ is a
Just van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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+1 for context maker.
Or maybe context factory?
Yes, I thought of that too. Latin 'facere' == 'to make'. I might even put
a sentence in the doc explaining that a context maker is a context factory,
in the CS sense of
[Martin]
I see a similar phenomenon (sp?)
Yup! The plural is phenomena.
on XP SP2: test_mailbox fails to
me, with permission denied in some (random) test. I believe this
is due to Tortoise SVN: test_mailbox creates a few directories,
then Tortoise detects them (thanks to file change
Tim Peters wrote:
[Andrew MacIntyre]
Hmm... I don't appear to have explained what I meant very well :-|
{...}
This really needs an executable example. Here's my best guess about
what you mean, but I don't see any of what you're describing on WinXP
Pro SP2:
And a pretty good guess it was
I had the possibly stupid idea today of running the stdlib through pylint.
Has anybody written a pylintrc file that attempts to reflect the
recommendations of PEP 8 the extent possible?
Thx,
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[Kirat Singh]
Hi, this is my first python dev post, so please forgive me if this topic has
already been discussed.
It's hard to find one that hasn't -- but it's even harder to find the
old discussions ;-)
It seemed to me that removing me_hash from a dict entry would save 2/3 of
the space
Tim Does the Python source even compile as C++ now? People have been
Tim working toward that, but my last impression was that it's not there
Tim yet.
Yes, not there yet. I can build the base interpreter, but there are lots of
module build problems. I got distracted, but will try
Interesting, thanks for the responses. And yeah I meant 1/3, I always mix up negatives.Agree that as you point out the biggest slowdown will be on classes that define their own __hash__, however since classes use instancedicts and this would reduce the dict size from 96 - 64 bytes, we could blow 4
For a while now, I've noticed test_tcl locking up when trying to refleaktest it. I was able to reproduce it quite simply:import Tkinterimport osif DISPLAY in os.environ: del os.environ
[DISPLAY]tcl = Tkinter.Tcl()try: tcl.loadtk()except Exception, e: print etcl.loadtk()Or, more directly, using
Kirat Singh wrote:
The reason I looked into this to begin with was that my code used up a
bunch of memory which was traceable to lots of little objects with
instance dicts, so it seemed that if instancedicts took less memory I
wouldn't have to go and add __slots__ to a bunch of my classes, or
Aside from the What's New document, this has now been done. My modifications
consisted of terminology changes in the contextlib docs and the language
reference to match the 2.5a1 implementation, a Context Types addition to the
library reference similar to that for Iterator Types, and a very
I just read the manpage for Tk_Init(3) (fc4 package tk-8.4.9-3) and it
does not say that Tk_Init() may only be called once. While this doesn't
mean Python shouldn't work around it, I think the behavior should be
considered a bug in Tk, not _tkinter.
However, on this system, I couldn't recreate
A friend of mine is learning Python, and had a problem with the exit
builtin. I like that in the interpreter it gives useful information, but
he was writing a program in a file and tried exit(0), and was presented
with the non-obvious error:
TypeError: 'str' object is not callable
What about
Paul Moore wrote:
Aside from the What's New document, this has now been done. My modifications
consisted of terminology changes in the contextlib docs and the language
reference to match the 2.5a1 implementation, a Context Types addition to the
library reference similar to that for Iterator
Just van Rossum wrote:
Baptiste Carvello wrote:
Terry Reedy a écrit :
So I propose that the context maker be called just that: 'context
maker'. That should pretty clearly not be the context that manages
the block execution.
+1 for context maker. In fact, after reading the begining of the
Do we want to add a released context manager to the threading module for
2.5? It was mentioned using the name unlocked in PEP 343, but never spelt out:
class released(object):
def __init__(self, lock):
self.lock = lock
def __enter__(self):
self.lock.release()
def
Tim:
[Martin]
on XP SP2: test_mailbox fails to
me, with permission denied in some (random) test. I believe this
is due to Tortoise SVN: test_mailbox creates a few directories,
then Tortoise detects them (thanks to file change notifications)
and tries to walk them, to find out whether
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