On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Greg Ewing wrote:
> On 28/07/10 23:12, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
>> It should be noted, though, that a full GC can be detrimental to
>> real-time applications. Kristján has already explained how some of his
>> software disabled the cyclic GC, and took care of breakin
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
> I thought at the last two pycons, we've all discussed that we should
> have a system in place for marking tests *and* modules within the
> stdlib as "will only work on FooPython". I suspect that it's waiting
> on the shared-stdlib effort, whic
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
> Hello.
>
> We are sorry but we cannot help you. This mailing list is to work on
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
>> I thought at the last two pycons, we've all discussed that we should
>> have a system in place for marking tests *and* modules within the
>> stdlib as "will only work on FooPython". I su
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, I certainly didn't expect it. If
you create a file called test.py with the following contents,
class Test:
pass
def test_1():
import test
print Test == test.Test
if __name__ == '__main__':
test_1()
and then run it ($ python test.py), it
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Daniel Waterworth
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, I certainly didn't expect it. If
> you create a file called test.py with the following contents,
>
> class Test:
> pass
>
> def test_1():
> import test
> print Test == test.Test
>
> i
On 29/07/2010 07:32, Daniel Waterworth wrote:
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, I certainly didn't expect it. If
you create a file called test.py with the following contents,
The issue is that when your code is executed as a script it is run as
the __main__ module and not as the t
On 25 July 2010 19:26, Jesse Noller wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>> - Concurrency and parallelism: Russel Winder and Sarah Mount pushed
>> the idea of CSP
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communicating_sequential_processes) in
>> several talks at the confere
Now that we've got the short float repr in Python, there's less value
in having float.__str__ truncate to 12 significant digits (as it
currently does). For Python 3.2, I propose making float.__str__ use
the same algorithm as float.__repr__ for its output (and similarly for
complex).
Apart from si
On 29/07/2010 19:47, Mark Dickinson wrote:
Now that we've got the short float repr in Python, there's less value
in having float.__str__ truncate to 12 significant digits (as it
currently does). For Python 3.2, I propose making float.__str__ use
the same algorithm as float.__repr__ for its outpu
Wiadomość napisana przez Mark Dickinson w dniu 2010-07-29, o godz. 20:47:
> Now that we've got the short float repr in Python, there's less value
> in having float.__str__ truncate to 12 significant digits (as it
> currently does). For Python 3.2, I propose making float.__str__ use
> the same al
On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Mark Dickinson wrote:
> Now that we've got the short float repr in Python, there's less value
> in having float.__str__ truncate to 12 significant digits (as it
> currently does). For Python 3.2, I propose making float.__str__ use
> the same algorithm as float.__rep
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Raymond Hettinger
wrote:
>
> On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Mark Dickinson wrote:
>
>> Now that we've got the short float repr in Python, there's less value
>> in having float.__str__ truncate to 12 significant digits (as it
>> currently does). For Python 3.2, I pr
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Mark Dickinson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Raymond Hettinger
> wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Mark Dickinson wrote:
>>
>>> Now that we've got the short float repr in Python, there's less value
>>> in having float.__str__ truncate to 12 si
FWIW, I am +1 on dropping tkinter interface. Tkinter window looks
foreign next to browser and server-side GUI that opens a new client
window with each search topic does not strike me as most usable
design. Furthermore, I just tried to use it on my OSX laptop and it
crashed after I searched fo
On 7/29/2010 4:30 PM, Mark Dickinson wrote:
As you say, it's just one less surprise, and one less thing to
explain: a small shrinkage of the mental footprint of the language.
With this change, I believe the only difference between str(ob) and
repr(ob) will be the addition of quotes. If so, p
Mark Dickinson wrote:
> Now that we've got the short float repr in Python, there's less value
> in having float.__str__ truncate to 12 significant digits (as it
> currently does). For Python 3.2, I propose making float.__str__ use
> the same algorithm as float.__repr__ for its output (and similarl
On 29/07/2010 22:37, Robert Brewer wrote:
Mark Dickinson wrote:
Now that we've got the short float repr in Python, there's less value
in having float.__str__ truncate to 12 significant digits (as it
currently does). For Python 3.2, I propose making float.__str__ use
the same algorithm as fl
>> When you proposed the idea at EuroPython, it seemed reasonable
>> but we didn't go into the pros and cons. The downsides include
>> breaking tests, changing the output of report generating scripts
>> that aren't using string formatting, and it introduces another
>> inter-version incompatibilit
Hello all,
My apologies in advance if email mangles whitespace in the code
examples. I can reformulate as a PEP if that is deemed useful and this
document can be found online at:
http://hg.python.org/unittest2/file/tip/description.txt
(Please excuse errors and omissions - but do feel fre
Damn, the email was truncated. Probably my fault. The part missed off is:
Not Yet Implemented
===
Except where noted, everything in this document is already working in
the prototype. There are a few open issues and things still to be
implemented.
Certain event attributes sho
2010/7/29 Nick Coghlan :
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
>> I thought at the last two pycons, we've all discussed that we should
>> have a system in place for marking tests *and* modules within the
>> stdlib as "will only work on FooPython". I suspect that it's waiting
>> on
2010/7/29 Raymond Hettinger :
>
>>> When you proposed the idea at EuroPython, it seemed reasonable
>>> but we didn't go into the pros and cons. The downsides include
>>> breaking tests, changing the output of report generating scripts
>>> that aren't using string formatting, and it introduces anot
Le vendredi 09 juillet 2010 02:11:35, Victor Stinner a écrit :
> I'm trying to fix Python to support undecodable bytes in the Python path
> (...)
My work is mostly done. I posted a patch on Rietveld and opened an issue.
http://bugs.python.org/issue9425
http://codereview.appspot.com/1874048
--
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Raymond Hettinger
wrote:
> It also really calls into question whether there are good
> reasons for other types to have a __str__ that is different
> than their __repr__.
Maybe, but there is tons of 3rd party code that uses this distinction.
--
--Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Raymond Hettinger
wrote:
..
> It also really calls into question whether there are good
> reasons for other types to have a __str__ that is different
> than their __repr__.
For strings, the distinction is very useful. In this and many other
cases unifying str and
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