So (wearing my maintainer hat for unittest) - very happy to consider
proposals and patches; I'd very much like to fix some structural APIs
in unittest, but I don't have the bandwidth to do so myself at this
point. And what you're asking about is largely a structural issue
because of the interaction
Makes sense. Thanks!
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:20 AM Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 24 August 2017 at 08:20, Neil Girdhar wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 3:31 AM Nick Coghlan wrote:
> >> However, PEP 550's execution contexts may provide a way to track the
> >> test state reliably that's independe
On 24 August 2017 at 08:20, Neil Girdhar wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 3:31 AM Nick Coghlan wrote:
>> However, PEP 550's execution contexts may provide a way to track the
>> test state reliably that's independent of being a method on a test
>> case instance, in which case it would become feasi
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Neil Girdhar wrote:
> Like you, I used nose and then switched to pytest. The reason I proposed
> this for unittest is because pytest and nose and (I think) most of the
> other testing frameworks inherit from unittest,
>
not really -- they extend unittest -- in t
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 3:31 AM Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 23 August 2017 at 08:20, rym...@gmail.com wrote:
> > TBH you're completely right. Every time I see someone using unittest
> > andItsHorriblyUnpythonicNames, I want to kill a camel.
> >
> > Sometimes, though, I feel like part of the struggl
On 23 August 2017 at 08:20, rym...@gmail.com wrote:
> TBH you're completely right. Every time I see someone using unittest
> andItsHorriblyUnpythonicNames, I want to kill a camel.
>
> Sometimes, though, I feel like part of the struggle is the alternative. If
> you dislike unittest, but pytest is t
Like you, I used nose and then switched to pytest. The reason I proposed
this for unittest is because pytest and nose and (I think) most of the
other testing frameworks inherit from unittest, so improving unittest has
downstream benefits. I may nevertheless propose this to the pytest people
if th
Getting kind of OT, but:
... pytest is too "magical" for you,
>
I do get confused a bit sometimes, but for the most part, I simple don't
use the magic -- pytest does a great job of making the simple things simple.
what do you use? Many Python testing tools like nose are just test
> *runners*, s
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Chris Barker wrote:
> anyway, that's enough ranting.
>
Got carried away with the ranting, and didn't flesh out my point.
My point is that unittest is a very static, not very pythonic framework --
if you are productive with it, great, but I don't think it's w
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 06:20:50PM -0400, rym...@gmail.com wrote:
> TBH you're completely right. Every time I see someone using unittest
> andItsHorriblyUnpythonicNames, I want to kill a camel.
If your only complaint about unittest is that
you_miss_writing_underscores_between_all_the_words, then
Knowing nothing about the JavaScript ecosystem (other than that leftpad is
apparently not a joke and everything needs more jQuery), what are the
leagues-above testing libraries?
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:20 PM, rym...@gmail.com wrote:
> TBH you're completely right. Every time I see someone using
TBH you're completely right. Every time I see someone using unittest
andItsHorriblyUnpythonicNames, I want to kill a camel.
Sometimes, though, I feel like part of the struggle is the alternative. If
you dislike unittest, but pytest is too "magical" for you, what do you use?
Many Python testing too
** Caution: cranky curmudgeonly opinionated comment ahead: **
unitest is such an ugly Java-esque static mess of an API that there's
really no point in trying to clean it up and make it more pythonic -- go
off and use pytest and be happier.
-CHB
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:42 AM, Nick Coghlan w
On 22 August 2017 at 15:34, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 21 August 2017 at 11:32, Neil Girdhar wrote:
>> This question describes an example of the problem:
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8416208/in-python-is-there-a-good-idiom-for-using-context-managers-in-setup-teardown.
>> You want to invok
Neil, you might also bring this up on the
http://lists.idyll.org/listinfo/testing-in-python list as I suspect people
there have opinions on this topic.
-gps
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:07 AM Ned Batchelder
wrote:
> On 8/20/17 9:32 PM, Neil Girdhar wrote:
>
> This question describes an example of
On 8/20/17 9:32 PM, Neil Girdhar wrote:
> This question describes an example of the
> problem:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8416208/in-python-is-there-a-good-idiom-for-using-context-managers-in-setup-teardown.
> You want to invoke a context manager in your setup/tearing-down, but
> the e
This question describes an example of the
problem:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8416208/in-python-is-there-a-good-idiom-for-using-context-managers-in-setup-teardown.
You want to invoke a context manager in your setup/tearing-down, but the
easiest way to do that is to override run, whic
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