Russ P. wrote:
Python already uses shorthand extensively. How about "def"? For people
who are so worried about self-explanatory symbols, what the heck does
that stand for? Default? Defeat? Defect? Defunct? Defer?
I think the difference here is that those other abbreviations are
mostly fa
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
>
>> * you seem to disregard the fact that in 'programming language' there
>> is the word 'language'. A language is a way to _communicate_
>> information, in the case of a programming language you commu
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
> * you give the impression of being arrogant;
Oddly enough, I wasn't the one who started by criticizing other people's
code. I have no ego about my code; I gladly accept criticisms. But perhaps
some other people are not so thick-skinned a
I'm trying to solve the 9-tile puzzle using as functional an approach
as possible. I've recently finished reading SICP and am deliberately
avoiding easy python-isms for the more convoluted scheme/functional
methods. The following function is trivial to do with for loops and
directly accessing arr
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
> * you seem to disregard the fact that in 'programming language' there
> is the word 'language'. A language is a way to _communicate_
> information, in the case of a programming language you communicate
> it to the computer bu
I'm trying to solve the 9-tile puzzle using as functional an approach
as possible. I've recently finished reading SICP and am deliberately
avoiding easy python-isms for the more convoluted scheme/functional
methods. The following function is trivial to do with for loops and
directly accessing arr
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rhodri
James wrote:
> Yes, it's very pretty, and you're terribly clever. In six months' time
> when you come back to make some engineering change and have to sit down
> and break it back down into those simple pieces to remind yourself what
> it's doing, "pretty" a
On Dec 6, 9:21 am, "Daniel Fetchinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been
> discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido
> himself acknowledged that an alternative syntax makes perfect sense
> and having both (
On Dec 7, 1:02 am, News123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would be interesting would be some syntactical sugar to get rid of
> the 'self' (at least in the code body).
>
> example:
> class C:
> class_elements a,b,c,d
>
> def method(self,arg):
> global d
> a,b,c = arg[0..3]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The main reason I waited until Python 3000 came out is the new way
>Unicode is handled. The old way seemed really broken to me. Much of
>what I do when I program consists of juggling Unicode text (real
>Unicode text w
On Dec 6, 9:09�pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:09:07 -0800, Mensanator wrote:
> > On Dec 6, 6:25 pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:36:07 -0800, Mensanator wrote:
> >> > It was
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:13:16 -0800 (PST)
> From: Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: "as" keyword woes
> To: python-list@python.org
> Message-ID:
>
> (snip)
>
> If you write a PEP, I advise you to try to sound less whiny and than
> you have in this thread.
>
> (snip)
Ehem, w
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Python Nutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At least if you push REs inform the readers where to get the a RE GUI
> builder written in Python so they can build and *test* the complex and
> unwieldy REs to perform anything beyond the basic pattern searches.
Oh, my
On 06Dec2008 11:30, Andreas Waldenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| On 6 Dec 2008 09:18:20 GMT Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| wrote:
| > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:56:12 +0100, Antoine De Groote wrote:
| > [snip reference to "preferably only one way to do it"]
| >
| > The reason why
Is there an easy way to see the number of PyPI packages which have
been ported to Python 3?
Are there any special arrangements necessary for PyPI packages which
have both a Python 2.x version and a Python 3.x version?
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On Dec 6, 6:42 pm, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But it's ugly. No amount of rationalization will make it not ugly.
>
> The dollar sign is ugly? I beg to differ.
Nope, you're wrong.
Carl Banks
(See where this is going?)
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On Dec 6, 8:17 pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:27:56 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> > Warren DeLano wrote:
> >> In other words we have lost the ability to refer to "as" as the
> >> generalized OOP-compliant/syntax-independent method name for
On Dec 7, 9:34 am, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 7, 9:01 am, David Bolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Johannes Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > This is very strange - when using "utf16", endianness should be detected
> > > automatically. When I simply truncate the trail
macc_200 wrote:
Hi,
just starting programming and have an elementary question after
playing around with lists but cannot find the answer with googling.
I have a list of variables and I would like some of those variables to
be integers and some to be operators so the list would look something
l
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:09:07 -0800, Mensanator wrote:
> On Dec 6, 6:25�pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cybersource.com.au> wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:36:07 -0800, Mensanator wrote:
>> > It was extremely simple for me to fix the sympy module where I
>> > noticed it. I'm not saying it
Bertilo Wennergren wrote:
Aahz wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
based on Python 3000 and that is also geared at people with a Perl
background? Too early for that I gue
On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:27:56 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> Warren DeLano wrote:
>> In other words we have lost the ability to refer to "as" as the
>> generalized OOP-compliant/syntax-independent method name for casting:
>
> Other possible spellings:
>
> # Use the normal Python idiom for avoiding
On Dec 6, 6:25�pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:36:07 -0800, Mensanator wrote:
> > It was extremely simple for me to fix the sympy module where I noticed
> > it. I'm not saying it wasn't a problem, I'm saying it wasn't BROKEN.
>
> If it wasn
Aahz wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
based on Python 3000 and that is also geared at people with a Perl
background? Too early for that I guess..
Honestly, the diffe
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Daniel Fetchinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> The proposal is to allow this:
>
> class C:
>def self.method( arg ):
>self.value = arg
>return self.value
>
> instead of this:
>
> class C:
>def method( self, arg ):
>self.value = arg
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, as an old-time unix hacker (who learned REs long before Perl
> existed), my question to you would be, "Is there any problem which
> *shouldn't* be solved with an RE?" :-)
>
> One of the reasons REs don't get u
Perl Cookbook for Python Programmers:
http://pleac.sourceforge.net/pleac_python/index.html
P3K as starting point (slight cringe) as long as you know the caveats.
I'm of the mind as Christopher with regard to how Python 3.0 has been
released on Python.org:
"""I don't think that Python 3.0 is a ba
Erik Max Francis:
> your precise proposal has
> been brought up countless times on comp.lang.python
And something tells me that it will keep coming up many more times in
the following years too.
Bye,
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Warren DeLano wrote:
> In other words we have lost the ability to refer to "as" as the
> generalized OOP-compliant/syntax-independent method name for casting:
Other possible spellings:
# Use the normal Python idiom for avoiding keyword clashes
# and append a trailing underscore
new_object = old_o
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:51:51 -, Daniel Fetchinson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Did you read the blog post? The advantage is having a less confusing
situation for newbies (confusing the number of arguments to a method
call).
Experience suggests that newbies don't find this confusing, or at
> But it's ugly. No amount of rationalization will make it not ugly.
The dollar sign is ugly? I beg to differ.
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Russ P. wrote:
On Dec 6, 4:32 am, Andreas Waldenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But that is not the way Python is meant to work. There are several
tennets in the Zen of Python that don't chime well with this approach.
"self" is a speaking identifier, "$" isn't.
Is "@" a "speaking identifier?
Russ P. wrote:
Python already uses shorthand extensively. How about "def"? For people
who are so worried about self-explanatory symbols, what the heck does
that stand for? Default? Defeat? Defect? Defunct? Defer?
That's pretty silly; it's pretty obvious that `def` means "define," and
even if
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:21:45 -, News123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No my question does anybody know a nice beginners book (or a learning CD
or on line tutorial)? Ideally it shouldn't be too serious and have a lot
of small nice mini-examples
For just pottering around with, your friend could
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:36:07 -0800, Mensanator wrote:
> It was extremely simple for me to fix the sympy module where I noticed
> it. I'm not saying it wasn't a problem, I'm saying it wasn't BROKEN.
If it wasn't broken, why did you need to fix it?
"Broken" means "not working", not "unfixable".
On Dec 6, 4:39 pm, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 1:21 pm, Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 6, 9:12 am, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 6, 1:02 am, Antoine De Groote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Allowing "$" as a substitute for "se
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:15:28 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:50:20 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
>>
>> > For your first
>> > project, pick something that's small enough that you think you could
>> > tac
Terry Reedy wrote:
Rasmus Fogh wrote:
Dear All,
For the first time I have come across a Python feature that seems
completely wrong. After the introduction of rich comparisons, equality
comparison does not have to return a truth value, and may indeed return
nothing at all and throw an error inst
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:01:40 -0800, Russ P. wrote:
>> -2 on this proposal.
>
> Did you get two votes in the Presidential election too? 8^)
You know, occasionally you stumble across people on the Internet who
aren't from the USA. Some of us even speak English almost as good as
native speakers *
On Dec 6, 3:40 pm, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
>
> I want to give a small beep,
> for windows there's message-beep,
> and there seems to be something like " curses" ,
> but that package seems to be totally broken in P2.5 for windows.
>
> Any other suggestions ?
>
> thanks,
> St
Stef Mientki wrote:
hello,
I want to give a small beep,
for windows there's message-beep,
and there seems to be something like " curses" ,
but that package seems to be totally broken in P2.5 for windows.
Any other suggestions ?
print chr(7)?
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On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
>
> I want to give a small beep,
> for windows there's message-beep,
> and there seems to be something like " curses" ,
> but that package seems to be totally broken in P2.5 for windows.
>
> Any other suggestions ?
Pr
hello,
I want to give a small beep,
for windows there's message-beep,
and there seems to be something like " curses" ,
but that package seems to be totally broken in P2.5 for windows.
Any other suggestions ?
thanks,
Stef Mientki
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST) "Russ P."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know much about Perl, but my understanding is that a dollar
> sign must be used every time a variable is dereferenced, as in bash or
> other shell languages. What we are proposing here is something
> entirely di
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:20:55 -, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Do you find this
(open, gzip.GzipFile)[Entry.endswith(".gz")](os.path.join(PatchesDir,
Entry), "r")
complicated or hard to understand? It's made up of very simple pieces,
combined according to very simple
On Dec 6, 11:19 pm, Philip Semanchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2008, at 4:47 PM, ats wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > This is my first posting to a Python group (and I'm starting with
> > Python seriously only now) , so bear with me if I make some mistakes.
>
> > I want to generate 3 diff
On 06 Dec 2008, at 20:38, Warren DeLano wrote:
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:22:38 -0800
From: Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "as" keyword woes
To: python-list@python.org
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm still in the dark as to what type of data could
even inspire t
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Daniel Fetchinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been
> >> discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido
> >> himself acknowledged that an alternative syntax makes perfe
"macc_200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
just starting programming and have an elementary question
after playing around with lists but cannot find >the answer
with googling.
I have a list of variables and I would like some of those
variables to be integers and
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:16:47 -0800, Fernando H. Sanches wrote:
> I agree that the tab/space thing should be changed. Would it be too hard
> to make the parser see if the indentation is consistent in the whole
> file?
*Something* has changed. I had a piece of code where, without realizing
it, I h
On Dec 6, 1:21 pm, Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 9:12 am, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 6, 1:02 am, Antoine De Groote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Allowing "$" as a substitute for "self" wouldn't require this new syntax.
>
> > > class C:
> > > d
On Dec 6, 2:09�pm, Wolfgang Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mensanator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Dec 6, 8:16?am, Wolfgang Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >> >On 05 Dec 2008 05:21:25 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> decla
On Dec 7, 9:01 am, David Bolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Johannes Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > This is very strange - when using "utf16", endianness should be detected
> > automatically. When I simply truncate the trailing zero byte, I receive:
>
> Any chance that whatever you used to "
On Dec 6, 2008, at 4:47 PM, ats wrote:
Hello,
This is my first posting to a Python group (and I'm starting with
Python seriously only now) , so bear with me if I make some mistakes.
I want to generate 3 different versions of a C++ source code,
basically injecting different flavours of inline
Terry Reedy wrote:
> macc_200 wrote:
>> Hi,
>> just starting programming and have an elementary question after
>> playing around with lists but cannot find the answer with googling.
>> I have a list of variables and I would like some of those variables to
>> be integers and some to be operators so
Johannes Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is very strange - when using "utf16", endianness should be detected
> automatically. When I simply truncate the trailing zero byte, I receive:
Any chance that whatever you used to "simply truncate the trailing
zero byte" also removed the BOM at th
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 5, 8:21 pm, "Daniel Fetchinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been
>> discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido
>> himself
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been
>> discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido
>> himself acknowledged that an alternative syntax makes perfect sense
>> and having both (old and new) in a future version of python is a
>> possibili
> Bad idea having two ways to do this. Pick one or the other!
Maybe only this alternative syntax for python 4000?
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Hello,
This is my first posting to a Python group (and I'm starting with
Python seriously only now) , so bear with me if I make some mistakes.
I want to generate 3 different versions of a C++ source code,
basically injecting different flavours of inline assembler depending
on target compiler/CPU.
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been
>> discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido
>> himself acknowledged that an alternative syntax makes perfect sense
>> and having both (old and new) in a future version of python is a
>> possibili
Warren DeLano wrote:
As someone somewhat knowledgable of how parsers work, I do not
understand why a method/attribute name "object_name.as(...)" must
necessarily conflict with a standalone keyword " as ". It seems to me
that it should be possible to unambiguously separate the two without
ambigu
On Dec 7, 6:20 am, "Mark Tolonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Johannes Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> >John Machin schrieb:
> >> On Dec 6, 5:36 am, Johannes Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> So UTF-16 has an explicit EOF marker within the text?
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I'm trying to safely rename a file without over-writing any existing
files, and I've run into a problem with file locks. Here's a naive way of
renaming without over-writing
By default on a Linux filesystem, flock() gives you an _advisory_ lock.
Other processes can touch
On Dec 5, 8:21 pm, "Daniel Fetchinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been
> discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido
> himself acknowledged that an alternative syntax makes perfect sense
> and having both (
On Dec 6, 9:12 am, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 1:02 am, Antoine De Groote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Allowing "$" as a substitute for "self" wouldn't require this new syntax.
>
> > class C:
> > def method($, arg):
> > $.value = arg
>
> > I'm strongly again
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On Dec 6, 9:15 am, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 4:32 am, Andreas Waldenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:02:54 -0800 (PST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > class C:
> > > def $method(arg):
> > > $value = arg
>
> > > (Note there's no po
On Dec 6, 12:47 am, "Patrick Mullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could I do something like this:
>
> def a.add(b): return a+b
>
> Outside of a class? Of course then that makes you think you could do
> 5.add(6) or something crzy like that. (I mean, you can do
> (5).__add__(6) but that's somet
Christian Heimes wrote:
Istvan Albert wrote:
A previous poster suggested that in this case the slowdown is caused
by the new io code being written in python rather than C.
For text mode Python 3's write() method is slower than Python 2.x's
method because all text is encoded. The slowdown is m
On Dec 6, 12:30 pm, Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz)
> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
> > >base
I got an interrupted system call exception in select and I don't know
what could have caused it. Here's the error:
select.select(inputs, [], [], 9)
error: (4, 'Interrupted system call')
Caught an exception, shutting down...
It's py2.3, on mach architecture.
I'm trying to figure out what caus
On Dec 6, 5:00 am, Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm planning to start learning Python now, using Python 3000.
> I have no previous Python skills, but I now Perl pretty well.
> I'm also well experienced with JavaScript.
>
> Any pointers and tips how I should go about getting into
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Warren DeLano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> There, I assert that 'object.as(class_reference)' is the simplest and
> most elegant generalization of this widely-used convention. Indeed, it
> is the only obvious concise answer, if you are limited to using methods
News123 wrote:
One of my 'non technical' friends complained about knowing nothing at
all about programming (though using computers regularly for mails / web
browsing / googling and downloading / cropping photos )
He wants to play a little with programming to stimulate parts of his
otehrwise idl
On Dec 7, 2:38 am, "Warren DeLano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:22:38 -0800
> > From: Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: "as" keyword woes
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I'm still in the dark as to what type of
On Dec 6, 1:38 pm, "Warren DeLano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There, I assert that 'object.as(class_reference)' is the simplest and
> most elegant generalization of this widely-used convention. Indeed, it
> is the only obvious concise answer, if you are limited to using methods
> for casting.
I
In my opinion, this thread is a crock of balony.
Python *occasionally* adds keywords after giving a warning or requiring
a future import in previous versions.
In 2.2, one had to 'from __future__ import generators' to make a
generator because doing so required the new 'yield' keyword.
In 2.3,
Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:
Hi, all. I've done some poking around, and can find roughly two million
different ways to attach attachments to an e-mail... but darn few to
detach them. Any suggestions? I'm assuming I'm just missing looking in
The Right Place, but thus-far, my Googling has been for naug
Rasmus Fogh wrote:
Dear All,
For the first time I have come across a Python feature that seems
completely wrong. After the introduction of rich comparisons, equality
comparison does not have to return a truth value, and may indeed return
nothing at all and throw an error instead. As a result, co
2008/12/6 News123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> No my question does anybody know a nice beginners book (or a learning CD
> or on line tutorial)? Ideally it shouldn't be too serious and have a lot
> of small nice mini-examples
How to Think Like a Computer Scientist - Learning with Python is a
good book fo
> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:22:38 -0800
> From: Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: "as" keyword woes
> To: python-list@python.org
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I'm still in the dark as to what type of data could
> even inspire the
> use of "as" as an object name.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:13:14 -0800 (PST):
> To clarify again,
> Is there some function like profile.PrintStats() which dynamically
> shows the stats before stopping the Profiler?
Try to (deep) copy the profiler instance and than call "PrintStats()"
on the copy.
Of course,
"Johannes Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Machin schrieb:
On Dec 6, 5:36 am, Johannes Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So UTF-16 has an explicit EOF marker within the text? I cannot find one
in original file, only some kind of starting sequence I suppose
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:50:20 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
>
> > For your first
> > project, pick something that's small enough that you think you could
> > tackle it in under 50 lines of Perl.
>
> Is there anything which *c
News123 wrote:
What's more painful is to learn which functianilty is in which library
and which library exists.
Yes and one mistake I still often find myself doing is, when confronted
with a particular problem, that I write some helper code to deal with
it. Of course later on I discover tha
macc_200 wrote:
Hi,
just starting programming and have an elementary question after playing
around with lists but cannot find the answer with googling.
I have a list of variables and I would like some of those variables to
be integers and some to be operators so the list would look something
l
En Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:20:27 -0200, David Shi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
I am looking for a concise working example of Python script calling COM
compliant .dll.
The best source of information is Mark Hammond's book "Python Programming
in Win32".
The sample chapters available are about
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz)
wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
> >based on Python 3000 and that is also geared at people with a Perl
> >b
I fully agree with Roy's answer.
COding small tasks is a good starting point. For quite some time you'll
be of course less efficient than with your previous language, but that's
part of the learning curve, isn't it.
I guess you'll learn the syntax rather quickly.
What's more painful is to learn w
Neal Becker wrote:
Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
Hi folks,
The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been
discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido
himself acknowledged that an alternative syntax makes perfect sense
and having both (old and new) in a future vers
Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
> The proposal is to allow this:
>
> class C:
> def self.method( arg ):
> self.value = arg
> return self.value
>
> instead of this:
>
> class C:
> def method( self, arg ):
> self.value = arg
> return self.value
Hmm,
I'd give the p
Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> The story of the explicit self in method definitions has been
> discussed to death and we all know it will stay. However, Guido
> himself acknowledged that an alternative syntax makes perfect sense
> and having both (old and new) in a future version of pyt
Mensanator wrote:
On Dec 5, 12:29 pm, "Hendrik van Rooyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Ben Finney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I hereby recommend “pish and tosh” for use by anyone who wants to
counter someone's point. It beats by a country furlong the invective
that has become regrettably common
Mensanator wrote:
On Dec 6, 8:16�am, Wolfgang Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 05 Dec 2008 05:21:25 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in
comp.lang.python:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:44:19 -0800, Matimus wrote:
The point wa
Hi,
just starting programming and have an elementary question after playing around
with lists but cannot find the answer with googling.
I have a list of variables and I would like some of those variables to be
integers and some to be operators so the list would look something like [5 *
4 - 4 + 6
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
>based on Python 3000 and that is also geared at people with a Perl
>background? Too early for that I guess..
Honestly, the differences between 2.x
On Dec 6, 2008, at 11:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
class ThisIsAClass:
def $some_method(arg1, arg2):
$value = arg1 + $foo + $bar + $baz * arg2
...
I think my biggest problem with this is what got me off Perl.
Add $, together with already used @ and maybe some other
identifiers
On Dec 5, 12:29 pm, "Hendrik van Rooyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Ben Finney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I hereby recommend “pish and tosh” for use by anyone who wants to
> >counter someone's point. It beats by a country furlong the invective
> >that has become regrettably common here in re
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