On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 08:28:05AM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Personally, I'd like to remind you that when I designed Python my ideal was
to use punctuation in ways that are similar to the way it is used in plain
English, with exceptions only for forms commonly found in many other
Thank you Roland, for that idea!
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 01:52:48PM +0100, Roland Puntaier via Python-ideas
wrote:
On Mon 21Mar15 22:24, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Roland Puntaier via Python-ideas writes:
Aesthetic Concern: No
=
It might seem an aesthetic concern,
but I
Hi,
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 15:12, Paul Moore wrote:
> This layout style is not something I've ever seen used in "real life",
> and I don't think it's something that should be encouraged, much less
> added to the language.
> More likely because there are two common schools of thought - lists
>
On 3/16/21 8:22 AM, Roland Puntaier via Python-ideas wrote:
> On Mon 21Mar15 15:18, Paul Bryan wrote:
>> On Mon, 2021-03-15 at 11:13 +0100, Roland Puntaier via Python-ideas
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I hesitate to call this proposal a language change. It is rather a
>>> syntactic allowance, like that of the
Hi Roland,
Can you please give up on this particular idea? You've given it a fair try,
and nobody is showing any interest in changing Python to match your
proposal. That's usually a good indication that it will Never Happen, and
if you keep arguing beyond that point you tend to be written off as
On 3/16/21 8:22 AM, Roland Puntaier via Python-ideas wrote:
I'd like to write
def my_long_function_name(
, my_long_option_2 = "some default expression 1".split()
, my_long_option_1 = "some default expression 1".split()
):
pass
Why not write this instead?:
def
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021, 06:15 Roland Puntaier via Python-ideas <
python-ideas@python.org> wrote:
> On Fri 21Mar12 14:27, Paul Bryan wrote:
> >It seems your proposal is intended to address an aesthetic concern. Is
> >there a case where using a leading comma would make something
> >actually easier or
On 3/12/2021 4:42 PM, Paul Bryan wrote:
Using your example (thanks, seeing a concrete example is helpful) it
appears you can do it the SQL way in Python too:
x = (1
,2
,3
)
Right. It's just that no one would want to!
Eric
On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 16:35 -0500, Eric V. Smith wrote:
On
Using your example (thanks, seeing a concrete example is helpful) it
appears you can do it the SQL way in Python too:
x = (1
,2
,3
)
On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 16:35 -0500, Eric V. Smith wrote:
> On 3/12/2021 3:37 PM, Greg Ewing wrote:
> > On 13/03/21 5:02 am, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> > > I think the
On 3/12/2021 3:37 PM, Greg Ewing wrote:
On 13/03/21 5:02 am, Ned Batchelder wrote:
I think the only reason anyone ever used leading commas to begin with
was because of languages that didn't allow a final trailing comma.
In those worlds, to keep the editing smooth, people moved the commas
to
On 13/03/21 5:02 am, Ned Batchelder wrote:
I think the only reason anyone ever used leading commas to begin with
was because of languages that didn't allow a final trailing comma. In
those worlds, to keep the editing smooth, people moved the commas to the
beginning of the line,
Which
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 3:28 AM <2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com> wrote:
> For exmaple, if I have a multiline list like this:
>
> x = [
> 1,
> 2
> ]
>
> and add a new element to the end, then I end up with the diff including
> the 2 even though I didn't change
On 2021-03-12 at 11:02:50 -0500,
Ned Batchelder wrote:
> I think the only reason anyone ever used leading commas to begin with
> was because of languages that didn't allow a final trailing comma. In
> those worlds, to keep the editing smooth, people moved the commas to
> the beginning of the
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 16:06, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>
> I think the only reason anyone ever used leading commas to begin with was
> because of languages that didn't allow a final trailing comma. In those
> worlds, to keep the editing smooth, people moved the commas to the beginning
> of the
I think the only reason anyone ever used leading commas to begin with
was because of languages that didn't allow a final trailing comma. In
those worlds, to keep the editing smooth, people moved the commas to the
beginning of the line, breaking with every comma-tradition.
I don't see a
It seems your proposal is intended to address an aesthetic concern. Is
there a case where using a leading comma would make something
actually easier or more intuitive to express over the use of trailing
comma?
On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 10:34 +, roland.puntaier--- via Python-ideas
wrote:
> I had
On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 13:22, roland.puntaier--- via Python-ideas
wrote:
>
> I had posted this as https://github.com/python/peps/issues/1867
> The discussion so far is below.
>
> Please make some arguments.
>
> The major point to me is, that the symmetry is broken,
> which leads to extra editing
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