>
> FWIW, I agree that much of the rhetoric in the current version of PEP
> 414 is excessive.
>
> Armin has given me permission to create an updated version of PEP 414
> and toning down the hyperbole (or removing it entirely in cases where
> it's irrelevant to the final decision) is one of the t
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> mar...@v.loewis.de writes:
>
> > One thing that the PEP will certainly achieve is to spread the myth that
> > you cannot port to Python 3 if you also want to support Python 2.5. That's
> > because people will accept the "single sourc
mar...@v.loewis.de writes:
> One thing that the PEP will certainly achieve is to spread the myth that
> you cannot port to Python 3 if you also want to support Python 2.5. That's
> because people will accept the "single source" approach as the one right way,
> and will accept that this only wo
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:51, Vinay Sajip wrote:
> Brett Cannon python.org> writes:
>
>> Changes to http://docs.python.org/howto/pyporting.html are welcome. I tried
>> to
>> make sure it exposed all possibilities with tips on how to support as far
>> back
>> as Python 2.5.
>
> Right, will take
Brett Cannon python.org> writes:
> Changes to http://docs.python.org/howto/pyporting.html are welcome. I tried to
> make sure it exposed all possibilities with tips on how to support as far back
> as Python 2.5.
Right, will take a look. FYI a Google search for "python 3 porting guide" shows
the
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:07, Vinay Sajip wrote:
> v.loewis.de> writes:
>
> > One thing that the PEP will certainly achieve is to spread the myth that
> > you cannot port to Python 3 if you also want to support Python 2.5.
> That's
> > because people will accept the "single source" approach as
v.loewis.de> writes:
> One thing that the PEP will certainly achieve is to spread the myth that
> you cannot port to Python 3 if you also want to support Python 2.5. That's
> because people will accept the "single source" approach as the one right
> way, and will accept that this only works well
If PEP 414 helps some projects migrate to Python 3, great.
But I really hope we as a community don't perpetuate the myth that you cannot
port to Python 3 without this, and I hope that we spend as much effort on
educating other Python developers on how to port to Python 3 *right now*
supporting Py
On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
>Well, when the code is committed I will update the porting HOWTO and push
>the __future__ imports first since they cover more versions of Python (i.e.
>Python 3.2). But I will mention the options that skip the __future__
>imports for those that ch
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:53, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 08:41 AM, R. David Murray wrote:
>
> >Hmm. It seems to me that this argument implies that PEP 414 is just
> >as likely to *slow down* adoption of Python3 as it is to speed it up,
> >since if this issue is as big a barrier a
On Feb 28, 2012, at 08:41 AM, R. David Murray wrote:
>Hmm. It seems to me that this argument implies that PEP 414 is just
>as likely to *slow down* adoption of Python3 as it is to speed it up,
>since if this issue is as big a barrier as indicated, many potential
>porters may choose to wait until
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