En Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:16:04 -0200, Dale Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
So, then, what to tell a C++ programmer about how Python passes
arguments? You say: tell them Python only passes by value. I disagree,
because I think that would confuse them. Rather than try to map C++
convent
On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:55:25 -0500, Michel Catudal
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Richard Keebler wrote:
>
>
>
>
>I found the perfect site for assholes like you
>
>http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
Are there any of GOD's frozen chosen beautiful African Americans on
this Alaska forum?
I would like
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Carl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a package that can connect and query a mysql server that
> is platform independent and does not need to compile any extra c modules (IE
> a pure python module)?
There was a recent discussion on
this mailing list
En Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:58:10 -0200, greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
By common usage and technical definition, C is call by value. Argument
passing in Python does not behave like C. So why insist that Python is
also call by value?
Whether it behaves like C is no
On Oct 26, 2:51 am, Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The more you spam people with your repetitive postings, the less likely it
> becomes that they are willing to answer you.
In asit's defence, the Google Groups interface has been woefully
broken for the past 3-4 days. If e had posted vi
greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Seems to me that (1) describes exactly how parameter passing
> works in Python. So why insist that it's *not* call by value?
Because there's an important distinction to be made, and the
distinction has been written up in the Computer Science literature
since Lis
"Stefan Behnel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tim Arnold schrieb:
>> Hi,
>> Using lxml to clean up auto-generated xml to validate against a dtd; I
>> need
>> to remove an element tag but keep the text in order. For example
>> s0 = '''
>>
>>first text
>> la
On 2008-10-25 12:41:51 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Kevin D. Smith:
What I want is a two color output image: black where the image wasn't
different, and white where it was different.<
There are several ways to do that. If speed isn't essential, then you
can create a third blank image of the
[I am actually enjoying this discussion, even though it does not address
the OP's question. It is helping to solidify *my* understanding.]
Joe Strout wrote:
On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this "uncontrived" example addresses the C/Python difference
fairly direc
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
By common usage and technical definition, C is call by value. Argument
passing in Python does not behave like C. So why insist that Python is
also call by value?
Whether it behaves like C is not the test.
Let's look at the definitions of the terms:
(1) Call by value:
On approximately 10/27/2008 10:27 AM, came the following characters from
the keyboard of Peter Otten:
Here's a class that can negate arbitrary values
... def __init__(self, value):
... self.value = value
... def __cmp__(self, other):
... return -cmp(self.value, o
I was wondering if anyone had any advice on this.
This is not to study graph theory; I'm using the graph to represent a
problem domain. The graphs could be arbitrarily large, and could
easily have millions of nodes, and most nodes have a substantial
amount of data associated with them. Obviously
Does anyone know of a package that can connect and query a mysql server
that is platform independent and does not need to compile any extra c
modules (IE a pure python module)?
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En Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:50:08 -0200, TP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
Recently, I have tried to improve the look of the printed text in command
line. For this, I was compelled to remove redundant spaces in strings,
because in my scripts, often the strings are spreading on several lines.
For ex
I'm sorry to say I'm pretty confused by the example, but if you want
something like
bob = module.object()
frank = module.object()
and then to know that bob is bob from a list of instances, you could
instead do something like:
for person in listofnames:
temp = module.object(person)
list.
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:31:06 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Software has no market value. Business models that try to assign it one
>> are doomed to fight an uphill battle against market forces.
>
> +1 QOTW.
-1
That quote confuses the *cost* of
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:11:04 -0600, Joe Strout wrote:
> On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I think this "uncontrived" example addresses the C/Python difference
>> fairly directly (both were tested):
>
> That's correct, but of course, C is a decades-old language barely a
Hi everybody,
Recently, I have tried to improve the look of the printed text in command
line. For this, I was compelled to remove redundant spaces in strings,
because in my scripts, often the strings are spreading on several lines.
For example, "aaa bbb" had to be transformed in "aaa bbb".
I ha
Thierry Lam wrote:
I have a python time string which has the following value:
1225137896
The above corresponds to 2008/10/27 16:04:56
What can I use to convert 1225137896 to a more readable date, time
format?
(1) Read Smart Questions [you could at least have told us where this
number came f
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I've implemented a simple
solution using sys.settrace. It's quite nice because it doesn't
require any instrumentation of the code (it works like a debugger that
traps all function calls).
Here's the output I get right now when "profiling" Skip's example code
(b
Mark wrote:
Hi;
I'm trying to use the struct.unpack to extract an int, int, char
struct info from a file. I'm more accustomed to the file.readlines
which works well in a 'for' construct (ending loop after reaching
EOF).
You do not need .readlines to iterate through a file by lines.
for line
En Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:03:37 -0200, Steven Clark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi;
I'm trying to use the struct.unpack to extract an int, int, char
struct info from a file. I'm more accustomed to the file.readlines
which works
rodmc schrieb:
Hi,
I have posted elsewhere about a related topic. But I an curious is it
possible to set up a web form which people select a file for upload
which is then upload it via FTP protocol to the web server - the
entire process must be web based and not require an external FTP
client. T
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 17, 5:39 pm, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
No, it isn't. In many other languages (C, Pascal, etc.), a
"variable" is commonly thought of as a fixed location in memory
into which one can put values. Thos
"Tim Rowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I haven't yet had occasion to use LINQ in anger yet, so I have no
>> idea whether its an idea to love or to hate. I do think it is good
>> that C# has effectively sprouted list comprehensions (not to mention
>> anonymous types and type inferencing) and I ex
On Oct 25, 4:58 am, Lie Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:43:35 -0700, bearophileHUGS wrote:
> > Mr.SpOOn:
> >> Is there another convenient structure or shall I use lists and define
> >> the operations I need?
>
> >
> > As Python becomes accepted for more and more "serious"
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Thierry Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a python time string which has the following value:
>
> 1225137896
>
> The above corresponds to 2008/10/27 16:04:56
>
> What can I use to convert 1225137896 to a more readable date, time
> format?
> --
>>> from date
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi;
>
> I'm trying to use the struct.unpack to extract an int, int, char
> struct info from a file. I'm more accustomed to the file.readlines
> which works well in a 'for' construct (ending loop after reaching
> EOF).
>
> # This do
On Oct 24, 1:24 pm, Mike Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 12:05 pm,Robocop<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know of any decent (open source or commercial) python
> > barcode recognition tools or libraries. I need to read barcodes from
> > pdfs or images, so it will invol
On Oct 24, 1:24 pm, Mike Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 12:05 pm, Robocop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know of any decent (open source or commercial) python
> >barcoderecognition tools or libraries. I need to read barcodes from
> > pdfs or images, so it will invol
I have a python time string which has the following value:
1225137896
The above corresponds to 2008/10/27 16:04:56
What can I use to convert 1225137896 to a more readable date, time
format?
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Severin wrote:
Hello,
Is there a simple example demonstrating how to use the Trampoline from
PEP 342 (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0342/)?
In the examples section toward the end
3. A simple co-routine scheduler or "trampoline" that lets
coroutines "call" other coroutines by yie
Hi;
I'm trying to use the struct.unpack to extract an int, int, char
struct info from a file. I'm more accustomed to the file.readlines
which works well in a 'for' construct (ending loop after reaching
EOF).
# This does OK at fetching one 10-byte string at a time:
# (4, 4, 2 ascii chars represen
Lie Ryan:
>Oh no, the two dict implementation would work _exactly_ the same from the
>outside, they are transparently interchangeable. Only the performance
>characteristic differs because of the different implementation.<
I don't agree with the general idea. If the operations done by your
data
-Original Message-
From: James Mills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 5:26 PM
To: sonich
Cc: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Web crawler on python
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:54 AM, sonich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need simple web crawler,
> I found Ruya,
Hi All,
Pydev and Pydev Extensions 1.3.24 have been released
This is a high-priority release to fix some blocker bugs (that's why
it was released in such a short time from the last release)
Details on Pydev Extensions: http://www.fabioz.com/pydev
Details on Pydev: http://pydev.sf.net
Details on
Allen Taylor wrote:
> I was given the task of upgrading a Python/Tkinter GUI application to
> the latest versions of Python and Tk. After a while, I realized that the
> application had not been written in a thread-safe manner. Multiple
> threads would simply use the Tk object directly. The applicat
On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this "uncontrived" example addresses the C/Python difference
fairly directly (both were tested):
That's correct, but of course, C is a decades-old language barely a
step above assembler. For a fair comparison, pick any modern OO
On Oct 17, 5:39 pm, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> >> And my real point is that this is exactly the same as in every
> >> other modern language.
>
> > No, it isn't. In many other languages (C, Pascal, etc.), a
> > "variable" is commonl
En Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:03:45 -0200, TP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
Hi everybody,
I try to find a quick way to redirect the standard output of a Python
command (for example: print "message") to a python variable "foobar".
Ok, in this simple example, I could do foobar = "message", but in
fact
RC wrote:
> By default the print statement sends to stdout
> I want to send to stderr
>
> Try
>
> print "my meeage", file=sys.stderr
>
> I got
>> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>
> I try
>
> print "my message", sys.stderr
>
> But it still sent to stdout.
> What is the syntax?
>
> I wouldn't und
By default the print statement sends to stdout
I want to send to stderr
Try
print "my meeage", file=sys.stderr
I got
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
I try
print "my message", sys.stderr
But it still sent to stdout.
What is the syntax?
I wouldn't understand Python's manual
print([object,
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On Oct 17, 5:39 pm, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> >> And my real point is that this is exactly the same as in every
> >> other modern language.
>
> > No, it isn't. In many other languages (C, Pascal, etc.), a
> > "variable" is commonl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Kern:
This is similar to implementing "Undo" functionality in applications.<
In a quite-high-level language (like Python, but not necessarily in
Python itself) it may become eventually advantageous to add some (even
limited) built-in form of undo.
Right now, I
Hi!
Can I do this in python?
No.
The "default page" is a property of the web-server ; and it is not
client side.
Examples :
for Apache, it's index.html or index.htm ; but if PHP is installed,
index.php is also possible.
for APS, it's init.htm (between others possibilites).
etc.
@-s
Hi everybody,
I try to find a quick way to redirect the standard output of a Python
command (for example: print "message") to a python variable "foobar".
Ok, in this simple example, I could do foobar = "message", but in
fact 'print "message"' could be replaced by any Python function writing on
sta
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
En Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:13:08 -0200, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
?? wrote:
Any ideas?
Code 1:
from __future__ import print_function, unicode_literals
import sys
print(type('HELLO, WORLD!'), file=sys.stderr)
You have to do each future import i
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I understand that Python's object and calling semantics are exactly the
> same as Emerald (and likely other languages as well), and that both
> Emerald and Python are explicitly based on those of CLU, as described by
> by Barbara Liskov in 1979:
>
>
James Mills wrote:
So instead of coming up with arbitary problems, why don't
we come up with solutions for "Improving Interpreter Startup Speeds" ?
The current developers, most of whom use Python daily, are aware that
faster startup would be better. 2.6 and 3.0 start up quicker because
the s
David Cournapeau wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It this a theoretical problem or an actual one, that we might have other
suggestions for?
Any command line based on python is a real example of that problem.
No it is not.
The specific problem tha
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Glenn Linderman:
>
>> how does one create a key that corresponds to ascending integer followed
>> by descending character string?
>
> (Others may have already answered you because Google groups is very
> slow.)
>
seq = [(10, "abb"), (5, "zul"), (5, "hal"), (2, "o
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems to me that deleting local instances before imported modules
would solve the problem. Is it not possible for the interpreter to get
this right? Or are there cases where this would break stuff.
It seems rather unpythonic for the __del__() method to become
unpredic
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
...
You had Compilers!
You had Compiler Vendors!
When I was lad, we had nowt but raw hardware.
We had to sit in cold room, ears deafened by
whine of fan, clicking switches to load our
octal in computer. We just had error light...
You had octal! We just had oscillosc
Robert Kern:
> This is similar to implementing "Undo" functionality in applications.<
In a quite-high-level language (like Python, but not necessarily in
Python itself) it may become eventually advantageous to add some (even
limited) built-in form of undo. Both to give a simpler way to
implement a
(Sorry for the answering delay, Google groups is very slow.)
James:
>P.S. I don't understand a lot of what I have there, I got most of it from the
>beginning tutorials and help sections. I have never programmed before, but
>this is for a school assignment.<
You must understand what you do at s
Glenn Linderman:
> how does one create a key that corresponds to ascending integer followed by
> descending character string?
(Others may have already answered you because Google groups is very
slow.)
>>> seq = [(10, "abb"), (5, "zul"), (5, "hal"), (2, "of")]
>>> sorted(seq, key=lambda (n,s): (
Thanks a lot because it works with
g.load("power.p")
But now I have this problem
gnuplot> load 'power.p'
gnuplot> set terminal postscript enhanced color
gnuplot> set output "spectrum.ps"
gnuplot> plot
gnuplot> set terminal x11
gnuplot> set output
gnuplot> plot
^
line
On Oct 25, 1:42 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi. I'm very new to Python, and so this is probably a pretty basic
> question, but I'm lost. I am looking to limit a float value to a
> number between 0 and 100 (the input is a percentage).
>
> I currently have:
>
> integer = int()
> running = True
>
>
2008/9/24 Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Python still wins hands down on this example both in verbosity and
> readability:
But AFAICS, the Python version you give creates a temporary. One of
the advantages cited for LINQs functional programming paradigm is that
it specifies what is wanted a
On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:17 PM, barrett wrote:
Is there a way to find the name of a page you are retrieving using
python. For example, if I get http://www.cnn.com/ i want to know that
the page is index.html. I can do this using wget. as seen in the code
below. Can I do this in python?
Hi bar
Is there a way to find the name of a page you are retrieving using
python. For example, if I get http://www.cnn.com/ i want to know that
the page is index.html. I can do this using wget. as seen in the code
below. Can I do this in python?
Thanks,
$ wget cnn.com
--11:15:25-- http://cnn.com/
QOTW: "But it is the right idea. They just don't know what it means,
because they've been listening to people like you who insist on using
Pascal terminology with a definition unrecognizable to Pascal programmers.
To an ex-Pascal programmer like myself, when you talk about 'call by value
where the
jasiu85 wrote:
> Do I need a lock to protect the COMMON_DICT dictionary? AFAIK bytecode
> operations are atomic and in each thread there's only one crucial
> bytecode op: STORE_NAME in the first thread and LOAD_NAME in the
> second one. So I suspect that everything will work just fine. Am I
> righ
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:11:34 +1300, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>
>> I disagree. Triple-quoted strings are exactly the same as other
>> strings: they capture *exactly* what you put in them ...
>
> But that conflicts with the use of whites
Hello,
I've finally uploaded PySmell [1] to PyPI [2], thanks to a fantastic
contributor which did all the work for me. As I've written in a blog
post [3], I have some trouble distributing some support files,
notably, a vim script.
I am currently using these directives:
data_files = [
I think that rope has something like that; not really sure though.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:41 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> (Sorry for any repeated recommendations. I'm offline until Monday morning.
> You may well see some of these suggestions in the meanwhile, but so far it
> seems you'v
Hi,
luca72 wrote:
Hello
i have installed xchat on suse11 i see that there is the possibility
to use python for make some script, i see also that the python
interface is loaded, but when in python i type import xchat i get that
the module don't exist.
where is the module?
I try also to ask in th
(Sorry for any repeated recommendations. I'm offline until Monday morning.
You may well see some of these suggestions in the meanwhile, but so far it
seems you've had no nibbles.)
Martin> I'm wondering if there's a tool that can analyze a Python
Martin> program while it runs, and generat
Hello
i have installed xchat on suse11 i see that there is the possibility
to use python for make some script, i see also that the python
interface is loaded, but when in python i type import xchat i get that
the module don't exist.
where is the module?
I try also to ask in the xchat forum but i g
jasiu85 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Please take a look at the code of the two threads below:
>
> COMMON_DICT = {}
>
> def thread_1():
> global COMMON_DICT
> local_dict = prepare_dict()
> COMMON_DICT = local_dict
>
> def thread_2():
> global COMMON_DICT
> local_dic
abhishek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello group,
> i want to represent and store a string u'\x00\x07\xa7' as
> '\x00\x07\xa7'. any ideas on how to achieve this.
You can use latin-1 encoding.
>>> u = ''.join(unichr(c) for c in range(256))
>>> [ord(c) for c in u.encode('latin1')] == range(256)
rodmc wrote:
Hi,
I have posted elsewhere about a related topic. But I an curious is it
possible to set up a web form which people select a file for upload
which is then upload it via FTP protocol to the web server - the
entire process must be web based and not require an external FTP
client. The
On 2008-10-26 13:54, Martin Vilcans wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I'm wondering if there's a tool that can analyze a Python program
> while it runs, and generate a database with the types of arguments and
> return values for each function. In a way it is like a profiler, that
> instead of measuring how of
Hi,
I have posted elsewhere about a related topic. But I an curious is it
possible to set up a web form which people select a file for upload
which is then upload it via FTP protocol to the web server - the
entire process must be web based and not require an external FTP
client. The reason for ask
Hello,
Is there a simple example demonstrating how to use the Trampoline from PEP
342 (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0342/)?
Regards
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On 2008-10-25 20:19, Akira Kitada wrote:
> Hi Marc-Andre,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> I opened a ticket for this issue: http://bugs.python.org/issue4204
Thanks.
> Now I understand the state of the multiprocessing module,
> but it's too bad to see math, mmap and readline modules, that worked
jasiu85 schrieb:
Hey,
Please take a look at the code of the two threads below:
COMMON_DICT = {}
def thread_1():
global COMMON_DICT
local_dict = prepare_dict()
COMMON_DICT = local_dict
def thread_2():
global COMMON_DICT
local_dict = COMMON_DICT
use_dict(local_dict)
Do
Hey,
Please take a look at the code of the two threads below:
COMMON_DICT = {}
def thread_1():
global COMMON_DICT
local_dict = prepare_dict()
COMMON_DICT = local_dict
def thread_2():
global COMMON_DICT
local_dict = COMMON_DICT
use_dict(local_dict)
Do I need a lock to pr
abhishek wrote:
hello group,
i want to represent and store a string u'\x00\x07\xa7' as
'\x00\x07\xa7'. any ideas on how to achieve this.
You want to store it in the form of the repr() of the string? It is
possible to use repr() to get a bytestring to store and to use eval() to
create a unic
En Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:44:46 -0200, Benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
On Oct 25, 3:13 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to know why Python 2.6 doesn't have the syntax to create sets/
dicts of Python 3.0, like:
Because nobody bothered to backport them.
En Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:47:32
hello group,
i want to represent and store a string u'\x00\x07\xa7' as
'\x00\x07\xa7'. any ideas on how to achieve this.
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To make faster python, you can do:
1.) Use mod_python, and not cgi.
2.) Use other special python server that remaining in memory, and call
it from compiled C code. For example, the C code communicate this server
with pipes, tcp, (or with special files, and the result will come back
in other fi
Andy O'Meara wrote:
> On Oct 24, 9:52 pm, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A c-level module, on the other hand, can sidestep/release
the GIL at will, and go on it's merry way and process away.
>>> ...Unless part of the C module execution involves the need do CPU-
>>> bound wor
This solve the problem:
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-11183-0.html?forumID=89&threadID=191474
regsvr32 %systemroot%\system32\hhctrl.ocx
regsvr32 %systemroot%\system32\itss.dll
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi!
When I try to open the 2.5 Python help, I got error message:
"A fájl (mk:@MSITStore:c:\
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Gabriel Genellina
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> +1 This thread is stupid and pointless.
>> Even for a so-called cold startup 0.5s is fast enough!
>
> I don't see the need to be rude.
> And I DO care for Python startup time and memory footprint, and others do
> too.
Rafe wrote:
> Can anyone explain why this is happening?
When an attribute error is raised that is an indication that the requested
attribute doesn't exist, and __getattr__() must be called as a fallback.
> I can hack a work-around,
> but even then I could use some tips on how to raise the 'rea
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:40 PM, David Cournapeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Depends on the tool: build tool and source control tools are example
> it matters (specially when you start interfaciing them with IDE or
> editors). Having fast command line tools is an important feature of
> UNIX, and
En Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:52:32 -0200, James Mills
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Benjamin Kaplan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You must be in a real big hurry if half a second matters that much to
you.
Maybe if it took 5 seconds for the interpreter to start up, I
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Paul Rubin
<"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> It's not optimal but it is very common (CGI for example).
Which is why we (The Python Community)
created WSGI and mod_wsgi. C"mon guys
these "problems" are a bit old and out
dated :)
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM, James Mills
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> Yes, but in most cases you are not invoking your
> command-line app x times per y units of time.
Depends on the tool: build tool and source control tools are example
it matters (specially when you start interfaciing them wit
"James Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Heaven knows! I hardly think invoking hundreds
> and possibly thousands of short-lived python
> interpreters to be an optimal solution that may
> have spawned this particular thread.
It's not optimal but it is very common (CGI for example).
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:28 PM, David Cournapeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any command line based on python is a real example of that problem.
> There are plenty of them.
Yes, but in most cases you are not invoking your
command-line app x times per y units of time.
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It this a theoretical problem or an actual one, that we might have other
> suggestions for?
Heaven knows! I hardly think invoking hundreds
and possibly thousands of short-lived python
interpreters to be an optimal solution t
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> It this a theoretical problem or an actual one, that we might have other
> suggestions for?
Any command line based on python is a real example of that problem.
There are plenty of them.
David
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En Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:25:09 -0200, Alcari The Mad
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
I am confused about which data structure to rely on thread-safety, or
operator in Python?
All of the builtin functions(which are implemented in C, like len()) are
atomic(but assigning their output to a value may
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