Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-23 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:53:48 -0500 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: now is > In 50 years, our grandchildren will be writing code with brain > implants and displays burned right into their retina, and they'll / > still/ be subject to 79 characters. I laugh every time I think that > the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread Ron Adam
Barry Warsaw wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Feb 21, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Ron Adam wrote: > >> Barry Warsaw wrote: >> >>> Why should docstrings and comments be limited to 72 characters when >>> code is limited to 79 characters? I ask because there is an ongoing >>

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 22, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Aahz wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Why not just skip the specifics except to say < 80 characters for all lines? Don't mention 72, 79 or any other number than 80: >> >>

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 21, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Why should docstrings and comments be limited to 72 characters when >> code is limited to 79 characters? I ask bec

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 21, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Ron Adam wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: > >> Why should docstrings and comments be limited to 72 characters when >> code is limited to 79 characters? I ask because there is an ongoing >> debate at my company about this. >

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 22, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> > Why not just skip the specifics except to say < 80 characters >>

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > >> Why not just skip the specifics except to say < 80 characters for > all > > >> lines? Don't mention 72, 79 or any other number than 80: > > > > Amaury

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Why not just skip the specifics except to say < 80 characters for all > >> lines? Don't mention 72, 79 or any other number than 80: > > Amaury> I often run "svn diff" in a console limited to 80 characters. > Amaury> Because

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:12:16AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I use "svn > annotate" from time-to-time which adds an even wider margin to the left. > In those situations I either grin and bear it or stretch my window enough to > view it without wrapping. svn blame | less -S Oleg. --

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread skip
>> Why not just skip the specifics except to say < 80 characters for all >> lines? Don't mention 72, 79 or any other number than 80: Amaury> I often run "svn diff" in a console limited to 80 characters. Amaury> Because of the leading "+", lines longer than 78 wrap, and the Am

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
008 08:01 > To: Skip Montanaro > Cc: python-dev Dev > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep- > 0008.txt > > Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Why not just skip the specifics except to say < 80 characters for all > > lines? Don't mention 72, 79 or

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-22 Thread Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
Skip Montanaro wrote: > Why not just skip the specifics except to say < 80 characters for all > lines? Don't mention 72, 79 or any other number than 80: I often run "svn diff" in a console limited to 80 characters. Because of the leading "+", lines longer than 78 wrap, and the output is more dif

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-21 Thread Skip Montanaro
Why not just skip the specifics except to say < 80 characters for all lines? Don't mention 72, 79 or any other number than 80: Maximum Line Length There are still many devices around that are limited to 80 character lines; plus, limiting windows to 80 characters makes it po

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-21 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Feb 21, 2008, at 11:21 AM, skip.montanaro wrote: > > > Author: skip.montanaro > > Date: Thu Feb 21 17:21:15 2008 > > New Revision: 60919 > > > > Modified: >

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-21 Thread Ron Adam
Barry Warsaw wrote: > Why should docstrings and comments be limited to 72 characters when > code is limited to 79 characters? I ask because there is an ongoing > debate at my company about this. I'm not sure if this is the main reason, but when using pydoc to view docstrings, the 72 chara

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-21 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why should docstrings and comments be limited to 72 characters when > code is limited to 79 characters? I ask because there is an ongoing > debate at my company about this. People in your company have too much time on t

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 21, 2008, at 11:21 AM, skip.montanaro wrote: > Author: skip.montanaro > Date: Thu Feb 21 17:21:15 2008 > New Revision: 60919 > > Modified: > peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt > Log: > Replace "looks ugly" with a hopefully more concrete explanation of