Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Tarek Ziadé
2010/2/23 Dirkjan Ochtman : > 2010/2/23 Tarek Ziadé : >> Note sure what do you mean by doubts. I have no doubts I want to >> receive those emails to work on this code ;) > > Some of the other committers didn't think they wanted email on > python-checkins from all the projects that will ever be host

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
2010/2/23 Tarek Ziadé : > Note sure what do you mean by doubts. I have no doubts I want to > receive those emails to work on this code ;) Some of the other committers didn't think they wanted email on python-checkins from all the projects that will ever be hosted on hg.python.org, so there should

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Tarek Ziadé
2010/2/23 Dirkjan Ochtman : > 2010/2/23 Tarek Ziadé : >> Why is that ? I do want them as much as someone else would want the >> benchmarks ones I suppose. >> >> The whole subversion repository (including the sandbox) is sending >> mails to python-checkins, so I think we need to have the same policy

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
2010/2/23 Tarek Ziadé : > Why is that ? I do want them as much as someone else would want the > benchmarks ones I suppose. > > The whole subversion repository (including the sandbox) is sending > mails to python-checkins, so I think we need to have the same policy > here if possible, and use for ex

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 00:57, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> Can I use that to filter out distutils2 commits? > > Well, I don't think we'll do commit emails for distutils2 or > unittest2, only for benchmarks (to python-checkins, anyway). I'l

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 01:06, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > I thought we decided not to have a 2to3 repository at all, but let this > live in the Python trunk exclusively. That would be fine with me, I just remembered that Benjamin would like to start using hg sooner and having it as a separate rep

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 00:55, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> Ah, this shouldn't be used at all for anything (except for studying how >> Mercurial works). Along with the cpython repository, it is Dirkjan's >> test conversion. Even if it survived the ultimate migration (which it >> probably won't),

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 00:57, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Can I use that to filter out distutils2 commits? Well, I don't think we'll do commit emails for distutils2 or unittest2, only for benchmarks (to python-checkins, anyway). I'll make sure that you can filter something out by repository. Che

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 00:55, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Ah, this shouldn't be used at all for anything (except for studying how > Mercurial works). Along with the cpython repository, it is Dirkjan's > test conversion. Even if it survived the ultimate migration (which it > probably won't), it wou

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 16:06, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> I think sending them there "for now" is fine; in the long term, I >> propose to add an X-hgrepo header to the messages so that people can >> filter on that if they want to. > > We get the X-Hg-Notification header

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Sorry, I meant "pull from". I want an updated snapshot of 2to3 for the > benchmark suite, and I'm looking for the best place to grab it from. The 2to3 code currently still lives in the subversion sandbox. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Py

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>>> Should the 2to3 hg repository be deleted, then? >> Which one? To my knowledge, there is no official 2to3 repository yet. >> When the switchover happens, 2to3 should not be converted to its own hg >> repository, yes. > > This one: http://hg.python.org/2to3 Ah, this shouldn't be used at all for

Re: [Python-Dev] 'languishing' status for the tracker

2010-02-22 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:35:03 +0100, Georg Brandl wrote: > Am 22.02.2010 21:28, schrieb Florent Xicluna: > > I did not find any documentation about them in both places: > > * http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDocs/ "Tracker documentation" > > * http://www.python.org/dev/workflow/ "Issue workflow

[Python-Dev] small suggestion for a sprint project

2010-02-22 Thread Benjamin Peterson
Somebody at the sprint looking for a thankless task of drudgery could resolve the current svnmerge queue into the py3k branch. -- Regards, Benjamin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsu

Re: [Python-Dev] 'languishing' status for the tracker

2010-02-22 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 22.02.2010 21:28, schrieb Florent Xicluna: > R. David Murray bitdance.com> writes: > >> >> I believe Brett mentioned the 'languishing' status for the tracker in >> passing in his notes from the language summit. >> > > I see a bunch of existing "Status / Resolution" choices. > "open" / "

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 18:38, Martin Geisler wrote: > My dissertation is due this Friday(!), so I will not have much time to > look at EOL issues this week (as usual). But please give it a spin > anyway and let us hear what you think! I've got about 48 more hours of PyCon sprints ahead of me, so

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Martin Geisler
Dirkjan Ochtman writes: Hi everybody! I hope you have fun at PyCon :-) > As for the current state of The Dreaded EOL Issue, there is an > extension which seems to be provide all the needed features, but it > appears there are some nasty corner cases still to be fixed. Martin > Geisler has been

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial move?

2010-02-22 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Frank Wierzbicki wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Frank Wierzbicki > wrote: >> An advantage of being at PyCon :) >> >> We *may* be able to get on mercurial very fast -- since all of the >> interested parties are here. I'm going to get an svndump now -- t

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial move?

2010-02-22 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Frank Wierzbicki wrote: > An advantage of being at PyCon :) > > We *may* be able to get on mercurial very fast -- since all of the > interested parties are here. I'm going to get an svndump now -- the > downside to this is whatever anyone checks in during this in b

[Python-Dev] Mercurial move?

2010-02-22 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
An advantage of being at PyCon :) We *may* be able to get on mercurial very fast -- since all of the interested parties are here. I'm going to get an svndump now -- the downside to this is whatever anyone checks in during this in between stage would need to get re-checked in after we move. I'll l

Re: [Python-Dev] 'languishing' status for the tracker

2010-02-22 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:28:41 +, Florent Xicluna wrote: > R. David Murray bitdance.com> writes: > > > I believe Brett mentioned the 'languishing' status for the tracker in > > passing in his notes from the language summit. > > I see a bunch of existing "Status / Resolution" choices. > "

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 17:05, Collin Winter wrote: > Sorry, I meant "pull from". I want an updated snapshot of 2to3 for the > benchmark suite, and I'm looking for the best place to grab it from. Well, the server that has all the stuff for doing the conversions has annoyingly been down for about

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Collin Winter
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 16:09, Collin Winter wrote: >>> So the consensus is that 2to3 should be pulled out of the main Python >>> tree? Should the 2to3 hg repository be deleted, then? >> >> Wouldn't the former be rea

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 16:09, Collin Winter wrote: >> So the consensus is that 2to3 should be pulled out of the main Python >> tree? Should the 2to3 hg repository be deleted, then? > > Wouldn't the former be reason to officialize the hg repository, > instead of deleting

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 16:06, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > I think sending them there "for now" is fine; in the long term, I > propose to add an X-hgrepo header to the messages so that people can > filter on that if they want to. We get the X-Hg-Notification header (which has the changeset ID) for

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 16:09, Collin Winter wrote: > So the consensus is that 2to3 should be pulled out of the main Python > tree? Should the 2to3 hg repository be deleted, then? Wouldn't the former be reason to officialize the hg repository, instead of deleting it? Cheers, Dirkjan ___

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Collin Winter
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:27 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >>> The other thing is that we will loose some vcs history and some >>> history granularity by switching development to the trunk version, >>> since just the svnmerged revisions will be converted. >> >> So the consensus is that 2to3 should

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> The other thing is that we will loose some vcs history and some >> history granularity by switching development to the trunk version, >> since just the svnmerged revisions will be converted. > > So the consensus is that 2to3 should be pulled out of the main Python > tree? Not sure what you me

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial repository for Python benchmarks

2010-02-22 Thread Collin Winter
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Collin Winter wrote: > The benchmarks repository is now available at > http://hg.python.org/benchmarks/. It contains all the benchmarks that > the Unladen Swallow svn repository contains, including the beginnings > of a README.txt that describes the available bench

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 385 progress report

2010-02-22 Thread Collin Winter
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2010/2/13 "Martin v. Löwis" : >> I still think that the best approach for projects to use 2to3 is to run >> 2to3 at install time from a single-source release. For that, projects >> will have to adjust to whatever bugs certain 2to3 release

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Right. As Maciej asked about this, let's discuss it here: there are > currently no emails for these repositories. I'd like to get that > going; should I just have it send emails for each push to the normal > commits mailing list for now? I think sending them there "for now" is fine; in the long

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial repository for Python benchmarks

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 15:42, Thomas Wouters wrote: > It would be http://hg.python.org/benchmarks (http, not ssh; no username; no > '/repos' toplevel directory.) Correct. Another todo is to get commit mails; I'm currently working on that. Cheers, Dirkjan __

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial repository for Python benchmarks

2010-02-22 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 21:17, Collin Winter wrote: > If you have svn commit access, you should be able to run `hg clone > ssh://h...@hg.python.org/repos/benchmarks`. I'm not sure how to get > read-only access; Dirkjan can comment on that. > It would be http://hg.python.org/benchmarks (http, not

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.1 and 2.7 break format() when used with complex (sometimes)

2010-02-22 Thread Eric Smith
Eric Smith wrote: This code works on 2.6 and 3.0: >>> format(1+1j, '10s') '(1+1j)' That's because format ends up calling object.__format__ because complex doesn't have its own __format__. Then object.__format__ calls str(self) which returns '(1+1j)'. So the original call basically tur

Re: [Python-Dev] 'languishing' status for the tracker

2010-02-22 Thread Florent Xicluna
R. David Murray bitdance.com> writes: > > I believe Brett mentioned the 'languishing' status for the tracker in > passing in his notes from the language summit. > I see a bunch of existing "Status / Resolution" choices. "open" / "later" "open" / "postponed" "open" / "remind" I did

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial repository for Python benchmarks

2010-02-22 Thread Collin Winter
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Collin Winter wrote: > Hey Daniel, > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Daniel Stutzbach > wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Collin Winter >> wrote: >>> >>> Would it be possible for us to get a Mercurial repository on >>> python.org for the Unladen Swall

[Python-Dev] 3.1 and 2.7 break format() when used with complex (sometimes)

2010-02-22 Thread Eric Smith
This code works on 2.6 and 3.0: >>> format(1+1j, '10s') '(1+1j)' That's because format ends up calling object.__format__ because complex doesn't have its own __format__. Then object.__format__ calls str(self) which returns '(1+1j)'. So the original call basically turns into "format('(1

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
2010/2/22 sstein...@gmail.com : > The checkout URL for non-ssh read-only access is: > >        http://hg.python.org/distutils2/ > > in case anyone else is searching for it. Right. As Maciej asked about this, let's discuss it here: there are currently no emails for these repositories. I'd like to g

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread sstein...@gmail.com
On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 23:15, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> Sounds good, thanks > > It's right here: ssh://h...@hg.python.org/repos/distutils2 The checkout URL for non-ssh read-only access is: http://hg.python.org/distutils2/ in case

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 23:15, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> Sounds good, thanks > > It's right here: ssh://h...@hg.python.org/repos/distutils2 Thanks a lot ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] Another mercurial repo

2010-02-22 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 23:15, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > Sounds good, thanks It's right here: ssh://h...@hg.python.org/repos/distutils2 Cheers, Dirkjan ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Uns

Re: [Python-Dev] 'languishing' status for the tracker

2010-02-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
R. David Murray wrote: > I believe Brett mentioned the 'languishing' status for the tracker in > passing in his notes from the language summit. Thanks for that. I had assumed Brett meant something along those lines, but it is good to have the rationale made explicit. Cheers, Nick. P.S. Not tha

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial repository for Python benchmarks

2010-02-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2010/2/21 Dirkjan Ochtman : >> I'd be happy to host stuff for people who are already Python >> committers, and limit it to stuff that would otherwise live somewhere >> in Python's svn repository. > > +1 Sounds like a good starting place. This is pretty much the same app

Re: [Python-Dev] some notes from the first part of the lang summit

2010-02-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
Brett Cannon wrote: > Could, but the code will go away some day and not everyone will read the > docs to realize that they might want to upgrade their code if they care > to use the shiniest thing in the standard library. I agree with Brett here - PendingDeprecationWarning for "there's a better op