Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] [RELEASED] Python 3.2 rc 3

2011-02-14 Thread Mark Summerfield
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:40:00 +0100 Georg Brandl ge...@python.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the Python development team, I'm happy to announce the third release candidate of Python 3.2. Python 3.2 is a continuation of the efforts to improve and

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Giampaolo Rodolà
2011/2/13 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net: It would then be subject to python-dev development policy rather than twisted dev policy (which is even stricter!). Would the twisted devs *really* want that? We could use the same processes we have for externally maintained libraries, but they

Re: [Python-Dev] Rights on the tracker

2011-02-14 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 00:16:05 +0100, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:47:01 + Alexis Métaireau ale...@notmyidea.org wrote: * Is it possible to automatically be in the noisy list for distutils2' bug reports ? Someone else with the right knowledge and

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Bill Janssen
Giampaolo Rodolà g.rod...@gmail.com wrote: Although I don't use it, it seems that Twisted managed to do this by splitting the concepts of transport and protocol / application and by using zope.interface. You might want to look at the ILU core, too, just for ideas. Somewhat to my surprise,

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Greg Ewing
Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: for me it should also fit one crucial requirement: it should be *simple* and reflect the simplicity and taste of all other stdlib modules, and to fulfill such a requirement I think Twisted probably needs to be adapted a bit. My thoughts exactly -- from a bird's eye

Re: [Python-Dev] Rights on the tracker

2011-02-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Done. I hope. This is the first one we (currently) have where more than one person is being auto-nosied, so I hope I got the syntax right. It should be fine: roundup_tracker= select * from component_add_as_nosy where nodeid = 25; linkid | nodeid + 7641 | 25 12434 |

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread exarkun
On 14 Feb, 10:15 pm, greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: Giampaolo Rodol� wrote: for me it should also fit one crucial requirement: it should be *simple* and reflect the simplicity and taste of all other stdlib modules, and to fulfill such a requirement I think Twisted probably needs to be

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Eric Smith
On 2/14/2011 5:15 PM, Greg Ewing wrote: Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: for me it should also fit one crucial requirement: it should be *simple* and reflect the simplicity and taste of all other stdlib modules, and to fulfill such a requirement I think Twisted probably needs to be adapted a bit. My

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:20 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: What part do you think is a hard problem? Convincing people to switch to a new API? I think the hard parts is coming up with an API that's simple enough to learn quickly but powerful enough for to cover most use-cases and

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread James Mills
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:45 AM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: As far as the difficulties of finding the good ideas in Twisted goes, there are several people familiar with Twisted already contributing to this thread.  Between us all, I'm sure we can dig out the insidiously buried secrets.

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread James Mills
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Daniel Stutzbach stutzb...@google.com wrote: If we go with something based on or inspired by Twisted, that solves some problems, but creates others.  Will users be able to later migrate to using Twisted proper?  Will the standard library module and Twisted go

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Paul Moore
On 15 February 2011 00:45, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: As far as the difficulties of finding the good ideas in Twisted goes, there are several people familiar with Twisted already contributing to this thread.  Between us all, I'm sure we can dig out the insidiously buried secrets.  As I