On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:50 PM, harrismh777 wrote:
> Westley Martínez wrote:
>
> I don't even know one person who has Win7 installed, running, and
> likes it...
> > >> not even one.
> >
> > Hi, m harris, nice to meet you. Now you do.
> >
> > To
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:35 PM, harrismh777 wrote:
> I am sorry, I was not clear and you rightly misunderstood my indirection.
> I am not claiming that software describes hardware. Please allow me to
> restate.
> Mathematics describes hardware, yet hardware is patentable and
> mathematics
Ian Kelly wrote:
There is at least one method of measuring it without resorting to
sales figures: logging user-agent data from web browsers. Is it
perfectly accurate? Of course not. But there are a number of
different organizations that do this, sampling hundreds of thousands
of different webs
Westley Martínez wrote:
I don't even know one person who has Win7 installed, running, and likes it...
> >> not even one.
> >
> > Hi, m harris, nice to meet you. Now you do.
> >
> > To the online community: Is there a name for trolling for A by
> > advocating for not-A in a way tha
geremy condra wrote:
I'm familiar with the case, and agree with Knuth (and you) that math
should not be patentable. I'd also agree that algorithms are
mathematics. Critically, algorithms*are not* software.
it isn't clear to me that software and
computation are synonymous. Lambda calculus on
On 4/13/2011 11:12 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Personally, I'm glad that most of Python Dev don't hang around here. We
are far better off if Python Dev, you know, actually Devs Python, rather
than answering (mostly) easy questions and getting stuck in tar-pits.
Since 3.2 was released 45 days ag
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:08 PM, John Ladasky wrote:
> I may regret wading into a flame-war, but...
As long as we leave it at that! :)
> I got started with Python in 2002. I took one look at TKinter, said
> "yuck!", and went searching for something else. Now, wxPython is a
> bit clunky for a P
I may regret wading into a flame-war, but...
I got started with Python in 2002. I took one look at TKinter, said
"yuck!", and went searching for something else. Now, wxPython is a
bit clunky for a Python programmer because of its strong ties to C++
-- but that's what I chose, and it has served m
rantingrick wrote:
> We all have jobs James, and we still find the time to help others out
> on the list.
I don't think "we" has quite the meaning you believe it does. Or
"help" for that matter.
> Guido is the head of a community. A community that,
> remember, *he* started! He built this whole t
>We all have jobs James, and we still find the time to help others out
Whose we? Can you point me to a thread within the last 6 months where
you actually -helped- someone?
>I think he has evolved into a complete jerk (if you ask me)
1) We didn't ask you.
2) If he's been under this rock of his an
On Apr 13, 10:43 pm, James Mills wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> > And who pissed in Guido's punch bowl anyway? Why is he such an elitist
> > now? Why can he not come over once and a while and rub shoulders with
> > the little people? He does not have to hang out ev
On Apr 13, 10:12 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Personally, I'm glad that most of Python Dev don't hang around here. We
> are far better off if Python Dev, you know, actually Devs Python, rather
> than answering (mostly) easy questions and getting stuck in tar-pits.
Nothing wrong with mediating ou
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> And who pissed in Guido's punch bowl anyway? Why is he such an elitist
> now? Why can he not come over once and a while and rub shoulders with
> the little people? He does not have to hang out every day, just drop
> in once a week or month at l
On 04/13/2011 07:37 PM, Eric Snow wrote:
I suppose you could try something like this:
class Outer:
global Inner
class Inner:
class Worker:
pass
class InnerSubclass(Inner):
class Worker(Inner.Worker):
pass
However, that pollutes your global namespace. If you are worr
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:53 PM, David Cournapeau wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Nathan Coulson wrote:
>
>> actually figured out a neat trick, mingw-w64 can link directly to the .dll.
>> gcc file.c python31.dll -o file.exe
>>
>> no .a needed.
>>
>> http://www.mingw.org/wiki/sampleDLL
On Apr 13, 10:01 pm, Ryan Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 19:10 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
> > On Apr 13, 8:29 pm, Ryan Kelly wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 17:39 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
[...]
> Funny you should bring that up. The folks on python-dev are currently
> making a substanti
On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 03:12 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:03:15 +1000, Ryan Kelly wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 11:46 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Ryan Kelly wrote:
> >> > I weep that your delightful rhetoric is limited to this
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Most of those don't have sensible automated responses. There aren't good
> automatic answers to “where should this line of code be broken to fit
> within 80 columns?” or “where should this end-line comment go instead?”.
And of course you are qu
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:03:15 +1000, Ryan Kelly wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 11:46 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Ryan Kelly wrote:
>> > I weep that your delightful rhetoric is limited to this neglected
>> > forum, where the guardians of python core deign not t
James Mills writes:
> What I really want is to fix up common "poor" (IHMO) coding styles
> in code that I have to maintain/review/etc. Things like:
> * Lines longer than 80 characters
> * Comments tacked on to the end of statements/expressions
> * Use of ' vs. "
> * More liberal use of Whitespace
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 19:10 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
> On Apr 13, 8:29 pm, Ryan Kelly wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 17:39 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
>
> I would LOVE to improve the doc, however first the student THEN the
> teacher. However in this forsaken land the "teachers" do not exist. We
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Nathan Coulson wrote:
> actually figured out a neat trick, mingw-w64 can link directly to the .dll.
> gcc file.c python31.dll -o file.exe
>
> no .a needed.
>
> http://www.mingw.org/wiki/sampleDLL
>
> (have yet to find out if it actually works yet, but so far loo
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Larry Hastings wrote:
>
> The problem: if you're currently in a nested class, you can't look up
> variables in the outer "class scope".
>
> For example, this code fails in Python 3:
>
> class Outer:
> class Inner:
> class Worker:
> pass
>
> class Inn
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> A step forward might be the ‘reindent.py’ program included with the
> Python distribution.
I have tried to use this tool - but it lacks certain features.
Maybe I could use this as a starting point in writing such a tool :)
What I really want
James Mills writes:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> > *Please* don't re-post his crap.
>
> Opps sorry :) I have never really known what to do with big-huge-long
> posts ? :)
Trim them to a representative sample. Or summarise, if there's no such
sample in the original.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:03 PM, David Cournapeau wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Nathan Coulson wrote:
>> Well, as the subject says, I am looking to find libpython31.a
>> [win64bit version] for use in a linux to windows 64bit cross compiler
>> [x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc], but seems to b
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 17:39 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
> You know Python is the best damn scripting language in the world.
> However we harbor a collective secret, an elephant sized skeleton in
> the community closet, a shameful scarlet letter of heartlessness and
> ego centric-ity. Why is this the
On Apr 13, 8:29 pm, Ryan Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 17:39 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
> Oh rr, if only the time you spent formulating such eloquent prose could
> be devoted instead to improving the documentation whose state you
> bemoan.
I would LOVE to improve the doc, however first the
James Mills writes:
> Does anyone know of a tool that will help with reformatting badly
> written code to be pep8 compliant ?
A step forward might be the ‘reindent.py’ program included with the
Python distribution.
Many PEP 8 violations can't be automatically fixed, they require the
programmer
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> *Please* don't re-post his crap.
Opps sorry :) I have never really known what to do with big-huge-long posts ? :)
Won't happen again!
cheers
James
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On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 11:46 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Ryan Kelly wrote:
> > I weep that your delightful rhetoric is limited to this neglected forum,
> > where the guardians of python core deign not to tread, and hence denied
> > its rightful place exalted amo
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Nathan Coulson wrote:
> Well, as the subject says, I am looking to find libpython31.a
> [win64bit version] for use in a linux to windows 64bit cross compiler
> [x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc], but seems to be missing.
>
> so far, tried installing it on a real 64bit win
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, James Mills
wrote:
> Does anyone know of a tool that will help with
> reformatting badly written code to be pep8 compliant ?
>
> a 2to3 for pep8 ?
In case there is no such tool (And I don't have the time to write one)
I've found this to be really useful (so far):
James Mills wrote:
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM, rantingrick wrote:
[weapon of mass-snippitude]
James,
*Please* don't re-post his crap.
~Ethan~
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Does anyone know of a tool that will help with
reformatting badly written code to be pep8 compliant ?
a 2to3 for pep8 ?
cheers
James
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On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 17:39 -0700, rantingrick wrote:
>
> -
> 1. Poor documentation (or lack thereof):
> -
> Everyone knows that dcoumentation is important however at the end of
> the day laziness is the rule of thumb f
On Apr 13, 8:10 pm, James Mills wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM, rantingrick wrote:
[...]
Hello James,
Whist your post was a bit abrasive i know you are a good person so
that is why i am replying.
> It would be nice for once to see you get off your
> lazy "butt" and actually do somet
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM, rantingrick wrote:
> You know Python is the best damn scripting language in the world.
> However we harbor a collective secret, an elephant sized skeleton in
> the community closet, a shameful scarlet letter of heartlessness and
> ego centric-ity. Why is this the
RR:
I do have to ask, before I feed the troll, where the hell is your
spellchecker? And you were talking about people being lazy? The irony is
killing me.
Now, you've been told you can fork Idol if you so choose, and you've
been told to write up information on how you want to replace TKInter
You know Python is the best damn scripting language in the world.
However we harbor a collective secret, an elephant sized skeleton in
the community closet, a shameful scarlet letter of heartlessness and
ego centric-ity. Why is this the case? Why have let it go this far?
And most importantly, why
Chris,
There are few more, depending which sybase database.
More info on this link: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Sybase
Cheers,
Ivan
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> http://www.freetds.org/
>
> There's likely also one you could get from your database admin.
>
> On Wed, A
In article ,
Michael Parker wrote:
>
>I'm reading Learning Python 4th Edition by Lutz. In the section on
>relative package imports, he says: "In Python 3.0, the `import
>modname` statement is always absolute, skipping the containing
>package=92s directory. In 2.6, this statement form still perfor
Howdy,
I'm trying to use virtualenv for the first time and having endless grief.
I have upgraded my python distribution to the latest 2.7 distribution and it
is completely clean. I have prepended my path environment variable with
c:\python27 and c:\python27\scripts.
I have installed:
setuptools
I'm not sure I'd call it a failure.
It didn't achieve the speedup they hoped for, but they did
successfully get CPython running overtop of LLVM. That is, their
intended approach didn't pan out, but they successfully implemented
their approach.
And just as importantly, Pypy was looking like it'd
http://www.freetds.org/
There's likely also one you could get from your database admin.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Chris M. Bartos
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are there any database drivers that allows Python to connect to remote
> Sybase Databases.
> I tried python-sybase, but somehow couldn't get i
Am 13.04.2011 10:17, schrieb Nathan Coulson:
> Well, as the subject says, I am looking to find libpython31.a
> [win64bit version] for use in a linux to windows 64bit cross compiler
> [x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc], but seems to be missing.
I wouldn't call it "missing", but "just not there". I had no
i
There's a postmortem on the failure of Unladen Swallow by one of the
developers at:
http://qinsb.blogspot.com/2011/03/unladen-swallow-retrospective.html
John Nagle
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Andrea Crotti writes:
>
> I'm not sure how but also this seems to work:
> In[20]: s = '2,"some, text",more text'
>
> In [21]: re.split(r'(?<=">),', s)
> Out[21]: ['2,"some, text",more text']
>
> I just wanted to try the lookahead functions, which I never use but
> sometimes might come handy.
Eh e
Jonno writes:
> All,
>
> I have the following unicode object:
> u'3,"Some, text",more text'
>
> and I want to split it into a list like this:
> [3,"Some, text", more text]
>
> In other words I want to split on the comma but not if it's inside a
> double-quote.
>
> Thanks.
I'm not sure how but al
Cornelius Kölbel wrote:
> I am wondering about loading modules.What is a good way of doing this?
>
> In my code I got one single function, where I need some functionality
> from a built-in module.
built-in modules are always imported by definition, so you cannot save space
or time by moving the
Hi,
Are there any database drivers that allows Python to connect to remote
Sybase Databases.
I tried python-sybase, but somehow couldn't get it to connect remotely,
only locally...?
Thanks for your help,
--
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bartos...@osu.edu
330-324-0018
Systems Developer
Arabidopsis B
Hello list,
I am wondering about loading modules.What is a good way of doing this?
In my code I got one single function, where I need some functionality
from a built-in module.
Is it a better way to load the module only within the function
pro: the function will only be hit every now and then
On 13/04/2011 15:59, Jonno wrote:
I have the following unicode object:
u'3,"Some, text",more text'
and I want to split it into a list like this:
[3,"Some, text", more text]
In other words I want to split on the comma but not if it's inside a
double-quote.
You want the csv module which is desi
All,
I have the following unicode object:
u'3,"Some, text",more text'
and I want to split it into a list like this:
[3,"Some, text", more text]
In other words I want to split on the comma but not if it's inside a
double-quote.
Thanks.
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> But I find it dumb to encode and decode a dictionary... So I would
> like to know how I if there is a good way of passing a dictionary to
> optparse and benefiting from its option management (check, error
> detection, etc).
I don't think you can get away from encoding/decoding the option dictiona
On Apr 8, 11:58 pm, Karim wrote:
> On 04/07/2011 10:37 AM, markolopa wrote:
>
> > Is there support/idioms/suggestions for usingoptparsewithout a
> >commandline?
>
> > I have a code which used to be called through subprocess. The whole
> > flow of the code is based on what 'options' object fromoptp
Hello Sir,
>
> We are using WATSUP(Python) package for MFC GUI automation(developed in
> Visual Studio 2005), We wanted your suppor, since we are having some issues
> listed below;
>
> 1.How can we get handle of Ultimate grid control (Ultimate tool box 7) in a
> MFC application so that we can
* 2011-04-12T13:26:48-07:00 * Chris Rebert wrote:
> I think Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw's comments on open-world sandbox video
> games (of all things) have a lot of applicability to why allowing
> full-on macros can be a bad idea.
> IOW, a language is usually better for having such discussions and
> ha
luca72 writes:
> hello i'm working with eric, running a program eric crash and when i
> try to open my project again with eric i see that myproject.py is
> deleted, but my project is still running there is a way to find
> myprogram.py file aving it in execution?
It's more about your operating sy
Larry Hastings wrote:
The problem: if you're currently in a nested class, you can't look up
variables in the outer "class scope".
For example, this code fails in Python 3:
class Outer:
class Inner:
class Worker:
pass
class InnerSubclass(Inner):
clas
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:46 AM, luca72 wrote:
> I have pyc file written with python 2.6.5 and i need to return to py
> file, can you give me some ideas tools script etc.
http://www.crazy-compilers.com/decompyle/
Cheers,
Chris
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I have pyc file written with python 2.6.5 and i need to return to py
file, can you give me some ideas tools script etc.
Luca
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Larry Hastings wrote:
> Yes, I could make the problem go away if I didn't have nested inner classes
> like this. But I like this structure. Any idea how I can make it work
> while preserving the nesting and inheritance?
It's probably better to make use of module
The problem: if you're currently in a nested class, you can't look up
variables in the outer "class scope".
For example, this code fails in Python 3:
class Outer:
class Inner:
class Worker:
pass
class InnerSubclass(Inner):
class Worker(Inner.Worker):
Actually I am trying to data communication between these 2 chips, but facing
troubles in deciding a protocol to do the same.
Do UART have any default protocols? For the moment I am trying to do it with
Strings but not sure if that's the right solution.
Regards,
Vivek
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:43
Well, as the subject says, I am looking to find libpython31.a
[win64bit version] for use in a linux to windows 64bit cross compiler
[x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc], but seems to be missing.
so far, tried installing it on a real 64bit windows system,
cabextract, as well as msiexec /a python-3.1.3.amd64
hello i'm working with eric, running a program eric crash and when i
try to open my project again with eric i see that myproject.py is
deleted, but my project is still running there is a way to find
myprogram.py file aving it in execution?
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