Re: [Python-Dev] Split Misc/NEWS into individual files

2017-02-22 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Barry Warsaw's message of 2017-02-22 11:42:57 -0500: > On Feb 22, 2017, at 01:27 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: > > >OpenStack happily fixed this issue one or two years ago with "reno": > >https://pypi.python.org/pypi/reno > > reno looks interesting but there is at least one thing I thin

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL ruling request: should we block forever waiting for high-quality random bits?

2016-06-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
> On Jun 9, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Cory Benfield wrote: > > >> On 9 Jun 2016, at 13:53, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> I agree with David. We shouldn't break existing behavior in a way >> that might lead to someone else's software being unusable. > >

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL ruling request: should we block forever waiting for high-quality random bits?

2016-06-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from R. David Murray's message of 2016-06-09 08:41:01 -0400: > On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 13:12:22 +0100, Cory Benfield wrote: > > The Linux kernel can���t change this stuff easily because they mustn���t > > break userspace. Python *is* userspace, we can do what we like, and we > > I don't have

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-03-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 2, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Michael Foord wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-02-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
. > > The agenda of topics for discussion so far includes the following: > > * A report on pypy status - Maciej and Armin > * Jython and IronPython status reports - Dino / Frank > * Packaging (Doug Hellmann and Monty Taylor at least) Since the time I suggested we add pack

Re: [Python-Dev] question about packaging

2012-12-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Dec 29, 2012, at 5:47 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:59:05 -0500 > Doug Hellmann wrote: >> A couple of us from the OpenStack project are interested in getting involved >> in the packaging rewrite/update project. I was following that work for a >&

Re: [Python-Dev] question about packaging

2012-12-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
st: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > > > > Doug Hellmann wrote: >> A couple of us from the OpenStack project are interested in getting involved >> in the packaging rewrite/update project. I was following that work for a >> while, but have l

[Python-Dev] question about packaging

2012-12-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
A couple of us from the OpenStack project are interested in getting involved in the packaging rewrite/update project. I was following that work for a while, but have lost track of its current state. Can someone point me to the right mailing list, and maybe a status page or something so I can sta

Re: [Python-Dev] performance of {} versus dict(), de fmd(**kw): return kw trumps all ; -)

2012-11-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Chris Withers wrote: > On 14/11/2012 10:11, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: >> >> Zitat von Chris Withers : >> >>> a_dict = dict( >>>x = 1, >>>y = 2, >>>z = 3, >>>... >>>) >> >>> What can we do to speed up the former case? >> >> It should be possible

Re: [Python-Dev] Mirroring Python repos to Bitbucket

2011-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:08:40 -0400 > Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> Charles McLaughlin of Atlassian has set up mirrors of the Mercurial >> repositories hosted on python.org as part of the ongoing infrastructure &g

[Python-Dev] Fwd: Mirroring Python repos to Bitbucket

2011-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
features such as RSS feeds of changes for users interested in monitoring the repository passively. Thank you, Charles for setting this up and Atlassian for hosting it! Doug Begin forwarded message: > From: Charles McLaughlin > Date: August 10, 2011 3:43:06 PM EDT > To: Jesse Noll

Re: [Python-Dev] "Meet the Team" on Python Insider

2011-08-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
I should have made clear that if you have already completed the survey, we still have your data in the queue. The invitation is for anyone who has not yet sent us the info, including new team members. Doug On Aug 7, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > [Renewing this request

[Python-Dev] "Meet the Team" on Python Insider

2011-08-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
[Renewing this request for participation since there are a few new members since the original request went out.] We are running a series of interviews with the Python developers on the python-dev blog (http://blog.python.org). There is a short list of questions below this message. If you would

Re: [Python-Dev] Language summit writeup anyone?

2011-06-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:08 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > Hi. > > Unfortunately I'm missing Europython (and language summit) this year. > Did anyone do a writeup on what was discussed? Brian Curtin or I can help get the writeup posted to the Python Insider blog. I'm sure there are a lot of peop

Re: [Python-Dev] looking for a contact at Google on the Blogger team

2011-05-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
a blog on www.python.org, a PEP is not needed. If anybody would > volunteer to set this up, it could be done in no time. The blog is working again, so we can continue using the tool chain we have. Thanks, Doug -- Doug Hellmann Communications Director Python Software Found

[Python-Dev] looking for a contact at Google on the Blogger team

2011-05-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
a lot of posts about the error on the support forums, but no obvious response from Google. Thanks, Doug -- Doug Hellmann Communications Director Python Software Foundation http://python.org/psf/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mai

[Python-Dev] Python Insider translations

2011-05-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
I wanted to take a few minutes to let you all know that the recent call for help with translating Python Insider was met with a wave of enthusiastic contributors. We now have teams prepared to translate all posts to Simplified and Traditional Chinese, German, Japanese, Portuguese, Romanian, and

Re: [Python-Dev] Drop OS/2 and VMS support?

2011-04-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Apr 19, 2011, at 10:36 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Victor Stinner wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I asked one year ago if we should drop OS/2 support: Andrew MacIntyre, >> our OS/2 maintainer, answered: >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-April/099477.html >> >> Extract: << The 3.x branch

Re: [Python-Dev] new blog

2011-03-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 23, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le mercredi 23 mars 2011 à 13:19 -0400, Doug Hellmann a écrit : >> On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:50:53 -0400 >>> Doug Hellmann wrote: >>>> W

Re: [Python-Dev] new blog

2011-03-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:50:53 -0400 > Doug Hellmann wrote: >> We are nearly ready to launch the new blog for python-dev. > > Is any core dev allowed to post on this blog? (how?) > Or is there an editorial team dedic

[Python-Dev] "Meet the Team" on Python Insider

2011-03-22 Thread Doug Hellmann
We would like to run a series of interviews with the Python developers to get the new blog going. There is a short list of questions below this message. If you would like to be included in the series, please reply directly to me with your answers. We will be doing one or two posts per day, depe

Re: [Python-Dev] blogroll for the new blog

2011-03-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > Doug Hellmann wrote: >> We are nearly ready to launch the new blog for python-dev. > > Cool. But I always thought planet.python.org was a kind of blog for > python-dev. How will python-dev blog be different? W

[Python-Dev] blogroll for the new blog

2011-03-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
We are nearly ready to launch the new blog for python-dev. If you have a personal blog where you talk about your Python work, we would like to include a link in the sidebar as part of our blog-roll. Send me the URL (off-list) and I'll make sure you are included. Doug __

Re: [Python-Dev] Please retract my committer rights

2011-03-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
gt; In the meanwhile, it would be nice to have another ctypes maintainer, as >> there are several open issues. There is certainly a opening for a new person >> with C experience. >> > > I'll ask doug hellmann if this is something we can do a blog post > about on th

Re: [Python-Dev] public visibility of python-dev decisions "before it's too late" (was: PyCObject_AsVoidPtr removed from python 3.2 - is this documented?)

2011-03-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jesus Cea wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/03/11 22:50, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> I propose we try to find an "embedded blogger" who participates in >> python-dev but is focused on making regular blog posts about the >> interesting

Re: [Python-Dev] public visibility of python-dev decisions "before it's too late" (was: PyCObject_AsVoidPtr removed from python 3.2 - is this documented?)

2011-03-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 11, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > On 11 March 2011 23:24, Guido van Rossum wrote: >>> I'm interested in the task and I guess I'll follow-up with Doug Hellman. I >>> don't follow -ideas close enough to summarize it, but I'd contribute to a >>> -dev blog. >> >> Awesome! (And we don

Re: [Python-Dev] public visibility of python-dev decisions "before it's too late" (was: PyCObject_AsVoidPtr removed from python 3.2 - is this documented?)

2011-03-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 9, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Tim Lesher wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 01:15, Stefan Behnel wrote: >> Actually, why not put up a web page of "upcoming changes" somewhere, that >> lists major decisions with user impact that were taken on python-dev? >> Including a link to the relevant discussion

Re: [Python-Dev] framework build for 2.7 using old sqlite?

2010-10-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 3, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > I'm trying to write a little program that uses the full text search extension > module for sqlite with Python 2.7 on Snow Leopard. I installed Python by > downloading the DMG file from python.org. According to the Python

[Python-Dev] framework build for 2.7 using old sqlite?

2010-10-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
I'm trying to write a little program that uses the full text search extension module for sqlite with Python 2.7 on Snow Leopard. I installed Python by downloading the DMG file from python.org. According to the Python docs (http://docs.python.org/library/sqlite3.html#sqlite3.Connection.enable_l

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial migration readiness (was: Taking over the Mercurial Migration)

2010-07-01 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 1, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Daniel Stutzbach wrote: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:52 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: 4. Even if I make patch in my Mercurial clone - you still can't pull it and I have to attach it to tracker. No gain. Was there ever any discussion about hosting the central reposito

Re: [Python-Dev] audience-instructors for Teach Me Python Bugfixing needed

2010-05-06 Thread Doug Hellmann
What an excellent idea! We should have these at *every* regional conference. Doug On May 6, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Catherine Devlin wrote: Hey, everybody... I'm Catherine, a database administrator who makes up excuses to write Python instead. I'm not actually here as a core developer, but as

Re: [Python-Dev] __file__

2010-02-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Feb 26, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: So what is the burden of including a single source file that added the support to load from bytecode-only modules? I am not saying you shouldn't be able to have this functionality, just that I personally don't want to pay for the overhead (b

Re: [Python-Dev] __file__

2010-02-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Feb 26, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Michael Foord wrote: On 26/02/2010 22:09, Brett Cannon wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 16:13, Greg Ewing > wrote: Michael Foord wrote: I thought we agreed at the language summit that if a .pyc was in the place of the source file it *could* be imported from -

Re: [Python-Dev] status of issue #7242

2010-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:38:42 -0500, Doug Hellmann a écrit : I have commit access, can I just check in the patch? If you are sure of yourself, you can. But in this case see my comment on the tracker. OK, good point. I'll see ab

Re: [Python-Dev] status of issue #7242

2010-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: We've recently run into an issue with subprocess on Solaris, as described (by an earlier reporter) in issue #7242. The patch there solves our problem, and has been verified to work by other users as well. What&

Re: [Python-Dev] Enhancing the shutil module

2010-01-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jan 18, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Masklinn wrote: On 18 Jan 2010, at 13:40 , Nick Coghlan wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: There's one remaining external call for "zip" done if the zip module is not found, but I am happy to remove it and throw an exception if it's not found, and keep the external "zip"

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3003 - Python Language Moratorium

2009-11-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 3, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Michael Foord wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: I've checked draft (!) PEP 3003, "Python Language Moratorium", into SVN. As authors I've listed Jesse, Brett and myself. On python-ideas the moratorium idea got fairly p

Re: [Python-Dev] A new way to configure logging

2009-10-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote: All three of the contenders for the title of "commonly found configuration mechanism" - JSON, YAML and Python code - will be expressible, in Python, as Python dicts. So it seems to make sense to add, to logging.config, a new callable bound to

Re: [Python-Dev] A new way to configure logging

2009-10-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote: I've had bad experiences in the past with dictionary-based APIs. They seem "simpler" in the short run, because the user "only needs to create some dictionaries". Once the complexity of that nested dictionary grows to a certain point, thou

Re: [Python-Dev] eggs now mandatory for pypi?

2009-10-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 5, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Ben Finney wrote: Fredrik Lundh writes: it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is a good idea: no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg (jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points) Heh. If harsh, uninformed responses m

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 389: argparse - new command line parsing module

2009-09-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 27, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Michael Foord wrote: Brett Cannon wrote: I am going to state upfront that I am +1 for this and I encouraged Steven to submit this PEP on the stdlib-SIG. I still remember watching Steven's lightning talk at PyCon 2009 on argparse and being impressed by it (along

Re: [Python-Dev] Python on PowerPC?

2009-05-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
On May 20, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Chris Plasun wrote: Hi, I'm to develop console apps on a Linux embedded PowerPC board (Freescale MPC8313). Is there a Python release for the PowerPC platform? We used to run a version of the interpreter on PPC for a microcontroller board we had, but we buil

Re: [Python-Dev] IronPython specific code in inspect module

2009-05-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
On May 19, 2009, at 10:21 PM, David Stanek wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Benjamin Peterson > wrote: 2009/5/19 Michael Foord : I have IronPython specific versions of several of these functions which use .NET reflection and inspect could fallback to if sys.platform == 'cli'. Would i

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

2008-10-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: Raymond Hettinger wrote: * It will assist pypy style projects and other python implementations when they have to build equivalents to CPython. * Will eliminate confusion about what functions were exactly intended to do. * Will confer

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

2008-10-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:34 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: If linking to the new version could be done easily, we could as well directly redirect. The problem is that having that mapping in the first place is hard. I was looking for the easy route. If the layout of the new docs changed complete

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

2008-10-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: Doug Hellmann schrieb: Not a single one, no. The URLs *all* changed. There is not a single one that's the same. We may be able to do a single rewrite rule for most of the module-*.html URLs, but everything else -- and there is quite a l

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

2008-10-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 2, 2008, at 7:28 AM, Thomas Wouters wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:44, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thomas Wouters python.org> writes: > > If anyone feels particularly frustrated by the old URLs breaking, I wouldn't mind adding a redirection for each individual URL