Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 393 Summer of Code Project

2011-09-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Greg Ewing writes: > I find it curious that pronunciation always seems to take > precedence over spelling in campaigns like this. Nowadays, > especially with the internet increasingly taking over from > personal interaction, we probably see words written a lot > more often than we hear them s

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 393 Summer of Code Project

2011-09-02 Thread Greg Ewing
Terry Reedy wrote: While it has apparently been criticized as 'conservative' (which is well ought to be), it has been rather progressive in promoting changes such as 'ph' to 'f' (fisica, fone) and dropping silent 'p' in leading 'psi' (sicologia) and silent 's' in leading 'sci' (ciencia). I f

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 optimizations continued...

2011-09-02 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Maciej Fijalkowski, 02.09.2011 20:42: >>> >>> For a comparative real world benchmark I tested Martin von Loewis' >>> django port (there are not that many meaningful Python 3 real world >>> benchmarks) and got a speedup of 1.3 (without IIS). Th

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 optimizations continued...

2011-09-02 Thread Stefan Behnel
Maciej Fijalkowski, 02.09.2011 20:42: For a comparative real world benchmark I tested Martin von Loewis' django port (there are not that many meaningful Python 3 real world benchmarks) and got a speedup of 1.3 (without IIS). This is reasonably well, US got a speedup of 1.35 on this benchmark. I j

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 optimizations continued...

2011-09-02 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
> > For a comparative real world benchmark I tested Martin von Loewis' > django port (there are not that many meaningful Python 3 real world > benchmarks) and got a speedup of 1.3 (without IIS). This is reasonably > well, US got a speedup of 1.35 on this benchmark. I just checked that > pypy-c-late

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 393 Summer of Code Project

2011-09-02 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/01/2011 11:59 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Tres Seaver writes: > >> FWIW, I was taught that Spanish had 30 letters in the alfabeto: >> the 'ñ', plus 'ch', 'll', and 'rr' were all considered distinct >> characters. > > That was always a Cast

Re: [Python-Dev] Multigigabyte memory usage in the OpenIndiana Buildbot

2011-09-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 19:53:37 +0200 Jesus Cea wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/09/11 17:57, Jesus Cea wrote: > > The build hangs or die with a "out of memory" error, eventually. > > A simple "make test" with python not compiled with "pydebug" and > skipping all t

Re: [Python-Dev] Multigigabyte memory usage in the OpenIndiana Buildbot

2011-09-02 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/09/11 17:57, Jesus Cea wrote: > The build hangs or die with a "out of memory" error, eventually. A simple "make test" with python not compiled with "pydebug" and skipping all the optional tests (like zip64) is taking up to 300MB of RAM. Python 2

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 optimizations continued...

2011-09-02 Thread Stefan Behnel
stefan brunthaler, 02.09.2011 17:55: 4) Regarding inlined object references, I would expect that it's much more worthwhile to speed up LOAD_GLOBAL and LOAD_NAME than LOAD_CONST. I guess that this would be best helped by watching the module dict and the builtin dict internally and invalidating the

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 393 Summer of Code Project

2011-09-02 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sep 1, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> Le jeudi 01 septembre 2011 à 08:45 -0700, Guido van Rossum a écrit : >>> This is definitely thought of as a separate >>> mark added to the e; ë is not a new letter. I have a feeling it's the same >>> way for the French

[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2011-09-02 Thread Python tracker
ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2011-08-26 - 2011-09-02) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. Do NOT respond to this message. Issues counts and deltas: open2967 ( +4) closed 21701 (+36) total 24668 (+40) Open issues wit

[Python-Dev] Multigigabyte memory usage in the OpenIndiana Buildbot

2011-09-02 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A single instance of buildbot in the OpenIndiana buildbot is eating 1.4GB of RAM and 3.8GB of SWAP and growing. The build hangs or die with a "out of memory" error, eventually. This is 100% reproducible. Everytime I force a build thru the buildbot co

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 optimizations continued...

2011-09-02 Thread stefan brunthaler
> 1) The SFC optimisation is purely based on static code analysis, right? I > assume it takes loops into account (and just multiplies scores for inner > loops)? Is that what you mean with "nesting level"? Obviously, static > analysis can sometimes be misleading, e.g. when there's a rare special cas

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 optimizations continued...

2011-09-02 Thread stefan brunthaler
> as promised, I created a publicly available preview of an > implementation with my optimizations, which is available under the > following location: > https://bitbucket.org/py3_pio/preview/wiki/Home > One very important thing that I forgot was to indicate that you have to use computed gotos (i.e.

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 optimizations continued...

2011-09-02 Thread Stefan Behnel
stefan brunthaler, 02.09.2011 06:37: as promised, I created a publicly available preview of an implementation with my optimizations, which is available under the following location: https://bitbucket.org/py3_pio/preview/wiki/Home I followed Nick's advice and added some valuable advice and overvi

Re: [Python-Dev] Ctypes and the stdlib (was Re: LZMA compression support in 3.3)

2011-09-02 Thread Jeremy Sanders
Dan Stromberg wrote: > SIP's approach of using something close to, but not identical to, the .h's > sounds like it might be pretty productive - especially if the derivative > of the .h's could be automatically derived using a python script, with > minor > tweaks to the inputs on .h upgrades. But