Re: py3k s***s

2008-04-15 Thread Sverker Nilsson
Thanks for your well-formulated article Providing the Python infrastructure with my program doesn't apply since I am providing a program/library that is intended to be general. So it doesn't help. All that py3k does to me, it seems, is some extra work. To be frank, no innovation. Just changes,

subplot function in matplotlib

2008-04-15 Thread eli
Does anyone know a workaround to plotting beyond 9 subplots in matplotlib? It would be nice to have 20 plots under the subplot function for example (poster). Cheers, Eli -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Joe P. Cool writes: > On 12 Apr., 03:34, baalbek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Delphi/Object Pascal simply sucks big time! > > I disagree. Delphi/Object Pascal with the VCL (Visual Component > Library) is one of the most sophisticated IDEs ever, even better > than Qt IMO. [...] I wa

Re: Interesting timing issue I noticed

2008-04-15 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:24:01 -0300, Jonathan Shao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > I've written up a stripped down version of the code. I apologize for the > bad > coding; I am in a bit of a hurry. First things first: I think you will gain inmensely using NumPy: http://numpy.scipy.org/ My t

Re: Compiling Python 2.5.2 on AIX 5.2

2008-04-15 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> What is Py_UNICODE_SIZE and why was it not defined? There are current > questions I have. Py_UNICODE_SIZE is the number of bytes that a Py_UNICODE value should have in the interpreter. With --enable-unicode=ucs2, it should be 2. I cannot guess why it is not defined; check pyconfig.h to find ou

Re: Unicode chr(150) en dash

2008-04-15 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\MySQLdb\cursors.py", line 149, in > execute query = query.encode(charset) UnicodeEncodeError: 'latin-1' > codec can't encode character u'\u2013' in position 52: ordinal not in > range(256) Here it complains that it deals with the character U+2013, which is "EN DAS

Re: import hooks

2008-04-15 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:14:18 -0300, Patrick Stinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > What's the current way to install an import hook? I've got an embedded > app > that has a few scripts that I want to import each other, but that are > not in > sys.modules. I intentionally keep them out of sy

Re: Brand New!

2008-04-15 Thread Paul Scott
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 02:35 -0300, Gabriel Genellina wrote: > I'm unsure if teaching Javascript, VBScript and Python at the same time is > a good thing, I'd think one would get a language soup and mix all the > concepts, but if it works for you, go ahead. > For other resources, see the beginne

Re: tkinter, event.widget, what do i get?

2008-04-15 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:45:24 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > On 16 Apr, 00:24, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> En Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:45:08 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: >> >> > when calling function hmm here, what do i get? the widget i clicked >> > on? >> > if i ha

Re: Brand New!

2008-04-15 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:37:40 -0300, agent E 10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > On Apr 14, 8:37 pm, Benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Apr 14, 9:00 pm, agent E 10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>    Hi, >> I'm brand new to programming. Have any suggestions? I'm young. >> > Was it a good idea t

Re: how to remove \n in the list

2008-04-15 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:26:16 -0300, Yves Dorfsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Dan Bishop wrote: > lines[:] = [line.rstrip('\n') for line in lines] >>> What is the point of the [:] after lines ? How different is it with or >>> without it ? >> >> It causes the result to be stored in the e

python-gammu for Python 2.4 on Windows

2008-04-15 Thread Simon Kagwi
Hi everyone, I am looking for binaries (.exe) of python-gammu (any version) for Python 2.4. What I'm getting from the download website is only for Python 2.5. Does anyone know where I can get what I'm looking for? Google isn't really helping :-C Regards, Simon ___

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On 11 abr, 20:31, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > I have no experience with GUI programming in Python, but from this > discussion it seems if the type of license is not an issue (for > FOSS development), PyQt is the best tool because it

Re: Interesting timing issue I noticed

2008-04-15 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
On 4/15/08, Daniel Fetchinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can I then simply ignore the time data then? I do see better performance > > obviously the smaller the box is, but I guess my issues is how seriously > to > > take all this data. Because I can't claim "performance improvement" if > there

Unicode chr(150) en dash

2008-04-15 Thread marexposed
Hello guys & girls I'm pasting an "en dash" (http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2013/index.htm) character into a tkinter widget, expecting it to be properly stored into a MySQL database. I'm getting this error: **

Re: Interesting timing issue I noticed

2008-04-15 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
> Can I then simply ignore the time data then? I do see better performance > obviously the smaller the box is, but I guess my issues is how seriously to > take all this data. Because I can't claim "performance improvement" if there > isn't really much of an improvement. > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at

python memory leak only in x86 64 linux

2008-04-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the memory usage of a python app keeps growing in a x86 64 linux continuously, whereas in 32 bit linux this is not the case. Python version in both 32 bit and 64 bit linux - 2.6.24.4-64.fc8 Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Oct 30 2007, 13:45:26) i isolated the memory leak problem to a function that uses

Re: Interesting timing issue I noticed

2008-04-15 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
> I've written up a stripped down version of the code. I apologize for the bad > coding; I am in a bit of a hurry. > > import random > import sys > import time > > sizeX = 320 > sizeY = 240 > borderX = 20 > borderY = 20 > > # generates a zero matrix > def generate_zero(): > matrix = [[0 for y i

RE: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Marlin Rowley
Hmm.. I'm just now learning wxPython and it's very very easy to me. Perhaps because I've delved into other GUI APIs like GLUT and Windows DirectX. Programming in C++ seems a pain when coming from Python. I'll let you know more when I delve more into it. -M > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Benjamin
On Apr 15, 9:17 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 11 abr, 20:31, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 11, 5:01 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have to choose it > > > at the very start of the proje

Re: Brand New!

2008-04-15 Thread Benjamin
On Apr 15, 6:37 pm, agent E 10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 14, 8:37 pm, Benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 14, 9:00 pm, agent E 10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>Hi, I'm brand > > new to programming. Have any suggestions? I'm young. > > > Was it a good idea to start with pyth

Re: Interesting timing issue I noticed

2008-04-15 Thread Jonathan Shao
I've written up a stripped down version of the code. I apologize for the bad coding; I am in a bit of a hurry. import random import sys import time sizeX = 320 sizeY = 240 borderX = 20 borderY = 20 # generates a zero matrix def generate_zero(): matrix = [[0 for y in range(sizeY)] for x in ra

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread lxlaurax
On 11 abr, 20:31, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 11, 5:01 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have to choose it > > at the very start of the project. You cannot develop something using the > > open sourc

OverflowError: regular expression code size limit exceeded

2008-04-15 Thread gdetre
Dear all, I'm trying to get a large, machine-generated regular expression (many thousands of characters) to work in Python on a Mac (running Leopard), and I keep banging my head against this brick wall: >>> update_implicit_link_regexp_temp() Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, i

Re: How to have unittest tests to be executed in the order they appear?

2008-04-15 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Find out about test fixtures in the documentation for unittest > http://www.python.org/doc/lib/module-unittest>. Find out easier with the right URL context http://www.python.org/doc/lib/module-unittest>. -- \ "I like my dental hygenist, I think she

import hooks

2008-04-15 Thread Patrick Stinson
What's the current way to install an import hook? I've got an embedded app that has a few scripts that I want to import each other, but that are not in sys.modules. I intentionally keep them out of sys.modules because their names will not be unique across the app. They will, however, be unique betw

Re: Gecko 1.9

2008-04-15 Thread Todd Whiteman
Joe P. Cool wrote: > In 2005 I heard of plans to add Python as a second language to the > Gecko engine. Is this still true? Or has this plan been abandoned? > You can use Python inside of Mozilla (Gecko) based applications now, such as Firefox/Thunderbird/Komodo Edit/XulRunner which communicate

Re: How to have unittest tests to be executed in the order they appear?

2008-04-15 Thread tom arnall
On Tuesday 15 April 2008 16:23, Ben Finney wrote: > "Giampaolo Rodola'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is there a way to force unittest to run test methods in the order > > they appear? > > No, and this is a good thing. > > Your test cases should *not* depend on any state from other test > cases;

Re: how to remove \n in the list

2008-04-15 Thread alex23
On Apr 16, 9:26 am, Yves Dorfsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If we do: > lines[:] = [line.rstrip('\n') for line in lines] > > We reuse an existing list, therefore we are saving the time it takes to > create a new list ? So this is a performance issue ? I think it's more of a reference issue. You

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Re: tkinter, event.widget, what do i get?

2008-04-15 Thread skanemupp
On 16 Apr, 00:24, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > En Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:45:08 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > when calling function hmm here, what do i get? the widget i clicked > > on? > > if i have a canvs on wich i have a bitmap and i click on the bitmap, > > is the

Re: Brand New!

2008-04-15 Thread agent E 10
On Apr 14, 8:37 pm, Benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 14, 9:00 pm, agent E 10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>    Hi, I'm brand > new to programming. Have any suggestions? I'm young. > > Was it a good idea to start with python? I was planning on creating a > > very simple program that asked

Re: how to remove \n in the list

2008-04-15 Thread Yves Dorfsman
Dan Bishop wrote: >>> lines[:] = [line.rstrip('\n') for line in lines] >> What is the point of the [:] after lines ? How different is it with or >> without it ? > > It causes the result to be stored in the existing list. > If we do: lines = [line.rstrip('\n') for line in lines] lines is now a

Re: How to have unittest tests to be executed in the order they appear?

2008-04-15 Thread Ben Finney
"Giampaolo Rodola'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a way to force unittest to run test methods in the order > they appear? No, and this is a good thing. Your test cases should *not* depend on any state from other test cases; they should function equally well when executed in any arbitrar

Testing for callable or iterable (was: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?)

2008-04-15 Thread Ben Finney
Erich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > def iterable(item, count_str=False): > if not count_str and isinstance(item, str): > return False > try: > iter(item) > except: > return False > return True > This is just simple boolean test for whether or not an object

i want to add a timeout...

2008-04-15 Thread maehhheeyy
I want to add a timeout so that when I pull out my gps from my serial port, it would wait for a bit then loop and then see if it's there. I also want to add a print statement saying that there is no GPS device found. However when I run my code and unplug my serial port, my code will just hang until

Re: tkinter, canvas, get color of image?

2008-04-15 Thread Bryan Oakley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 13 Apr, 19:19, Bryan Oakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> mapq = PhotoImage(file = 'C:\Users\saftarn\Desktop\elmapovic.gif') >>> w.create_image(10, 10, image = mapq, anchor = NW) >>> after doing this is there any possibility of getting the

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Joe P. Cool
On 12 Apr., 03:34, baalbek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Delphi/Object Pascal simply sucks big time! I disagree. Delphi/Object Pascal with the VCL (Visual Component Library) is one of the most sophisticated IDEs ever, even better than Qt IMO. The only drawback is that it is Windows only. > No rea

Re: tkinter, event.widget, what do i get?

2008-04-15 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:45:08 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > when calling function hmm here, what do i get? the widget i clicked > on? > if i have a canvs on wich i have a bitmap and i click on the bitmap, > is the event.widget then the bitmap? > can i get info about the bitmap then? like c

Re: Different times between Python and System

2008-04-15 Thread Mark
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:31:34 -0700, Josh wrote: > Hmm... That didn't work out so well that time. I feel like an idiot. > Previously there has been an hour difference between the system time and > the time that python reports. Thanks for the laugh though Josh. That was funny! :) -- http://mail.

Re: webcam (usb) access under Ubuntu

2008-04-15 Thread Berco Beute
On Apr 15, 11:18 pm, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Berco Beute schrieb: > > > Thanks, that would be great. > > Here you go. > > http://roggisch.de/vidio.tgz > > Diez Wonderful! Thank you very much! I'm running out of time, but after installing the necessary goodies using the nice

Re: How to import C++ static library?

2008-04-15 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> Diez: I tried SWIG, and it works nicely with C. For C++, I didn't manage > to make it work. I tried SIP; I have some problems compiling etc. Would > it be too much to ask you to supply a working example of a (simple, > stupid) C++ class and the necessary SIP files? Preferably for Mac OS X, >

Re: py3k s***s

2008-04-15 Thread Terry Reedy
"Sverker Nilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | What serious reports? http://wiki.python.org/moin/Early2to3Migrations -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread John Krukoff
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 13:48 -0700, Jeffrey Froman wrote: > Tim Chase wrote: > >def nsplit(s, delim=None, maxsplit=None): > > if maxsplit: > >results = s.split(delim, maxsplit) > >result_len = len(results) > >if result_len < maxsplit: > > results.extend([''

Re: webcam (usb) access under Ubuntu

2008-04-15 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Berco Beute schrieb: > Thanks, that would be great. Here you go. http://roggisch.de/vidio.tgz Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Getting subprocess.call() output into a string?

2008-04-15 Thread David
> > Still, about StringIO... > The module description says you can use it to read and write strings as files, not that you can use strings *everywhere* you can use files. In your specific case, StringIO doesn't work, because the stdout redirection takes place at the operating system level (which

Re: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread John Krukoff
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 11:51 -0700, Erich wrote: > Hello all, > > Today I found myself once again defining two functions that I use all > the time: nsplit and iterable. These little helper functions of mine > get used all the time when I work. Im sick of having to define them > (but am very good

Re: Getting subprocess.call() output into a string?

2008-04-15 Thread Tobiah
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:36:11 -0700, Tobiah wrote: > I am not sure how to capture the output of a command > using subprocess without creating a temp file. I was Sorry, I jumped into a secondary level of the docs, and didn't see it all. I guess I can use communicate() to get the output. Still, ab

Re: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread Jeffrey Froman
Erich wrote: > def iterable(item, count_str=False): > if not count_str and isinstance(item, str): > return False > try: > iter(item) > except: > return False > return True Beware the "except" clause here, as it catches *all* errors. Thus, if you happen to ha

Re: Getting subprocess.call() output into a string?

2008-04-15 Thread David
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Tobiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not sure how to capture the output of a command > using subprocess without creating a temp file. I was > trying this: > > import StringIO > import subprocess > > file = StringIO.StringIO() > > subprocess.call("ls", st

Re: Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread sturlamolden
On Apr 15, 8:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Coming from VBA I have a tendency to think of everything as an > array... Coding to much in Visual Basic, like Fortran 77, is bad for your mind. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Java or C++?

2008-04-15 Thread Gabriel Ibanez
Hi all, I've never programmed Java. I started directly in C, then C++ and now using Python, mainly because its modules, because I found very hard to use and find external libraries to do the same as Python (i.e. to read an URL o send an email), and soften these libraries on C are not free or de

Re: Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread sturlamolden
On Apr 15, 7:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > test = [[1],[2]] > x = test[0] Python names are pointer to values. Python behaves like Lisp - not like Visual Basic or C#. Here you make x point to the object which is currently pointed to by the first element in the list test. If you now reassign

Re: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread Jeffrey Froman
Tim Chase wrote: >def nsplit(s, delim=None, maxsplit=None): > if maxsplit: >results = s.split(delim, maxsplit) >result_len = len(results) >if result_len < maxsplit: > results.extend([''] * (maxsplit - result_len) >return results > else: >

Re: webcam (usb) access under Ubuntu

2008-04-15 Thread Laurent Pointal
Le Tue, 15 Apr 2008 05:21:54 -0700, Berco Beute a écrit : > I've been trying to access my webcam using Python, but I failed > miserably. The camera works fine under Ubuntu (using camora and skype), > but I am unable to get WebCamSpy or libfg to access my webcam. > > First I tried webcamspy (http:

tkinter, event.widget, what do i get?

2008-04-15 Thread skanemupp
when calling function hmm here, what do i get? the widget i clicked on? if i have a canvs on wich i have a bitmap and i click on the bitmap, is the event.widget then the bitmap? can i get info about the bitmap then? like color of the pixel i clicked. if so, how? w.bind("", key) w.bind("", hmm) d

Getting subprocess.call() output into a string?

2008-04-15 Thread Tobiah
I am not sure how to capture the output of a command using subprocess without creating a temp file. I was trying this: import StringIO import subprocess file = StringIO.StringIO() subprocess.call("ls", stdout = file) Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 6, in ? File "/usr/local

Re: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Apr 15, 3:15 pm, Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My suggestion would just be to create your own utils.py module > that holds your commonly used tools and re-uses them > > -tkc Well, I almost said that, but I was trying to find some "battery" included that he could use since the OP s

Re: Java or C++?

2008-04-15 Thread Michael Torrie
Ben Kaplan wrote: > The fact that C# is a .NET language is also a major weakness, since you can > only use it on Windows. Really? I have developed several C# .NET applications and I only use OS X and Linux. Guess I imagined it. Also, IronPython runs very well on Linux and OS X. If you'd said

Re: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread Tim Chase
>> def nsplit(s,p,n): >> n -= 1 >> l = s.split(p, n) >> if len(l) < n: >> l.extend([''] * (n - len(l))) >> return l > > The split() method has a maxsplit parameter that I think does the same > thing. For example: > temp = 'foo,bar,baz' temp.split(',', 1) > ['foo'

Re: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread David
> Today I found myself once again defining two functions that I use all > the time: nsplit and iterable. These little helper functions of mine > get used all the time when I work. Im sick of having to define them > (but am very good at it these days, less than 1 typo per function!). > It lead

Re: Java or C++?

2008-04-15 Thread Paul Anton Letnes
Well, if you're new - first find the function, then how to use it, this funny %d5 (or something, don't remember) syntax - it's hard compared to: cout << 5 or similar stream tricks, or just 5 + "" in Java, or just str(5) in Python. Anyway, small tasks are very hard for C newbies. Den 15. a

Gecko 1.9

2008-04-15 Thread Joe P. Cool
In 2005 I heard of plans to add Python as a second language to the Gecko engine. Is this still true? Or has this plan been abandoned? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: tkinter, canvas, get color of image?

2008-04-15 Thread skanemupp
On 13 Apr, 19:19, Bryan Oakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > mapq = PhotoImage(file = 'C:\Users\saftarn\Desktop\elmapovic.gif') > > w.create_image(10, 10, image = mapq, anchor = NW) > > > after doing this is there any possibility of getting the > > characteristics of the

Re: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread Robin Stocker
Erich schrieb: > This is like split() but returns a list of exactly lenght n. This is > very useful when using unpacking, e.g.: > x, y = nsplit('foo,bar,baz', ',', 2) You could use the second argument of split: x, y = 'foo,bar,baz'.split(',', 1) Note that the number has the meaning "only spli

Re: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Apr 15, 1:51 pm, Erich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > Today I found myself once again defining two functions that I use all > the time: nsplit and iterable. These little helper functions of mine > get used all the time when I work. Im sick of having to define them > (but am very go

Re: Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Apr 15, 1:51 pm, Erich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > Today I found myself once again defining two functions that I use all > the time: nsplit and iterable. These little helper functions of mine > get used all the time when I work. Im sick of having to define them > (but am very go

Re: Module not found in script that was found in command-line interpreter. Possible Path issue?

2008-04-15 Thread Jacob Davis
On Apr 3, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Trent Mick wrote: > Jacob Davis wrote: >> I just installed the MySQLdb module and I have been able to get it >> to run in my command line interpreter. I am running Mac Leopard, >> and Python 2.5. >> I have tested importing and actually connecting and using a MySQL

Re: Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread Robin Stocker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > by changing temp = v[:] the code worked perfectly (although changing > temp.insert(0,k) to temp = [k] + temp also worked fine... I didn't > like that as I knew it was a workaround) So the for body now looks like this?: temp = v[:] temp.insert(0, k) finallist.

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:43:28 +, David Cook wrote: > On 2008-04-11, Gabriel Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why is nobody talking about pyGTK ? There are no limits with licenses >> (I think) > > The OS X port is still pretty preliminary. > > Dave Cook I often use pygtk for my *ix pro

Re: How to have unittest tests to be executed in the order they appear?

2008-04-15 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:02:48 -0700 (PDT) "Giampaolo Rodola'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there. > Is there a way to force unittest to run test methods in the order they > appear? Since they run in alphabetical order why not just rename them to the order you want them to run? Something like th

Re: Java or C++?

2008-04-15 Thread Grzegorz Słodkowicz
> You must be joking - better designed? C++ was a botch to an already poor > language. > Although I'm relatively new to the concept that C++ is too difficult to use, I would concede that with certain mindset and priorities Java may be a valid choice. Not so if one is willing to expand know

Re: Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread duncan smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you both, the assigning using slicing works perfectly (as I'm > sure you knew it would)... It just didn't occur to me because it > seemed a little nonintuitive... The specific application was > > def dicttolist (inputdict): > finallist=[] > for k, v in inpu

Re: Java or C++?

2008-04-15 Thread Ben Kaplan
The fact that C# is a .NET language is also a major weakness, since you can only use it on Windows. - Original Message From: Michael Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: python-list@python.org Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:19:31 PM Subject: Re: Java or C++? egbert wrote: > What is the role

How to have unittest tests to be executed in the order they appear?

2008-04-15 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'
Hi there. Is there a way to force unittest to run test methods in the order they appear? I'll try to explain. My test suite appears as something like this: import unittest from test.test_support import TestSkipped, run_unittest class TestCase(unittest.TestCase): def test_z(self): ..

Recurring patterns: Am I missing it, or can we get these added to the language?

2008-04-15 Thread Erich
Hello all, Today I found myself once again defining two functions that I use all the time: nsplit and iterable. These little helper functions of mine get used all the time when I work. Im sick of having to define them (but am very good at it these days, less than 1 typo per function!). It leads m

Re: a name error

2008-04-15 Thread mimi.vx
or import sys from urllib2 import * try: r=urllib2.urlopen("http://un-know-n.com/";) except URLError,e: print str(e) sys.exit(1) print r.info() se python scope and namespaces .. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread hall . jeff
I think the fundamental "disconnect" is this issue of mutability and immutability that people talk about (mainly regarding tuples and whether they should be thought of as static lists or not) Coming from VBA I have a tendency to think of everything as an array... So when I create the following t

Re: Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread Michael Tobis
http://effbot.org/zone/python-objects.htm still says it best. mt -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread hall . jeff
Thank you both, the assigning using slicing works perfectly (as I'm sure you knew it would)... It just didn't occur to me because it seemed a little nonintuitive... The specific application was def dicttolist (inputdict): finallist=[] for k, v in inputdict.iteritems(): temp = v

Re: Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On Apr 15, 6:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As a relative new comer to Python, I haven't done a heck of a lot of > hacking around with it. I had my first run in with Python's quirky (to > me at least) tendency to assign by reference rather than by value (I'm > coming from a VBA world so that's t

Re: Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread Matimus
On Apr 15, 10:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As a relative new comer to Python, I haven't done a heck of a lot of > hacking around with it. I had my first run in with Python's quirky (to > me at least) tendency to assign by reference rather than by value (I'm > coming from a VBA world so that's

Re: Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Herron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As a relative new comer to Python, I haven't done a heck of a lot of > hacking around with it. I had my first run in with Python's quirky (to > me at least) tendency to assign by reference rather than by value (I'm > coming from a VBA world so that's the terminology I'm u

Re: Java or C++?

2008-04-15 Thread lbonafide
On Apr 15, 11:55 am, egbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the role or position of C# in this context ? > If I remember well, some people have said that C# is an improved > C++ or Java. C# is more similar to Java than C++. Neither is very similar to C++, except in some cosmetic syntactic wa

Re: Java or C++?

2008-04-15 Thread lbonafide
On Apr 15, 3:07 am, Paul Anton Letnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but C bogs you down with administrative stuff (try converting an int   > to a string; I found myself googling for an hour!). It took an hour to find sprintf()? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Preferred method for "Assignment by value"

2008-04-15 Thread hall . jeff
As a relative new comer to Python, I haven't done a heck of a lot of hacking around with it. I had my first run in with Python's quirky (to me at least) tendency to assign by reference rather than by value (I'm coming from a VBA world so that's the terminology I'm using). I was surprised that these

Re: Java or C++?

2008-04-15 Thread Michael Torrie
egbert wrote: > What is the role or position of C# in this context ? > If I remember well, some people have said that C# is an improved > C++ or Java. > e I think C# is in a great position, and might be recommended. C# has the added advantage of being able to very easily work with IronPython. Th

Re: py3k s***s

2008-04-15 Thread Donn Cave
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sverker Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No one forces me, but sooner or later they will want a Python 3.0 and > then a 3.1 whatever. > > I don't want that fuzz. As about the C versions, I am not that > worried. What's your point? > > I just like want to wri

Re: Tremendous slowdown due to garbage collection

2008-04-15 Thread Paul Rubin
Aaron Watters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Even with Btree's if you jump around in the tree the performance can > be awful. The Linux file cache really helps. The simplest approach is to just "cat" the index files to /dev/null a few times an hour. Slightly faster (what I do with Solr) is mmap

Re: py3k s***s

2008-04-15 Thread Michael Torrie
Chris McAloney wrote: > *Have* you tried the 2to3 tool? It might help to lessen your > concerns a bit. Yes, Python 3 is different from 2.x, but we've known > that it was going to be for years and, as has already been pointed > out, the devs are being very careful to minimize the pain that t

Re: Java or C++?

2008-04-15 Thread egbert
What is the role or position of C# in this context ? If I remember well, some people have said that C# is an improved C++ or Java. e -- Egbert Bouwman - Keizersgracht 197 II - 1016 DS Amsterdam - 020 6257991 -- http://mail.

Re: Tremendous slowdown due to garbage collection

2008-04-15 Thread Aaron Watters
On Apr 14, 11:18 pm, Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, that is for the OP to decide. The reason I don't like the > sort of question I posed is it's presumptuous--maybe the OP already > considered and rejected this, and has taken steps to ensure the in > memory data structure won't

Re: use object method without initializing object

2008-04-15 Thread colas . francis
On 15 avr, 17:43, Robert Bossy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reckoner wrote: > > would it be possible to use one of an object's methods without > > initializing the object? > > > In other words, if I have: > > > class Test: > > def __init__(self): > > print 'init' > > def foo(self): > >

Re: String Literal to Blob

2008-04-15 Thread J. Cliff Dyer
It is published. On comp.lang.python. Google groups has it, so google (search) will find it. Cheers, Cliff On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 17:04 +0200, Victor Subervi wrote: > Gabriel; > > That's really nice code you wrote. I will rewrite my app accordingly, > after I catch a breather! Say, would you p

Re: use object method without initializing object

2008-04-15 Thread Robert Bossy
Reckoner wrote: > would it be possible to use one of an object's methods without > initializing the object? > > In other words, if I have: > > class Test: > def __init__(self): > print 'init' > def foo(self): > print 'foo' > > and I want to use the foo function without hitting the >

Re: use object method without initializing object

2008-04-15 Thread colas . francis
On 15 avr, 17:27, Reckoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > would it be possible to use one of an object's methods without > initializing the object? > > In other words, if I have: > > class Test: > def __init__(self): > print 'init' > def foo(self): > print 'foo' > > and I want to use

Re: py3k s***s

2008-04-15 Thread Chris McAloney
On 15-Apr-08, at 12:30 AM, Sverker Nilsson wrote: > No one forces me, but sooner or later they will want a Python 3.0 and > then a 3.1 whatever. > > I don't want that fuzz. As about the C versions, I am not that > worried. What's your point? > > I just like want to write a program that will stay w

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