Re: Building Python 3.12 with no-omit-frame-pointer

2023-01-11 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 23. 11. 22 9:12, Petr Viktorin wrote: On 22. 11. 22 18:30, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 21. 11. 22 11:01, Petr Viktorin wrote: And since the Python slowdown comes from a single weird function, I think that Fedora should ignore the Python benchmarks when evaluating the distro default -- and if

Re: Building Python 3.12 with no-omit-frame-pointer

2022-11-23 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 22. 11. 22 18:30, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 21. 11. 22 11:01, Petr Viktorin wrote: And since the Python slowdown comes from a single weird function, I think that Fedora should ignore the Python benchmarks when evaluating the distro default -- and if Fedora switches to no-omit-frame-pointer,

Re: Building Python 3.12 with no-omit-frame-pointer

2022-11-22 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 21. 11. 22 11:01, Petr Viktorin wrote: And since the Python slowdown comes from a single weird function, I think that Fedora should ignore the Python benchmarks when evaluating the distro default -- and if Fedora switches to no-omit-frame-pointer, Python 3.11 should be an exception (to be

Re: Building Python 3.12 with no-omit-frame-pointer

2022-11-21 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 09. 11. 22 12:37, Petr Viktorin wrote: tl;dr: Python 3.12 should be built with no-omit-frame-pointer if upstream recommends it. Hello, You might be aware of a Fedora change proposal [0] (discussed on fedora-devel [1] and FESCo [2]) are discussing turning on C compiler flags that help

Re: Building Python 3.12 with no-omit-frame-pointer

2022-11-16 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 15. 11. 22 20:17, Kevin Kofler wrote: tl;dr: Python 3.12 should be built with no-omit-frame-pointer if upstream recommends it. Absolutely not, because… Apparently there are some benchmarks that make Python look extra slow when the flags are turned on … considering those benchmarks,

Re: Building Python 3.12 with no-omit-frame-pointer

2022-11-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
> tl;dr: Python 3.12 should be built with no-omit-frame-pointer if > upstream recommends it. Absolutely not, because… > Apparently there are some benchmarks that make Python look extra slow > when the flags are turned on … considering those benchmarks, Python is one of the programs for which

Building Python 3.12 with no-omit-frame-pointer

2022-11-09 Thread Petr Viktorin
tl;dr: Python 3.12 should be built with no-omit-frame-pointer if upstream recommends it. Hello, You might be aware of a Fedora change proposal [0] (discussed on fedora-devel [1] and FESCo [2]) are discussing turning on C compiler flags that help with performance *measurement*, but might hurt