ANN: SPE 0.8.0.b Python IDE (new: Mac support, doc viewer and workspaces)

2005-12-02 Thread spe . stani . be
:**What's new?**: SPE 'Kay release' 0.8.0.b This release is a major step forward for all platforms, especially for MacOS X. It offers you basic project management through workspaces (thanks to Thurston Stone), an improved sidebar and pydoc viewer. This is the first release which is also

Flightdeck-UI Online Version 0.4.0 (Stable) Released

2005-12-02 Thread George Belotsky
The goal of the Flightdeck-UI project is to apply ideas from aircraft instrumentation design to general purpose user interfaces. Flightdeck-UI Online version 0.4.0 is the latest stable release of the Web-based dashboard/monitoring system based on these concepts. Here is the list of changes from

Re: [[x,f(x)] for x in list that maximizes f(x)] --newbie help

2005-12-02 Thread Bengt Richter
On 1 Dec 2005 05:45:54 -0800, Niels L Ellegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just started learning python and I have been wondering. Is there a short pythonic way to find the element, x, of a list, mylist, that maximizes an expression f(x). In other words I am looking for a short version of the

Re: super() and multiple inheritance

2005-12-02 Thread Michele Simionato
Hermy: So, for the moment my conclusion is that although Python has some syntax for multiple inheritance, it doesn't support it very well, and I should probably stick to single inheritance. This is not much a problem of Python, the problem is that multiple inheritance is intrinsically HARD to

Re: ANN: Louie-1.0b2 - Signal dispatching mechanism

2005-12-02 Thread Thomas Heller
Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas Heller wrote: What is the difference between PyDispatcher and Louie? (I'm still using a hacked version of the original cookbook recipe...) Not too much at this point, but the general differences are listed on this page:

Re: [[x,f(x)] for x in list that maximizes f(x)] --newbie help

2005-12-02 Thread Duncan Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. In that case, would it be easier to understand(beside the original iterative loop) if I use reduce and lambda ? You could try putting them side by side and seeing which is easiest for someone to understand: reduce(lambda (mv,mx), (v,x): mv v and (mv,mx) or

Re: Instances behaviour

2005-12-02 Thread Peter Otten
Mr.Rech wrote: Suppose I have a bunch of classes that represent slightly (but conceptually) different object. The instances of each class must behave in very similar manner, so that I've created a common class ancestor (let say A) that define a lot of special method (such as __getattr__,

Re: Is Python string immutable?

2005-12-02 Thread Martin Franklin
Chris Mellon wrote: On 11/30/05, could ildg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In java and C# String is immutable, str=str+some more will return a new string and leave some gargabe. so in java and C# if there are some frequent string operation, StringBuilder/StringBuffer is recommanded. Will string

Re: General question about Python design goals

2005-12-02 Thread Duncan Booth
Alex Martelli wrote: Yep -- time tuples have also become pseudo-tuples (each element can be accessed by name as well as by index) a while ago, and I believe there's one more example besides stats and times (but I can't recall which one). Apart from time and os.stat all the uses seem to be

Re: Is there no compression support for large sized strings in Python?

2005-12-02 Thread Claudio Grondi
Gerald Klix [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you consider the mmap library? Perhaps it is possible to avoid to hold these big stings in memory. BTW: AFAIK it is not possible in 32bit windows for an ordinary programm to allocate more than 2 GB. That

Re: Is Python string immutable?

2005-12-02 Thread Steve Holden
could ildg wrote: In java and C# String is immutable, str=str+some more will return a new string and leave some gargabe. so in java and C# if there are some frequent string operation, StringBuilder/StringBuffer is recommanded. Will string operation in python also leave some garbage? I

Re: Instances behaviour

2005-12-02 Thread bruno at modulix
Inyeol Lee wrote: (snip) class A(object): ... def __init__(self, foo): ... if self.__class__ is A: ... raise TypeError(A is base class.) s/TypeError/NotImplementedError/ s/base class/abstract class/ -- bruno desthuilliers python -c print

Re: Death to tuples!

2005-12-02 Thread Antoon Pardon
On 2005-12-01, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2005-12-01, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know what happens, I would like to know, why they made this choice. One could argue that the expression for

Re: Instances behaviour

2005-12-02 Thread Mr.Rech
Thanks for your suggestions. They are very usefull and indeed bypass my problem. However, I've found a (perhaps) more elegant way to get the same result using metaclasses. My idea is to define my classes as follows: class meta_A(type): def __new__(cls, classname, bases, classdict):

Re: Problem cmpiling M2Crypto

2005-12-02 Thread Thomas G. Apostolou
Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas G. Apostolou wrote: I still get the error: SWIG/_m2crypto.c(80) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'Python.h': No such file or directory error: command 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual

Re: Compiling Guppy-PE extension modules

2005-12-02 Thread Sverker Nilsson
Claudio Grondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but the problem with sets.c remains: C:\VisualC++NET2003\Vc7\bin\cl.exe /c /nologo /Ox /MD /W3 /G7 /GX /DNDEBUG -IE:\Python24\include -IE:\Python24\PC /Tcsrc/sets/sets.c /Fobuild\temp.win32-2.4\Re lease\src/sets/sets.obj sets.c src\sets\sets.c(68) :

Re: Instances behaviour

2005-12-02 Thread Peter Otten
Mr.Rech wrote: Thanks for your suggestions. They are very usefull and indeed bypass my problem. However, I've found a (perhaps) more elegant way to get the same result using metaclasses. My idea is to define my classes as follows: class meta_A(type): def __new__(cls, classname,

Re: Compiling Guppy-PE extension modules

2005-12-02 Thread Claudio Grondi
Sverker Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Claudio Grondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but the problem with sets.c remains: C:\VisualC++NET2003\Vc7\bin\cl.exe /c /nologo /Ox /MD /W3 /G7 /GX /DNDEBUG -IE:\Python24\include -IE:\Python24\PC

Re: Need help on designing a project

2005-12-02 Thread Steve Holden
Mardy wrote: Hi all, I'm starting to think the way I've implemented my program (http://www.mardy.it/eligante) is all wrong. Basically, what I want is a web application, which might run as CGI scripts in apache (and this is working) or even as a standalone application, in which case it

Re: Instances behaviour

2005-12-02 Thread bruno at modulix
Mr.Rech wrote: Thanks for your suggestions. They are very usefull and indeed bypass my problem. However, I've found a (perhaps) more elegant way to get the same result using metaclasses. (snip code) I know metaclasses are a complete different beast, anyway I find this approach more

How to creat a file?

2005-12-02 Thread sandorf
I'm new to python. Have a simple question. open function can only open an existing file and raise a IOerror when the given file does not exist. How can I creat a new file then? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Import path for unit tests

2005-12-02 Thread Ben Finney
Howdy all, My practice when writing unit tests for a project is to make 'test/' subdirectories for each directory containing modules I want to test. project-foo/ +-- lib/ | +-- test/ +-- data/ +-- gui/ | +-- test/ +-- server/ +-- test/ This means that I

Re: Problem cmpiling M2Crypto under Plone

2005-12-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Thomas G. Apostolou wrote: So what you say is that the Python installed with Plone doesn't have Python.h in ./include but Python installers from Python.org do have the file? that's likely, given building didn't work for you. after all, Plone's an application that happens to include a Python

Re: python speed

2005-12-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DecInt's division algorithm is completely general also. But I would never claim that Python code is faster than assembler. I believe that careful implementation of a good algorithm is more important than the raw speed of the language or efficiency of the compiler.

Re: How to creat a file?

2005-12-02 Thread Laurent RAHUEL
sandorf wrote: I'm new to python. Have a simple question. open function can only open an existing file and raise a IOerror when the given file does not exist. How can I creat a new file then? fic = open('test.txt', 'w') fic.write('Hello world') fic.close() --

Re: How to creat a file?

2005-12-02 Thread Wolfram Kraus
sandorf wrote: I'm new to python. Have a simple question. open function can only open an existing file and raise a IOerror when the given file does not exist. How can I creat a new file then? open the new file in write mode: open('foo', 'w') See: help(open) HTH, Wolfram --

Re: How to creat a file?

2005-12-02 Thread Juho Schultz
sandorf wrote: I'm new to python. Have a simple question. open function can only open an existing file and raise a IOerror when the given file does not exist. How can I creat a new file then? You already have two correct answers. A warning: if you open a existing file for writing, it is

Re: How to creat a file?

2005-12-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
sandorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm new to python. Have a simple question. open function can only open an existing file and raise a IOerror when the given file does not exist. How can I creat a new file then? reading the documentation might help: help(open) class file(object) |

Re: Death to tuples!

2005-12-02 Thread Antoon Pardon
On 2005-12-02, Bengt Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Dec 2005 09:24:30 GMT, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-11-30, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antoon Pardon wrote: The left one is equivalent to: __anon = [] def Foo(l): ... Foo(__anon) Foo(__anon)

Re: aligning a set of word substrings to sentence

2005-12-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Steven Bethard wrote: I feel like there should be a simpler solution (maybe with the re module?) but I can't figure one out. Any suggestions? using the finditer pattern I just posted in another thread: tokens = ['She', 's, 'gon', 'na', 'write', 'a', 'book', '?'] text = '''\ She's gonna

Re: CGI module does not parse data

2005-12-02 Thread Mardy
Le die Thu, 01 Dec 2005 15:08:14 -0800, amfr ha scribite: I have included some of the content of that file, I am writing this as an extension to my ebserver which is based on BaseHTTPServer. This part of the code was taken directly from the CGIHTTPServer file, nothing changed I did the

Re: Import path for unit tests

2005-12-02 Thread Duncan Booth
Ben Finney wrote: This works, so long as the foomodule is *not* in the path before the appended '..' directory. When writing unit tests for a development version of a package that is already installed at an older version in the Python path, this fails: the unit tests are not importing the

why use #!/usr/bin/env python rather than #!python?

2005-12-02 Thread Adriano Ferreira
Many Python scripts I see start with the shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python What is the difference from using just #!python Regards, Adriano. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: (newbie) N-uples from list of lists

2005-12-02 Thread Martin Miller
I'd be interested in seeing the one liner using reduce you mentioned -- how it might be done that way isn't obvious to me. Another aspect of Taschuk's solution I like and think is important is the fact that it is truly iterative in the sense that calling it returns a generator which will yield

Re: How to creat a file?

2005-12-02 Thread sandorf
Thank to you all, guys. Here's another question: I'm using the Windows version of Python and IDLE. When I debug my .py file, my modification to the .py file does not seem to take effect unless I restart IDLE. Saving the file and re-importing it doesn't help either. Where's the problem? --

Re: Why use #!/usr/bin/env python rather than #!python?

2005-12-02 Thread Klaus Alexander Seistrup
Adriano Ferreira wrote: Many Python scripts I see start with the shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python What is the difference from using just #!python #v+ $ ls -l /tmp/hello.py -rwxr-xr-x 1 klaus klaus 38 2005-12-02 14:59 /tmp/hello.py $ cat /tmp/hello.py #! python print 'Hello, world!' #

Re: New Ordered Dictionery to Criticise

2005-12-02 Thread Fuzzyman
Hello Bengt, Bengt Richter wrote: On 1 Dec 2005 03:38:37 -0800, Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuzzyman wrote: Sorry for this hurried message - I've done a new implementation of out ordered dict. This comes out of the discussion on this newsgroup (see blog entry for link to archive

Re: Why use #!/usr/bin/env python rather than #!python?

2005-12-02 Thread Adriano Ferreira
On 12/2/05, Klaus Alexander Seistrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #v+ $ ls -l /tmp/hello.py -rwxr-xr-x 1 klaus klaus 38 2005-12-02 14:59 /tmp/hello.py $ cat /tmp/hello.py #! python print 'Hello, world!' # eof $ /tmp/hello.py bash: /tmp/hello.py: python: bad interpreter: No such file or

Re: why use #!/usr/bin/env python rather than #!python?

2005-12-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Adriano Ferreira wrote: Many Python scripts I see start with the shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python What is the difference from using just #!python $ more test.py #!python print hello $ chmod +x test.py $ ./test.py -bash: ./test.py: python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory /F

Re: XML and namespaces

2005-12-02 Thread uche . ogbuji
Quoting Andrew Kuchling: element = document.createElementNS(DAV:, href) This call is incorrect; the signature is createElementNS(namespaceURI, qualifiedName). Not at all, Andrew. href is a valid qname, as is foo:href. The prefix is optional in a QName. Here is the correct

Why my modification of source file doesn't take effect when debugging?

2005-12-02 Thread sandorf
I'm using the Windows version of Python and IDLE. When I debug my .py file, my modification to the .py file does not seem to take effect unless I restart IDLE. Saving the file and re-importing it doesn't help either. Where's the problem? Thanks. --

Re: Why use #!/usr/bin/env python rather than #!python?

2005-12-02 Thread Klaus Alexander Seistrup
Adriano Ferreira skrev: #v+ $ ls -l /tmp/hello.py -rwxr-xr-x 1 klaus klaus 38 2005-12-02 14:59 /tmp/hello.py $ cat /tmp/hello.py #! python print 'Hello, world!' # eof $ /tmp/hello.py bash: /tmp/hello.py: python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory $ #v- Hey, that's not

Re: Instances behaviour

2005-12-02 Thread Mr.Rech
I see your point. Looking again at my metaclass implementation and comparing it with your abstract class + inheritance approach it turns out that the latter is definetively more straightforward, easier to maintain and all in all more pythonic. Sorry, but being an OOP newbie put me in the position

Re: Why use #!/usr/bin/env python rather than #!python?

2005-12-02 Thread Carsten Haese
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 09:12, Adriano Ferreira wrote: On 12/2/05, Klaus Alexander Seistrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #v+ $ ls -l /tmp/hello.py -rwxr-xr-x 1 klaus klaus 38 2005-12-02 14:59 /tmp/hello.py $ cat /tmp/hello.py #! python print 'Hello, world!' # eof $ /tmp/hello.py

Re: Eclipse best/good or bad IDE for Python?

2005-12-02 Thread Jean-François Doyon
I'm a big fan of Eclipse and reocmmend it to anyone who asks :) No one can say any one is the *best*, since it's a matter of taste, but it's pretty darn good. The main benefit IMO is it's felibility ... Eclipse is a *framework*, that can handle lots things quite well, like HTML (If you're

Re: Why my modification of source file doesn't take effect when debugging?

2005-12-02 Thread Jeremy Jones
sandorf wrote: I'm using the Windows version of Python and IDLE. When I debug my .py file, my modification to the .py file does not seem to take effect unless I restart IDLE. Saving the file and re-importing it doesn't help either. Where's the problem? Thanks. No problem. Just reload()

Setting PYTHONPATH from Makefile

2005-12-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a Makefile target that uses a python script, like: %.abc: %.def python myscript.py The problem is that myscript.py and some modules that myscript.py imports are not in the current directory, but in another place in the filesystem, say, /path/to/stuff. If this was a tcsh script, I

Re: Eclipse best/good or bad IDE for Python?

2005-12-02 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
Hi Chris, I think that you should try it yourself... being the *best ide* is usually a subjective matter, so, you should decide yourself if it is the best IDE for the task you want it to. I must also warn you that I'm its current maintainer, and it is *my* favorite IDE :-) Also, I use it

Re: (newbie) N-uples from list of lists

2005-12-02 Thread bonono
Martin Miller wrote: I'd be interested in seeing the one liner using reduce you mentioned -- how it might be done that way isn't obvious to me. Another aspect of Taschuk's solution I like and think is important is the fact that it is truly iterative in the sense that calling it returns a

Re: an intriguing wifi http server mystery...please help

2005-12-02 Thread Paul Boddie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could the above server-speed assymetry that i spoke of above be caused by this reverse dns lookup? I think so. You stated that you use a fairly simple HTTP server, although that's not exactly specific enough to diagnose the problem, but if that were the standard

Re: Why use #!/usr/bin/env python rather than #!python?

2005-12-02 Thread Adriano Ferreira
On 12/2/05, Carsten Haese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (3) assumes that whatever shell the user is running looks up the shebang executable in the path, which bash, just to name one example, does not do. I think that was the answer I was looking for. So that #!/usr/bin/env python is more portable

Re: Why use #!/usr/bin/env python rather than #!python?

2005-12-02 Thread Klaus Alexander Seistrup
Adriano Ferreira wrote: So that #!/usr/bin/env python is more portable than #! python and that's probably why it worked for me with cygwin/bash but not for Klaus on whatever platform he used. /me is using bash on linux. I agree. Only a very strange Unix-like installation would not have

Re: Ruby on Rails Job Site -- Is there a Python equivalent?

2005-12-02 Thread Paul Boddie
Adrian Holovaty wrote: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DevelopersForHire See the Django-powered jobs section. We could definitely advertise this page more, as it's a bit hidden at the moment on the Django wiki. Don't forget the Python Job Board: http://www.python.org/Jobs.html Yes, it's

Re: [[x,f(x)] for x in list that maximizes f(x)] --newbie help

2005-12-02 Thread Alex Martelli
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... As while DSU is a very smart way to guard the max compare thing, it is still being introduced as a way that is not related to the original problem, i.e. I just want to compare f(x) And that's why in 2.5 you'll just code max(mylist, key=f) to express this intent

Re: Why use #!/usr/bin/env python rather than #!python?

2005-12-02 Thread Adriano Ferreira
On 12/2/05, Klaus Alexander Seistrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /me is using bash on linux. I think that was not a bash issue in my case, but a Cygwin/Win32 issue. Windows has some monstruous oddities in order to assure broken behavior of yesterday is here today in the name of compatibility.

How do you create a custom QCursor in Python Qt?

2005-12-02 Thread Steegg
I am a newcomer to using Python and Qt and the main problem that I have is the dearth of any example code or books describing the use of Python and Qt together. My current problem is that I want to create a custom cursor, from my understanding of it I need to create two QBitmaps, one of which

Re: aligning a set of word substrings to sentence

2005-12-02 Thread Steven Bethard
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Steven Bethard wrote: I feel like there should be a simpler solution (maybe with the re module?) but I can't figure one out. Any suggestions? using the finditer pattern I just posted in another thread: tokens = ['She', 's, 'gon', 'na', 'write', 'a', 'book', '?'] text =

Re: aligning a set of word substrings to sentence

2005-12-02 Thread Steven Bethard
Michael Spencer wrote: Steven Bethard wrote: I've got a list of word substrings (the tokens) which I need to align to a string of text (the sentence). The sentence is basically the concatenation of the token list, with spaces sometimes inserted beetween tokens. I need to determine the

Detect TKinter window being closed?

2005-12-02 Thread Glen
Is it possible to to detect a Tkinter top-level window being closed with the close icon/button (top right), for example to call a function before the window actually closes? Python 2.4 / Linux (2.6 kernel) if that makes any difference. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Glen --

Re: How do you create a custom QCursor in Python Qt?

2005-12-02 Thread Phil Thompson
On Friday 02 December 2005 3:31 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a newcomer to using Python and Qt and the main problem that I have is the dearth of any example code or books describing the use of Python and Qt together. My current problem is that I want to create a custom cursor, from my

Re: Detect TKinter window being closed?

2005-12-02 Thread Adonis
Glen wrote: Is it possible to to detect a Tkinter top-level window being closed with the close icon/button (top right), for example to call a function before the window actually closes? Python 2.4 / Linux (2.6 kernel) if that makes any difference. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Eclipse best/good or bad IDE for Python?

2005-12-02 Thread Aaron Bingham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to move beyond Emacs/Vim/Kate and was wondering if Eclipse is better and if it is the *best* IDE for Python. Should I leave Emacs and do Python coding in Eclipse? I've been a heavy Emacs user for several years, but recently switched to Eclipse for Python

Re: Detect TKinter window being closed?

2005-12-02 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Glen wrote: Is it possible to to detect a Tkinter top-level window being closed with the close icon/button (top right), for example to call a function before the window actually closes? http://effbot.org/tkinterbook/tkinter-events-and-bindings.htm#protocols /F --

Re: aligning a set of word substrings to sentence

2005-12-02 Thread Steven Bethard
Steven Bethard wrote: Michael Spencer wrote: Steven Bethard wrote: I've got a list of word substrings (the tokens) which I need to align to a string of text (the sentence). The sentence is basically the concatenation of the token list, with spaces sometimes inserted beetween tokens.

Re: Is there no compression support for large sized strings in Python?

2005-12-02 Thread Christopher Subich
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Harald Karner wrote: python -c print len('m' * ((2048*1024*1024)-1)) 2147483647 the string type uses the ob_size field to hold the string length, and ob_size is an integer: $ more Include/object.h ... int ob_size; /* Number of items in variable part */

Re: Why my modification of source file doesn't take effect when debugging?

2005-12-02 Thread infidel
I'm using the Windows version of Python and IDLE. When I debug my .py file, my modification to the .py file does not seem to take effect unless I restart IDLE. Saving the file and re-importing it doesn't help either. Where's the problem? import only reads the file the first time it's called.

Re: Why my modification of source file doesn't take effect when debugging?

2005-12-02 Thread Christophe
infidel a écrit : I'm using the Windows version of Python and IDLE. When I debug my .py file, my modification to the .py file does not seem to take effect unless I restart IDLE. Saving the file and re-importing it doesn't help either. Where's the problem? import only reads the file the first

Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Dec 2)

2005-12-02 Thread Cameron Laird
QOTW: Python makes it easy to implement algorithms. - casevh Most of the discussion of immutables here seems to be caused by newcomers wanting to copy an idiom from another language which doesn't have immutable variables. Their real problem is usually with binding, not immutability. - Mike Meyer

Re: Detect TKinter window being closed?

2005-12-02 Thread Glen
Thanks Fredrik and Adonis that's just what I needed, plus a bit more to learn about. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Death to tuples!

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Meyer
Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well there are two possibilities I can think of: 1) arg_default = ... def f(arg = arg_default): ... Yuch. Mostly because it doesn't work: arg_default = ... def f(arg = arg_default): ... arg_default = ... def g(arg = arg_default):

Re: Why use #!/usr/bin/env python rather than #!python?

2005-12-02 Thread Donn Cave
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adriano Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, that's not fair. In your illustration above, does 'python' can be found in the PATH? That is, $ python /tmp/hello.py works? If it does, probably #!/usr/bin/python #!/usr/bin/env python #!python would

Re: Problem cmpiling M2Crypto under Plone

2005-12-02 Thread Thomas G. Apostolou
Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas G. Apostolou wrote: So what you say is that the Python installed with Plone doesn't have Python.h in ./include but Python installers from Python.org do have the file? that's likely, given building didn't work

Re: Eclipse best/good or bad IDE for Python?

2005-12-02 Thread gene tani
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to move beyond Emacs/Vim/Kate and was wondering if Eclipse is better and if it is the *best* IDE for Python. Should I leave Emacs and do Python coding in Eclipse? Chris I'm agnostic; lots of IDE's/editors have buzz, you should learn to use at least a

libxml2 and XPath - Iterate through repeating elements?

2005-12-02 Thread nickheppleston
I'm trying to iterate through repeating elements to extract data using libxml2 but I'm having zero luck - any help would be appreciated. My XML source is similar to the following - I'm trying to extract the line number and product code from the repeating line elements: order xmlns=some-ns

Re: Death to tuples!

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Meyer
Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2005-12-02, Bengt Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Dec 2005 09:24:30 GMT, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-11-30, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antoon Pardon wrote: I think one could argue that since '[]' is normally

Re: Setting PYTHONPATH from Makefile

2005-12-02 Thread François Pinard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a Makefile target that uses a python script, like: %.abc: %.def python myscript.py If this was a tcsh script, I would just do: setenv PYTHONPATH /path/to/stuff python myscript.py but this cannot be done from a Makefile. Use: %.abc: %.def

How to keep Pydoc from listing too much?

2005-12-02 Thread Tony Nelson
How can I tell Pydoc not to list information for some of the base classes? For example, when a class inherits from gtk.Widget, lots of GTK stuff gets added that doesn't really need to be there. Is there some option to Pydoc to tell it to skip some classes? Is there something I can put in my

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-02 Thread JohnBMudd
Here it is again... Python bypassed/discounted because, of all things, scoping by indentation!?!? This used to surprise me. Until I hear more and more otherwise reasonable programmers list this as their number one reason for shunning Python. I gauge design defects by how much after market

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-02 Thread Paul Boddie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is again... Python bypassed/discounted because, of all things, scoping by indentation!?!? [...] Could the PyPy people find some way (I don't how) to eliminate this stumbling block going forward?? No: I believe they could only eliminate it going backward.

Re: How to creat a file?

2005-12-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sandorf wrote: Thank to you all, guys. Here's another question: I'm using the Windows version of Python and IDLE. When I debug my .py file, my modification to the .py file does not seem to take effect unless I restart IDLE. Saving the file and re-importing it doesn't help either. Where's

Re: libxml2 and XPath - Iterate through repeating elements?

2005-12-02 Thread Paul Boddie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to iterate through repeating elements to extract data using libxml2 but I'm having zero luck - any help would be appreciated. Here's how I attempt to solve the problem using libxml2dom [1] (and I imagine others will suggest their own favourite modules, too):

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-02 Thread Dave Hansen
On 2 Dec 2005 10:08:21 -0800 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is again... Python bypassed/discounted because, of all things, scoping by indentation!?!? This used to surprise me. Until I hear more and more otherwise reasonable programmers list this as their number one

Detect Blank DVD or CD in CDROM Drive

2005-12-02 Thread Gregory Piñero
Hi guys, I'm thinking it will take a real expert to do this, probably someone who can use windows API's or directly poll the hardware or some such thing. But if you think you know how then please let me know. I'm trying to write an automation script that will burn an ISO file each night. By the

Re: an intriguing wifi http server mystery...please help

2005-12-02 Thread Paul Boddie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The server runs fast when one computer is the server, but slow when the other computer is the server. How can this be, given that this asymmetry does not exist when both computers are wired. Probably because the way your wireless interfaces are configured may be

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You're not alone. The first thing I do after installing an IDE or programmers editor is to change the configuration to use spaces as identantion. I still don't get why there is still people using real tabs as indentation. -- Paulo Dave Hansen wrote: On 2 Dec 2005 10:08:21 -0800 in

Re: Instances behaviour

2005-12-02 Thread Inyeol Lee
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 10:43:56AM +0100, bruno at modulix wrote: Inyeol Lee wrote: (snip) class A(object): ... def __init__(self, foo): ... if self.__class__ is A: ... raise TypeError(A is base class.) s/TypeError/NotImplementedError/ s/base

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-02 Thread Tony Nelson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 Dec 2005 10:08:21 -0800 in comp.lang.python, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is again... Python bypassed/discounted because, of all things, scoping by indentation!?!? This used to surprise me. Until I hear more

Re: Death to tuples!

2005-12-02 Thread Bengt Richter
On 2 Dec 2005 13:05:43 GMT, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-12-02, Bengt Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Dec 2005 09:24:30 GMT, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-11-30, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antoon Pardon wrote: Personnaly I expect the

unittest.assertRaise and keyword arguments?

2005-12-02 Thread Bo Peng
Dear list, The syntax for using assertRaise is assertRaise(exception, function, para1, para2,...) However, I have a long list of arguments (20) so I would like to test some of them using keyword arguments (use default for others). Is there a way to do this except for manually try...except?

Re: How to list currently defined classes, methods etc

2005-12-02 Thread Deep
I have been looking a bit and am stuck at this point. Given a string, how do i find what is the string bound to. Let me give an example. def deep(): print Hello now inspect.ismethod(deep) returns true. (As it should). But if I am trying to make a list of all bound methods), i use dir(),

Re: XML and namespaces

2005-12-02 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On 2 Dec 2005 06:16:29 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. Minidom implements level 2 (thus the NS at the end of the method name), which means that its APIs should all be namespace aware. The bug is that writexml() and thus toxml() are not so. Hm, OK. Filed

Re: unittest.assertRaise and keyword arguments?

2005-12-02 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Bo Peng wrote: The syntax for using assertRaise is assertRaise(exception, function, para1, para2,...) However, I have a long list of arguments (20) so I would like to test some of them using keyword arguments (use default for others). Is there a way to do this except for manually

Volume of CSG (constructive solid geometry) objects

2005-12-02 Thread Charlie
From python, I need to be able to create CSG objects and calculate their volume (and from that their mass). It looks like their are plenty of packages to create and display CSG objects, however, I can not seem to find any API to get to the object's volume. If anyone has any

Re: CGI module does not parse data

2005-12-02 Thread amfr
I am using execfile, setting stdin and stdout like this: sys.stdin = self.wfile sys.stdout = self.rfile execfile(filename) Its the same code used in the CGIHTTPServer module. I know that the python is executing corretly, a script with this content would work: print html print head print title

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-02 Thread Micah Elliott
On Dec 02, Dave Hansen wrote: Python recognizes the TAB character as valid indentation. TAB characters are evil. They should be banned from Python source code. AGREE! AGREE! AGREE! The interpreter should stop translation of code and throw an exception when one is encountered. You could

Re: unittest.assertRaise and keyword arguments?

2005-12-02 Thread Bo Peng
Giovanni Bajo wrote: You can pass keyword arguments to assertRaises without problems: self.assertRaises(ValueError, myfunc, arg1,arg2, arg3, arg4, abc=0, foo=1, bar=hello) Well, I though abc=0 would be keyword arguments for assertRaisers and never tried it! Or you can always do

Re: How to list currently defined classes, methods etc

2005-12-02 Thread Kent Johnson
Deep wrote: I have been looking a bit and am stuck at this point. Given a string, how do i find what is the string bound to. Let me give an example. def deep(): print Hello now inspect.ismethod(deep) returns true. (As it should). But if I am trying to make a list of all bound

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-02 Thread Gerhard Häring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Micah Elliott wrote: On Dec 02, Dave Hansen wrote: Python recognizes the TAB character as valid indentation. TAB characters are evil. They should be banned from Python source code. AGREE! AGREE! AGREE! The interpreter should stop

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-02 Thread Simon Brunning
On 12/2/05, Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, indentation scoping one one of the features that _attracted_ me to Python. +1 QOTW OK, it's a bit of a cliche. But it's a cliche because it's *true*. -- Cheers, Simon B, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/ --

Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!

2005-12-02 Thread Inyeol Lee
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 09:45:10PM +0100, Gerhard H�ring wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Micah Elliott wrote: On Dec 02, Dave Hansen wrote: Python recognizes the TAB character as valid indentation. TAB characters are evil. They should be banned from Python source

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