Ron_Adam wrote:
Ok, that post may have a few(dozen?) problems in it. I got glitched
by idles not clearing variables between runs, so it worked for me
because it was getting values from a previous run.
This should work better, fixed a few things, too.
The decorators can now take more than one argu
* "lothar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no - in the non-greedy regex
> <1st-pat>*?
>
> <1st-pat>, and are arbitrarily complex patterns.
The "not" is the problem. Regex patterns are expressed positive by
definition (meaning, you can say, what you expect, but not what you
don't expect). In oth
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Raghul a écrit :
hi
I am having a problem. I want to copy a file from the folder and
paste it or move it to another folder. Is it possible in python?
Actually I need to implement this in the zope for my site. When I click
any file it should move or copied to another folder in the same machine
us
Why is that some of my files written out by
outF.write(outtext.encode('utf-8'))
has ascii 10 as EOL, while others has ascii 13 as EOL?
both of these files's EOL are originally all ascii 10.
If i remove the EOL after the tt below in the place string, then this
doesn't happen.
findreplace = [
(u
Grant Edwards wrote:
> For large files, something like this is probably a better idea:
Or with the little-used shutil module, and keeping your
nomenclature and block size of 65536
import shutil
fout = file('C', 'wb')
for n in ['A', 'B']:
fin = file(n, 'rb')
shutil.copyfileobj(fin, fout, 65536
Is it possible to monitor a folder in the python?My question is if I
put any file in it that particular folder my script should monitor the
folder and read the file name.If so what function can I use?
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:13:29 GMT, Ron_Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 23:59:51 +0200, "Martin v. Löwis"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Ron_Adam wrote:
>>> This would be the same without the nesting:
>>>
>>> def foo(xx):
>>> global x
>>> x = xx
>>> return fee
>>>
Hi again, If anyone is reading this.
Fixed the endless loop when stacking the same decorator instance. You
can now reuse the same exact decorator object either in stacks or on
different functions with different arguments.
The only quirk left is if you stack the same decorator object, and
have
hi
I am having a problem. I want to copy a file from the folder and
paste it or move it to another folder. Is it possible in python?
Actually I need to implement this in the zope for my site. When I click
any file it should move or copied to another folder in the same machine
using zope.
Thanks
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Thank Grant, it works well.
On Apr 5, 2005 10:54 AM, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2005-04-05, could ildg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > I want to merge file A and file B into a new file C, All of
> >> > them are binary.
> >>
> >> file('C','wb').write(file('A','rb').read()+file(
Stewart Midwinter wrote:
hi all:
I'm a python user in my day job. Now I want to take on a personal pet
project which will involve the creation of a website on my home
server. I'll want to keep track of users through user accounts and
logins, allow them to upload information to a database (maybe my
David Handy wrote:
I had a program fail on me today because the following didn't work as I
expected:
class C:
... def f(self):
... pass
...
c = C()
m = c.f
m is c.f
False
I would have expected that if I set a variable equal to a bound method, that
variable, for all intents and purposes
Stewart Midwinter wrote:
> I would like to take a stab at doing this in Python instead of PHP,
> but I'd like to hear from people who are familiar with both, or who
> have a good understanding of web application toolkits in Python.
> Which is likely to be the least painful route?
>
> I'm already
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 03:38:09PM +1200, Tony Meyer wrote:
> [David Handy]
> > I had a program fail on me today because the following didn't
> > work as I expected:
> >
> > >>> class C:
> > ... def f(self):
> > ... pass
> > ...
> > >>> c = C()
> > >>> m = c.f
> > >>> m is c.f
> > Fal
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:34:41 -0400, David Handy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the best way. But it might work.
for method, params in deferred:
method(*params)
try:
if method.im_func is c.f.im_func:
# handle a special case
except:
if
David Handy wrote:
I had a program fail on me today because the following didn't work as I
expected:
class C:
... def f(self):
... pass
...
c = C()
m = c.f
m is c.f
False
I would have expected that if I set a variable equal to a bound method, that
variable, for all intents and purposes
[David Handy]
> I had a program fail on me today because the following didn't
> work as I expected:
>
> >>> class C:
> ... def f(self):
> ... pass
> ...
> >>> c = C()
> >>> m = c.f
> >>> m is c.f
> False
[...]
> The workaround really awkward:
What's wrong with this?
>>> class C:
...
I had a program fail on me today because the following didn't work as I
expected:
>>> class C:
... def f(self):
... pass
...
>>> c = C()
>>> m = c.f
>>> m is c.f
False
I would have expected that if I set a variable equal to a bound method, that
variable, for all intents and purposes,
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> Does anyone have a python implementation (or python C/C+ extension) that
> would allow me to perform set operations (union, intersection,
> difference,
> number of elements, &c) over very large collections of integer
On 2005-04-05, could ildg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I want to merge file A and file B into a new file C, All of
>> > them are binary.
>>
>> file('C','wb').write(file('A','rb').read()+file('B','rb').read())
>
> Python is really magic, even merge file can use "+".
You probably shouldn't use t
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> Does anyone have a python implementation (or python C/C+ extension) that
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> difference,
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Jeff Epler wrote:
> The iterator for files is a little bit like this generator function:
>
Cool thanks for that, it looks like iter(f.readline, '') is the best
solution for the job.
Tom
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Robert Kern wrote:
I use PROJ.4 via pipes for cartographic projections.
http://proj.maptools.org/
There is an addon to the matplotlib plotting library that contains a
binding for the PROJ.4 library, but I haven't gotten it to work on my Mac.
http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/toolkits.html
Jus
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Thank you!
Python is really magic, even merge file can use "+".
On Apr 5, 2005 9:20 AM, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2005-04-05, could ildg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I want to merge file A and file B into a new file C, All of
> > them are binary.
>
> file('C','wb').write(
Stewart Midwinter wrote:
I would like to do some image / map manipulation with Python.
I've got a very large map file in .png format. My thought is to chop
it up into small tiles using some method. What Python module would be
helpful for this?
The PIL. I'm not sure how well it handles files of y
On 2005-04-05, could ildg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to merge file A and file B into a new file C, All of
> them are binary.
file('C','wb').write(file('A','rb').read()+file('B','rb').read())
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[Dan Stromberg]
> Does anyone have a python implementation (or python C/C+ extension) that
> would allow me to perform set operations (union, intersection, difference,
> number of elements, &c) over very large collections of integers?
>
> Some of the sets may have over 10**11 (probably less than 10
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In short, how might I go about deleting just the contents of a file?
File objects have a truncate() method which chops the file
back to zero length (or a length that you specify).
But why not just delete the file? You can always
create another one with the same name later i
I want to merge file A and file B into a new file C,
All of them are binary.
How to do that?
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I would like to do some image / map manipulation with Python.
I've got a very large map file in .png format. My thought is to chop
it up into small tiles using some method. What Python module would be
helpful for this?
Next, when I obtain the start and end co-ordinates of a user's trip,
I'd lik
I had similar problems with Gnuplot.py, basically, one couldn't use ascii
mode for plotting grid data, and had to set binary=1 in the GridData()
method. (this is off the top of my head, so I might have the binary/ascii
thing the wrong way around). What fixed the problem was going to version
Gnup
> > Use a genexp when you need a generator
> > and use a listcomp when you need a list.
[Steven Bethard]
> So do I read this right in preferring
> [ for in ]
> over
> list( for in )
Yes!
Raymond
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"syd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't even know where to begin. This is just bizarre. I just picked
> up the Gnuplot.py module (a light interface to gnuplot commands) and
> was messing around with it today.
>
> I've got a tiny script, but it only works from the command line about
> half th
Ok... it's works! :)
So what do you think?
Look at the last stacked example, it process the preprocess's first in
forward order, then does the postprocess's in reverse order. Which
might be usefull. Interesting in any case.
Making decorators with this class is a snap!
Any thoughts? Any imp
--- John Ridley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> blurted:
> I suppose the simplest thing to do would be to write an empty string
> to the file:
>
> >>> f = open('tmpfile.txt', 'w')
> >>> f.write('')
> >>> f.close() # or f.flush(), if keeping open
Apologies - this is, of course, nonsense.
Time for me to hi
Check out http://pyre.third-bit.com/pyweb/index.html
Grig
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said unto the world upon 2005-04-04 19:39:
I want the "engine" to read the file, write its contents to another
temporary file (for now it just writes the contents; later it will
format it before writing the contents) and then deletes the *contents*
of the temporary file after pri
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In short, how might I go about deleting just the contents of a file?
> I tried several methods with my limited knowledge but had no luck.
I suppose the simplest thing to do would be to write an empty string to
the file:
>>> f = open('tmpfile.txt', 'w')
>>> f.write
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2005-04-04 16:39:27 -0700:
> In short, how might I go about deleting just the contents of a file?
> I tried several methods with my limited knowledge but had no luck.
fd = open("your-file")
fd.truncate()
fd.close()
or open("your-file", "w").close()
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hi all:
I'm a python user in my day job. Now I want to take on a personal pet
project which will involve the creation of a website on my home
server. I'll want to keep track of users through user accounts and
logins, allow them to upload information to a database (maybe mySQL or
SqLite), and in t
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeremy Bowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 22:50:35 +, John J. Lee wrote:
> > What I don't understand about py.test (and trying it out seems
> > unlikely to answer this) is why it uses the assert statement.
> > unittest used to do that, too,
Tim Lesher wrote:
I recently had reason to look up Chaco again, but after searching the
SciPy and Enthought websites, I see it seems to have gone missing.
Looking over c.l.p, I can find only one quasi-recent message from Eric
about at, from almost a year ago:
Chaco has moved to a new package. We
"Dan Stromberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>
> Does anyone have a python implementation (or python C/C+ extension) that
> would allow me to perform set operations (union, intersection,
> difference,
> number of elements, &c) over very large collections of integer
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
I'm not aware of any other tool that solves that specific problem.
notepad does a fine job at creating batch files, IMO.
Of course, it is not all that clear what the OP actually wanted.
For all we know, he wanted to "alternate quickly (with batch
file or similary) between pytho
py.test intercepts the assert statements before they are optimized
away. It's part of the profuse "magic" that py.test does.
Grig
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Jeremy Bowers said unto the world upon 2005-04-04 17:26:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:02:20 -0400, Brian van den Broek wrote:
Jeremy suggested using a directory name akin to
"C:\onlyanidiotwouldhavethisdirecotrynameonadrive". That is what I had
settled on before I posted. Somehow it feels unhappy and i
Bob Then wrote:
> how can i change all files from one extension to another within a
direcory?
This should work:
import os
def change_exts(suffix, new_suffix, dir_name):
for name in os.listdir(dir_name):
if name.endswith(suffix):
old_pathname = os.path.join(dir_name, name)
[runes]
> You have sets in Python 2.3x and 2.4x. I don't know if they can handle
> your amounts of data, but i guess so.
The original poster (OP) spoke about 10**13 numbers, if I remember
correctly (I did not keep the original message). It all depends on the
real sparsity of the spare sets! :-)
I have recently started to use Python to develop a new version of my
website.
I'm working on a sort of "web engine" that takes the contents of a
standardized file format I have designed and then outputs it using
templates created by me.
However, I'm only at the very beginning (i.e. opening and re
Bob Then wrote:
how can i change all files from one extension to another within a direcory?
Using os.listdir, os.path.split and os.rename.
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* Franz Steinhäusler wrote:
> I have successfully installed pyqt, but not
> qtext, which I need to run Eric3.
> The PyQT demo files run fine.
>
> I've downloaded QScintilla, compiled via MS-VC,
> but (I suppose I need the SIG), to translate or provide
> the Python interface with pyd Files.
>
>
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 22:50:35 +, John J. Lee wrote:
> What I don't understand about py.test (and trying it out seems
> unlikely to answer this) is why it uses the assert statement.
> unittest used to do that, too, but then it was pointed out that that
> breaks when python -O is used, so unittest
Are you on NFS or are you using a raid? This may have to do with the time it
takes to access your files, etc.
On Monday 04 April 2005 02:23 pm, syd wrote:
> I don't even know where to begin. This is just bizarre. I just picked
> up the Gnuplot.py module (a light interface to gnuplot commands) a
Thanks for the link, but this is the step I am trying to save (for someone
else). Every time he goes to run a report, he must stop and import any new
csv files. Since the files are generated by a Python script, I thought I
could just insert them into his table and save him some steps. I'm also just
You have sets in Python 2.3x and 2.4x. I don't know if they can handle
your amounts of data, but i guess so.
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"Raymond Hettinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [Peter Hansen]
> > (I'm not dissing py.test, and intend to check it
> > out.
>
> Not to be disrepectful, but objections raised by someone
> who hasn't worked with both tools equate to hot air.
[...]
Why? Peter had a reasonable question which, AF
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Heiko Wundram
wrote:
> Am Montag, 4. April 2005 21:59 schrieb GujuBoy:
>> how can i do this...and hopefully without including any external
>> modules.
>
> It depends.
>
> Under *NIX, have a look at the curses module.
>
> Under Windows, Google for ANSI.SYS and read up on
You may want to take a look at this link. It should
be much faster than any programmatic technique.
http://www.its.niu.edu/its/CSupport/tipoftheweek/tip_080502.shtml
If you still want to do it programmatically, you will need to
look at csv module to parse the lines.
Larry Bates
3c273 wrote:
Francesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Il Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:36:24 -0800, narke ha scritto:
>
> > Does anyone here use ClientForm to handle a HTML form on client side?
Yes. :-)
[...]
> > forms = ParseResponse(urlopen(url))
> >
> > form = forms[0]
> > urlopen(form.click("ZoomContr
--- lothar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no - in the non-greedy regex
> <1st-pat>*?
>
> <1st-pat>, and are arbitrarily complex
> patterns.
Could you post some real-world examples of the problems you are trying
to deal with, please? Trying to come up with general solutions for
arbitrarily comp
Does anyone have a python implementation (or python C/C+ extension) that
would allow me to perform set operations (union, intersection, difference,
number of elements, &c) over very large collections of integers?
Some of the sets may have over 10**11 (probably less than 10**13
though) integers in
Ok, that post may have a few(dozen?) problems in it. I got glitched
by idles not clearing variables between runs, so it worked for me
because it was getting values from a previous run.
This should work better, fixed a few things, too.
The decorators can now take more than one argument.
The fun
On 04/04/2005-04:20PM, lothar wrote:
>
> how then, do i specify a non-greedy regex
> <1st-pat>*?
>
> that is, such that non-greedy part *?
> excludes a match of <1st-pat>
>
jet% cat vwre2.py
#! /usr/bin/env python
import re
vwre = re.compile("V[^V]W")
vwlre = re.compile("V[^V]WL")
if __nam
robin wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >I emailed the O'Reilly webmaster, and the table of contents are now
> >online at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pythoncook2/toc.html and
also
> >listed below.
>
> Unfortunately there is no list of authors for the sections in the
> book. This is likely it
"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> Of course that statement is also false. Performance prediction is very
> difficult, and you cannot imply much from this benchmark. In other
[...]
s/imply/infer/
John
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Hello,
I have a really simple Access database table with a format similar to this:
CustomerName - ProductOrdered - QtyOrdered
I have a CSV file with the appropriate values as follows:
Customer1, Widget1, 1000
Customer2, Widget2, 3000
etc
I have figured out how to insert the data manually from the
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> I just found PyCheckbook, but it does not support check printing.
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:02:20 -0400, Brian van den Broek wrote:
> Jeremy suggested using a directory name akin to
> "C:\onlyanidiotwouldhavethisdirecotrynameonadrive". That is what I had
> settled on before I posted. Somehow it feels unhappy and inelegant.
> But, I'm a bit less uncomfortable with
I don't even know where to begin. This is just bizarre. I just picked
up the Gnuplot.py module (a light interface to gnuplot commands) and
was messing around with it today.
I've got a tiny script, but it only works from the command line about
half the time! In the python interpreter, 100%. Ip
Am Montag, 4. April 2005 21:59 schrieb GujuBoy:
> how can i do this...and hopefully without including any external
> modules.
It depends.
Under *NIX, have a look at the curses module.
Under Windows, Google for ANSI.SYS and read up on Escape Sequences, or check
out the curses for Windows impleme
Raymond Hettinger wrote:
[Steven Bethard]
and I often find myself alternating
between the two when I can't decide which one seems more Pythonic.
Both are pythonic.
Use a genexp when you need a generator
and use a listcomp when you need a list.
So do I read this right in preferring
[ for in ]
o
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 03:05, Michael Husmann wrote:
> Carsten Haese wrote:
>
> > Hello everybody:
> >
> > I have discovered that the functionality for connecting Python to an
> > Informix database is currently in a frustrating state of neglect. The
> > link to Kinfxdb is dead, and informixdb does
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Hi all,
I'm just starting to employ unit testing (I'm using doctest), and I am
uncertain how to handle writing tests where the behaviour being tested is
dependant on whether certain file paths point to actual file
Hello,
I have a piece of code that gets run in a script that has its stdout
closed:
import sys
sys.stdout = sys.stderr
c = subprocess.Popen (...,
stdin = subprocess.PIPE,
stdout = subprocess.PIPE,
stderr =
Maurice LING wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
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Say I code my stuffs in Jython (importing java libraries) in a file
"text.py"
Just to be clear, Jython is not a separate langague that you code
*in*, but a separate implementation
Scott David Daniels wrote:
Sunnan wrote:
...Because what is "boring"? The opposite of dense, tense, intense.
Utterly predictable; it's like the combination of all my prejudices.
Even before I knew, I thought "Bet Python separates statements from
expressions".
Python is for terse, pithy prose; P
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Wax
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might or mi
Hi, Thanks again for all the helping me understand the details of
decorators.
I put together a class to create decorators that could make them a lot
easier to use.
It still has a few glitches in it that needs to be addressed.
(1) The test for the 'function' object needs to not test for a s
well, top.transient(root) will ensure your toplevel window is on top of
all others.
IIRC, you could also use top.grab_set() to make it modal, but you'll
have to try it and see.
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Peter Otten wrote:
and now typing e. g.
> pym os.path
> in the address bar immediately brings up that module's documentation.
>
> Peter
Nice one! Thanks.
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Martin,
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 03:46:58PM +0200, Martin Magnusson wrote:
> I'm trying to build PIL under Cygwin (for use with the Skencil vector
> graphics program), and I couldn't find a better forum for questions
> than this.
>
> I'm using Python 2.3.4, and when I run "python setup.py build_ex
no - in the non-greedy regex
<1st-pat>*?
<1st-pat>, and are arbitrarily complex patterns.
with character classes and negative character classes you do not need
non-greediness anyway.
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> --- lothar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 2005-04-04, GujuBoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so i am writing a program in Python and i want to print out a few
> statements in Different colors
>
> for example "Print hello world in RED, and "GOOD BYE in blue" "
>
> how can i do this...
Depends on what you're printing on.
tty?
curses
so i am writing a program in Python and i want to print out a few
statements in Different colors
for example "Print hello world in RED, and "GOOD BYE in blue" "
how can i do this...and hopefully without including any external
modules.
thanks in advance
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this is very useful, thanks very much!
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Bill Mill wrote:
On Apr 4, 2005 11:10 AM, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tim Jarman wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am a beginner using the python interpreter. To reduce typing effort,
I created a module called "aliases.py" containing some aliases for
objects I commonly use like -
a
We found the answer, just in case one was looking for it...
I turns out that setting the environment params (CGI_PATH & CGI_LD_LIB_PATH)
is not sufficient. One has to still add the path entry to the script
itself... like so: #! /python2.4
May also work with ensuring env variable PYTHONPATH is set
[Steven Bethard]
> and I often find myself alternating
> between the two when I can't decide which one seems more Pythonic.
Both are pythonic.
Use a genexp when you need a generator
and use a listcomp when you need a list.
Raymond Hettinger
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with respect to the documentation, the module is broken.
the module does not necessarily deliver a "minimal length" match for a
non-greedy pattern.
"Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "lothar" wrote:
>
> > this is a bug and it needs to be fixed.
>
> it's
Am Montag, 4. April 2005 20:54 schrieb John Ridley:
> The OP mentioned that urpmi couldn't find a package by that name. So it
> might be worth querying for "libpython" if that fails:
This is why why I don't use a binary distribution... :-) (Differences in)
Naming makes getting at devel-packages a
Am Montag, 4. April 2005 21:27 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Google for:
Python Remote Objects
or
Python XMLRPC
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I recently had reason to look up Chaco again, but after searching the
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Looking over c.l.p, I can find only one quasi-recent message from Eric
about at, from almost a year ago:
> Chaco has moved to a new package. We hope to have it
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