Neil Schemenauer wrote:
Sigurd Torkel Meldgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For a student project in a course on virtual machines, we are
evaluating the possibility to experiment with removing the GIL
from CPython
Hi,
It's great to hear of this kind of project. I think what you want
to do
Michael Foord wrote:
Moving more C extensions to an implementation based on ctypes would be
enormously useful for PyPy, IronPython and Jython, but ctypes is not yet
as portable as Python itself which could be an issue (although one worth
resolving).
If I recall correctly, the main blocker to
Paul Moore:
3. There's nothing obvious I can do to move an issue forward. Sure, I
can make a comment, but that's about it. I'd like something that
stood a bit more chance of getting noticed (like a status change, or
maybe a list of people who think this is good to apply, which I can
add
Brett Cannon schrieb:
I just tried to update my 3.0 branch in hg from
http://code.python.org/hg/branches/py3k/ and hg is telling me it's a
404. Anyone else having trouble?
404 here too.
Since http://code.python.org/ serves the loggerhead Bazaar view, I suppose
the problem is that the
Georg Brandl wrote:
Brett Cannon schrieb:
I just tried to update my 3.0 branch in hg from
http://code.python.org/hg/branches/py3k/ and hg is telling me it's a
404. Anyone else having trouble?
404 here too.
Since http://code.python.org/ serves the loggerhead Bazaar view, I suppose
the problem
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Nick Coghlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neil Schemenauer wrote:
Sigurd Torkel Meldgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For a student project in a course on virtual machines, we are
evaluating the possibility to experiment with removing the GIL
from CPython
Hi,
Adam Olsen wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Nick Coghlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neil Schemenauer wrote:
Sigurd Torkel Meldgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For a student project in a course on virtual machines, we are
evaluating the possibility to experiment with removing the GIL
from
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Nick Coghlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about having two level of devs ?
+ core developers + standard library developers
[cut]
So I'd suggest thinking about developer responsibilities more in terms
of areas of expertise rather than levels of
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Nick Coghlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam Olsen wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Nick Coghlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neil Schemenauer wrote:
Sigurd Torkel Meldgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For a student project in a course on virtual machines, we
Yet another hint at the evil force-Bazaar-upon-them conspiracy wink.
I'm not so sure Bazaar isn't it's own victim :)
I have now restored the original URL structure, and moved the loggerhead
installation to
http://code.python.org/loggerhead/
Regards,
Martin
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On Oct 31, 2008, at 08:44 AM, Georg Brandl wrote:
Brett Cannon schrieb:
I just tried to update my 3.0 branch in hg from
http://code.python.org/hg/branches/py3k/ and hg is telling me it's a
404. Anyone else having trouble?
404 here too.
Since
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On Oct 31, 2008, at 08:58 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
Naw, I think I just f'd up the Apache conf. I'll try to fix that.
And by I'll of course I meant Martin. :)
Thanks Martin!
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Looks like it should be
http://code.python.org/loggerhead/static/images/ico_folder.gif
I did a quick hack for the static files, but many of the links still
don't work. loggerhead has specific support for reverse proxies
(through loggerhead.conf), but I couldn't figure out how to activate
A couple nits. Leaving off the trailing / yields a 404. (No big deal
though). More importantly, there seem to be no images, e.g.:
http://code.python.org/static/images/ico_folder.gif
Looks like it should be
http://code.python.org/loggerhead/static/images/ico_folder.gif
I'll
Martin I have now restored the original URL structure, and moved the
Martin loggerhead installation to
Martin http://code.python.org/loggerhead/
A couple nits. Leaving off the trailing / yields a 404. (No big deal
though). More importantly, there seem to be no images, e.g.:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 07:59:01AM -0400, Calvin Spealman wrote:
Has anyone made the argument for keeping the GIL to discourage
threading?
I haven't, but I would support such argument. In my humble opinion
multithreading is rarely a good answer, and for multicore CPUs it's a wrong
answer.
Alexandre Vassalotti wrote:
But what if PyType_GenericAlloc is used for tp_alloc? As far as I
know, the memory block allocated with PyType_GenericAlloc is zeroed.
Oh, you are right. The generic allocator uses memset to initialize the
block with \0.
Christian
Nick Coghlan wrote:
If I recall correctly, the main blocker to ctypes portability is libffi
portability. So if anyone would like to see ctypes on more platforms,
then that's the limitation they really need to attack.
ctypes is also missing utilities to write code that works on 32 and
64bit
Calvin Spealman wrote:
Has anyone made the argument for keeping the GIL to discourage
threading? I'm only throwing this out there and I'm sure we'd want to
improve things no matter what, but I would like to voice the concern
anyway. We all know there are people who think threading is the answer
Le Friday 31 October 2008 14:13:01 Christian Heimes, vous avez écrit :
ctypes is also missing utilities to write code that works on 32 and
64bit platforms. Without a tool like
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ctypes_configure it's very hard and tedious
to avoid and fix segfaults.
I wrote some
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Michael Foord
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Calvin Spealman wrote:
Has anyone made the argument for keeping the GIL to discourage
threading? I'm only throwing this out there and I'm sure we'd want to
improve things no matter what, but I would like to voice the
Calvin Has anyone made the argument for keeping the GIL to discourage
Calvin threading? I'm only throwing this out there and I'm sure we'd
Calvin want to improve things no matter what, but I would like to voice
Calvin the concern anyway. We all know there are people who think
Victor Stinner schrieb:
Le Friday 31 October 2008 14:13:01 Christian Heimes, vous avez écrit :
ctypes is also missing utilities to write code that works on 32 and
64bit platforms. Without a tool like
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ctypes_configure it's very hard and tedious
to avoid and fix
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Calvin Spealman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone made the argument for keeping the GIL to discourage
threading?
Oooh, you are on to my secret plan! :-)
--
--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
I have a similar list that I have been thinking about proposing. I did
a blog post about it at
http://sayspy.blogspot.com/2008/08/what-are-typical-steps-issue-goes.html
and received positive feedback:
* triage
* verify bug
* test needed
* needs patch
* patch review
* commit review
*
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Has anyone made the argument for keeping the GIL to discourage
threading?
Oooh, you are on to my secret plan! :-)
I completely agree that there are other approaches to parallelism and
concurrency that are much better than threading. However, I don't
think this is a good argument for having
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Brian Granger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone made the argument for keeping the GIL to discourage
threading?
Oooh, you are on to my secret plan! :-)
I completely agree that there are other approaches to parallelism and
concurrency that are much better
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 29 Oct, 09:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will 3.1 and 2.7 also be parallel releases? (I ask, not having read
the 3xxx PEPS at all.)
If yes, why? While I can see a case for 2.6/3.0 being in sync -- new
features in 2.6 ease
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