Re: [Python-Dev] __file__

2010-02-28 Thread Bugbee, Larry
Greg Ewing wrote: > Having .py files around that aren't source text could lead > to a lot of confusion, given that most platforms these days > decide which application to open for a given file based > solely on the filename extension. I wouldn't enjoy trying > to open a .py file only to have m

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 and arm-linux

2009-04-23 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> > Somebody knowns, is python3 works on arm-linux. Is it possible to build it? > > Where to find related discussions? Maybe some special patches already > > available? Should i try to get sources from svn or get known version > > snapshot? > > > > I haven't tried, but there's an interesting dis

Re: [Python-Dev] Shorter release schedule?

2009-05-13 Thread Bugbee, Larry
>From the perspective of this application developer and prototyper... In general, releases should be more frequent when the language is less mature and perhaps lacking. With maturity one seeks stability and less frequency. Python is, for the most part, a mature language. I submit the issue is

Re: [Python-Dev] Issues with Py3.1's new ipaddr

2009-06-02 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> The chances of a problem being introduced due to its removal > are vanishingly small. But that provides little consolation to the user who sees it in the standard library, is not aware to this discussion, and builds it into his app. Changes to the lib later may cause subtle but significant ef

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Encrypted Zip as python scripts

2009-08-24 Thread Bugbee, Larry
I like the idea, but... Here is a quick list of things to think about and if some of this has already been mentioned, sorry. Speed: Encryption speed has been mentioned. For short scripts this may not be a problem, although algorithms implemented in C would be faster. Strength: Passwords are [

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Encrypted Zip as python scripts

2009-08-24 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> > I like the idea, but... > For what use case? I don't have a specific case in mind. In general, however, it would be nice to be able to protect intellectual property, but without addressing the problem from a holistic view, there is little protection afforded and perhaps a lot of unrewarded wo

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Encrypted Zip as python scripts

2009-08-24 Thread Bugbee, Larry
I like the idea, but... >>> For what use case? >> I don't have a specific case in mind. In general, however, it >> would be nice to be able to protect intellectual property > This I'm also unclear about. How does it protect intellectual > property? Won't the person running the zipfile have t

Re: [Python-Dev] transitioning from % to {} formatting

2009-10-02 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> > Do the users get any say in this? > > I'm a user! :-) > > I hate calling methods on string literals, I think it looks very odd > to have code like this: > > "Displaying {0} of {1} revisions".format(x, y) Ugh! Good point. Is Python to be an easy-to-learn-and-remember language? I submi

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-25 Thread Bugbee, Larry
Hi Barry, A question Do you know if OpenSSL's applink.c will be included in the Windows builds? If so, and I hope it is, great! If not, I'd like to encourage its inclusion. Doing so will permit Python to be used with OpenSSL 0.9.8x on Windows platforms without a user trying to find someb

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> I don't understand how applink is going to help you. The SSL libs are statically linked > into the _ssl extension DLL. I personally have not used _ssl but on quick inspection I don't see any of the crypto algorithms implemented, AES, ECDSA, etc. What if we want to encrypt or sign content using

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> I don't understand how applink is going to help you. The SSL libs are statically linked > into the _ssl extension DLL. I personally have not used _ssl but on quick inspection I don't see any of the crypto algorithms implemented, AES, ECDSA, etc. What if we want to encrypt or sign content using

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
From: Bill Janssen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:14 AM To: Bugbee, Larry Cc: Christian Heimes; python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c? > I personally have not used _ssl but on quick inspection I don't see > a

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
osoft library? I dunno, I gotta ask. Larry -Original Message- From: "Martin v. Löwis" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:10 PM To: Christian Heimes Cc: Bill Janssen; Bugbee, Larry; python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6

Re: [Python-Dev] Python for windows.

2008-11-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
Gerald, if there is an expectation some of your HP windows users would like to use OpenSSL with Python, there is this little matter of including applink.c in the build. All, and not to start flames, but I still do not understand why applink.c isn't included in python's main (conditionally) inste

Re: [Python-Dev] Python for windows.

2008-11-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> > All, and not to start flames, but I still do not understand why > > applink.c isn't included in python's main (conditionally) instead > > of expecting users, many of them novices, to do the build. ??? > > One reason is that I don't know what applink is, and why I should > care about it. (I

Re: [Python-Dev] Python for windows.

2008-11-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
nssen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:54 PM To: Bugbee, Larry Cc: "Martin v. Löwis"; Koenig, Gerald; python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Python for windows. Bugbee, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For most custom apps this is a

Re: [Python-Dev] Python for windows.

2008-11-27 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> > > All, and not to start flames, but I still do not understand why > > > applink.c isn't included in python's main (conditionally) instead > > > of expecting users, many of them novices, to do the build. ??? > > > > One reason is that I don't know what applink is, and why I should care > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3.0, unicode, and os.environ

2008-12-05 Thread Bugbee, Larry
There has been some discussion here that users should use the str or byte function variant based on what is relevant to their system, for example when getting a list of file names or opening a file. That thought process really doesn't do much for those of us that write code that needs to run on a

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3.0, unicode, and os.environ

2008-12-08 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> I'm perhaps biased here; most of my Python programs don't have user > interfaces, because they don't "talk" to people, they talk to other > programs. The binary APIs for the OS are essential. I use and > deeply appreciate all the string handling features in Python, > particularly its firm g