Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-31 Thread Gary Herron
Guido van Rossum wrote: >Help! > >What's the magic to get $Revision$ and $Date$ to be expanded upon >checkin? Comparing pep-0352.txt and pep-0343.txt, I noticed that the >latter has the svn revision and date in the headers, while the former >still has Brett's original revision 1.5 and a date somew

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-31 Thread François Pinard
[Guido van Rossum] >What's the magic to get $Revision$ and $Date$ to be expanded upon >checkin? Expansion does not occur on checkin, but on checkout, and even then, only in your copy -- that one you see (the internal Subversion copy is untouched). You have to edit a property for the file where

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-31 Thread Tim Peters
[Guido] > Help! > > What's the magic to get $Revision$ and $Date$ to be expanded upon > checkin? Comparing pep-0352.txt and pep-0343.txt, I noticed that the > latter has the svn revision and date in the headers, while the former > still has Brett's original revision 1.5 and a date somewhere in June

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-31 Thread Guido van Rossum
Help! What's the magic to get $Revision$ and $Date$ to be expanded upon checkin? Comparing pep-0352.txt and pep-0343.txt, I noticed that the latter has the svn revision and date in the headers, while the former still has Brett's original revision 1.5 and a date somewhere in June. I tried to fix th

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I went ahead and used Tim's note as the basis for a page on the wiki: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/CvsToSvn > > It's linked from the PythonDevelopers page (a page of previously dubious > necessity). I have pretty much the same reservations against Wikis as Brett

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-30 Thread skip
Tim> Excellent suggestions! I have a few to pass on: skip> These are precisely the things the Wiki would be good for. I went ahead and used Tim's note as the basis for a page on the wiki: http://wiki.python.org/moin/CvsToSvn It's linked from the PythonDevelopers page (a page of pre

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-30 Thread skip
Tim> Excellent suggestions! I have a few to pass on: ... Tim, Thanks for the tips. As a new svn user myself, I find these helpful. These are precisely the things the Wiki would be good for. They don't prescribe policy. They help people in a general way to migrate from cvs to svn mo

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-29 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Friday 28 October 2005 21:29, Tim Peters wrote: > - Finding out what's changed in your sandbox. Use "svn status" > for that. Bonus: in return for creating zillions of admin files, > "svn status" > is a local operation (no network access required). Do "svn status -u" > to get, in add

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-29 Thread Oleg Broytmann
Hello! On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 09:29:09PM -0400, Tim Peters wrote: > - Finding out what's changed in your sandbox. Use "svn status" svn diff uses locally saved copies of files. This increases speed by trading for the disk space. It also decreases net traffic; that's important for those who ha

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-28 Thread Tim Peters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Though there's no svn/cvs cheatsheet there, you may also find isolated >> tidbits in the Subversion FAQ: >> >> http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html >> >> Just grep around for "cvs". [Martin v. Löwis] > In addition, you might want to read > > http://www.python.org/dev/svn.

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-28 Thread Nick Coghlan
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 27 October 2005 14:16, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > > I think I would request a separate address; I don't think I want to get > > all webmaster email. > > I like the idea of a separate address as well. Perhaps the radically named [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Ni

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread skip
Fred> Are you suggesting that the key-deposit address be routed to the Fred> webmaster crew? Most of the webmasters don't have the access Fred> needed to deposit keys. In fact, many of us on the pydotorg list don't have ssh access either. I suspect the number of useful recipients is

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Thursday 27 October 2005 14:16, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > I think I would request a separate address; I don't think I want to get > all webmaster email. I like the idea of a separate address as well. > That address should probably include webmaster, though. Are you suggesting that the key-d

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote: > Mail to pydotorg doesn't allow posting from non-members; I watch for > notifications for owner on that list and try to approve as quickly as > possible, but it's a manual process just to get the mail through. Ah, didn't know this. > We should probably have a dedicate

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.
On Thursday 27 October 2005 12:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send your keys to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless you specify otherwise, your > login will probably be "jim.fulton". Mail to pydotorg doesn't allow posting from non-members; I watch for notifications for owner on that list and try to appro

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Jim Fulton wrote: >> Can anyone point an old CVS/Perforce-Luddite at instructions for how >> to use the new SVN repository? > > > And can you remind us where to send our public keys? :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] should work; you will get a confirmation when they are installed. Regards, Martin _

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Though there's no svn/cvs cheatsheet there, you may also find isolated > tidbits in the Subversion FAQ: > > http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html > > Just grep around for "cvs". In addition, you might want to read http://www.python.org/dev/svn.html Regards, Marti

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread skip
Jim> And can you remind us where to send our public keys? :) Jim, Send your keys to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless you specify otherwise, your login will probably be "jim.fulton". Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread Jim Fulton
Jeremy Hylton wrote: > Can anyone point an old CVS/Perforce-Luddite at instructions for how > to use the new SVN repository? And can you remind us where to send our public keys? :) Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread skip
Jeremy> Can anyone point an old CVS/Perforce-Luddite at instructions for Jeremy> how to use the new SVN repository? Jeremy, I'd never used Subversion until Barry grabbed the python.org web maintainers by our collective ears and dragged us to the table with the kool aid. As it turns out,

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-27 Thread Jeremy Hylton
Can anyone point an old CVS/Perforce-Luddite at instructions for how to use the new SVN repository? Jeremy On 10/23/05, Michael Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'd like to start the subversion switchover this coming Wednesday, > > with a tot

Re: [Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-23 Thread Michael Hudson
"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd like to start the subversion switchover this coming Wednesday, > with a total commit freeze at 16:00 GMT. Yay! Thanks again for doing this. Cheers, mwh -- [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublangua

[Python-Dev] Freezing the CVS on Oct 26 for SVN switchover

2005-10-23 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I'd like to start the subversion switchover this coming Wednesday, with a total commit freeze at 16:00 GMT. If you have larger changes to commit that you would like to commit before the switchover, but after that date, please let me know. At that point, I will set the repository to read-only (thro