Sahil Tandon wrote:
> I've been tasked with converting some programs from Perl -> Python, and
> am (as will soon be obvious) new to the language. A few archive/google
> searches were inconclusive on a consensus approach, which is OK, but I
> just wonder if there is a more Python-esque way to do t
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 02:56 pm Sahil Tandon wrote:
> I've been tasked with converting some programs from Perl -> Python, and
> am (as will soon be obvious) new to the language. A few archive/google
> searches were inconclusive on a consensus approach, which is OK, but I
> just wonder if there is a m
On 1 Sep 2011 08:54, "babbu Pehlwan" wrote:
>
> I have written a http server using BaseHTTPServer module. Now I want
> to instantiate it through another python script. The issue here is
> after instantiate the control doesn't come back till the server is
> running. Please suggest.
What did a web
I've been tasked with converting some programs from Perl -> Python, and
am (as will soon be obvious) new to the language. A few archive/google
searches were inconclusive on a consensus approach, which is OK, but I
just wonder if there is a more Python-esque way to do the following in
Python 2.7.1:
On 8/21/2011 5:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Chris Angelico wrote:
A new and surprising mode of network failure would be indicated by a
new subclass of IOError or EnvironmentError.
/s/would/should/
I don't see why you expect this, when *existing* network-related failures
aren't:
import so
I have written a http server using BaseHTTPServer module. Now I want
to instantiate it through another python script. The issue here is
after instantiate the control doesn't come back till the server is
running. Please suggest.
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In article <4e5ed670$0$29981$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>Er, yes, just like I suggested in my opening paragraph, and as I answered
>following the bit you marked as snipped :)
Oops, so you did (went back and re-read it). Must have gotten
interrupted and lost track
Hi
I need to access the dictionary of the script that I am running through
my vc++ application by embedding python.
I am linking to python dynamically. I want to obtain the dictionary of
the script and access the variables declared in the script.
However, with the PyObject * that I get from the d
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> Python classes have a lot of dynamism made possible by the fact that methods
>> are just wrappers around functions with an explicitly declared "self". That
>> dynamism is rarely u
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Python classes have a lot of dynamism made possible by the fact that methods
> are just wrappers around functions with an explicitly declared "self". That
> dynamism is rarely used, but not *that* rarely, and is very useful when
> used. Imp
On Aug 31, 7:37 pm, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Ian Kelly wrote:
> > if sys.version_info < (3,):
> > getDictValues = dict.itervalues
> > else:
> > getDictValues = dict.values
>
> > (which is basically what the OP was doing in the first place).
>
> And which he seemed to think didn't work for so
On 08/31/11 18:31, Gregory Ewing wrote:
The Python process should also be able to set its own
limits using resource.setrlimit().
A new corner of stdlib that I've never poked at. Thanks for the
suggestion. Disappointed though that it doesn't seem to have
docstrings on the functions, so I had
Chris Torek wrote:
>>There are also static methods, which don't receive any special first
>>argument, plus any other sort of method you can invent, by creating
>>descriptors... but that's getting into fairly advanced territory. ...
> [rest snipped]
>
> I am not sure whether T. Goodchild was askin
Chris Angelico wrote:
> Ah well, was worth a try. Raising exceptions smells wrong for this,
> but peppering your code with sentinel checks isn't much better. I
> don't really know what would be a good solution to this... except
> maybe this, which was proposed a few years ago and which I'd never
>
Daniel wrote:
> And I have to keep the code simple for non CS people to run
> the actual experiment.
Do you think the software in the Apple iPod is "simple"? Or Microsoft
Windows? No. You need to keep the *interface* simple. The internal details
can be as complicated as they are needed to be.
Sa
Ian Kelly wrote:
if sys.version_info < (3,):
getDictValues = dict.itervalues
else:
getDictValues = dict.values
(which is basically what the OP was doing in the first place).
And which he seemed to think didn't work for some
reason, but it seems fine as far as I can tell:
Python 2.7 (
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
As far as I know, ulimit ("user limit") won't help. It can limit the amount
of RAM available to a process, but that just makes the process start using
virtual memory more quickly.
ulimit -v is supposed to set the maximum amount of virtual
memory the process can use.
It
On 8/31/2011 1:12 PM, Prasad, Ramit wrote:
def double(obj): return 2*obj.value
class C:
def __init__(self, val):
>> self.value = val
c = C(3)
>> C.double = double
>> c.doub = double
>> # not c.double as that would mask access to C.double in c.double()
>> print(double(c),
C.double(c)
On 8/31/2011 12:45 PM, Travis Parks wrote:
I was a little disappointed the other day when I realized that
closures were read-only.
'Were', in 2.x. The standard 2.x workaround for a single nonlocal is to
wrap it in a list.
def f():
i = [0]
def g(): i[0] += 1
for j in range(5): g()
2011/8/31 Yaşar Arabacı :
> @Ian: Thanks for you comments. I indeed didn't need the _sozcuk attribute at
> all, so I deleted it. My class's addition and multiplication works without
> overwriting __add__ and __mul__ because, this class uses unicode's __add__
> and __mul__ than creates a new kelime
On 2011-08-31, Chris Torek wrote:
> (I realize this thread is old. I have been away for a few weeks.
> I read through the whole thread, though, and did not see anyone
> bring up this one particular point: there is already a linting
> script that handles this.)
Yes. I've found pylint... A weird
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Prasad, Ramit
wrote:
> It seems to me that if I add a function to the list of class attributes it
> will automatically wrap with "self" but adding it to the object directly will
> not wrap the function as a method. Can somebody explain why? I would have
> thoug
(I realize this thread is old. I have been away for a few weeks.
I read through the whole thread, though, and did not see anyone
bring up this one particular point: there is already a linting
script that handles this.)
>On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Gerrat Rickert
> wrote:
>> With surprising
In article ,
Terry Reedy wrote:
>I would expect that catching socket.error (or even IOError) should catch
>all of those.
>
>"exception socket.error
>A subclass of IOError ...
Except that, as Steven D'Aprano almost noted elsethread, it isn't
(a subclass of IOError -- the note was that it is not
>In article <0dc26f12-2541-4d41-8678-4fa53f347...@g9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
T. Goodchild asked, in part:
>>... One of the things that bugs me is the requirement that all class
>>methods have 'self' as their first parameter.
In article <4e5e5628$0$29977$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>
Steven
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Alex van der Spek wrote:
> I have a text file that uses both '\r' and '\r\n' end-of-line terminations.
>
> The '\r' terminates the first 25 lines or so, the remainder is termiated
> with '\r\n'
> Is there a way to make it read one line at a time, regardless of th
I have a text file that uses both '\r' and '\r\n' end-of-line terminations.
The '\r' terminates the first 25 lines or so, the remainder is termiated
with '\r\n'
Reading this file like this:
for line in open(filename,'r'):
line= #Do whatever needs doing...
The first line
On Aug 31, 2:03 pm, "bruno.desthuilli...@gmail.com"
wrote:
> On 31 août, 18:45, Travis Parks wrote:
>
> > I was a little disappointed the other day when I realized that
> > closures were read-only. I like to use closures quite a bit.
>
> They are not _strictly_ read only, but Python being first a
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 14:29, Andrew McLean wrote:
> I understand that Python Tools for Visual Studio doesn't work with VS
> Express, but does work with the (free) VS 2010 Shell. Does anyone know if
> you can install VS Express and VS Shell on the same machine?
Yes, because the shell and Expre
I understand that Python Tools for Visual Studio doesn't work with VS
Express, but does work with the (free) VS 2010 Shell. Does anyone know
if you can install VS Express and VS Shell on the same machine?
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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Daniel wrote:
>> Do you only ever have one top-level loop that you would be naming? If
> no, unfortunately not. The rough structure is several loops deep, and
> I need to break/continue/restart many of them.
> Continue is used more than break, because most of the ti
> Do you only ever have one top-level loop that you would be naming? If
no, unfortunately not. The rough structure is several loops deep, and
I need to break/continue/restart many of them.
Continue is used more than break, because most of the time that I find
some strange value, I'd just _continue
> one more idea, a kind of named loop:
interesting idea, thanks.
>
> When it become too complicate, I use state
> machine:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite-state_machine
I unsuccessfully played a bit with a FSM, but there is a lot of data
that is passed around between the states and a lot of
On 31 août, 18:45, Travis Parks wrote:
> I was a little disappointed the other day when I realized that
> closures were read-only. I like to use closures quite a bit.
They are not _strictly_ read only, but Python being first and foremost
an OO language, it's usually way simpler to use OO instead
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Prasad, Ramit
wrote:
>>def double(obj): return 2*obj.value
>>
>>class C:
>> def __init__(self, val):
>> self.value = val
>>
>>c = C(3)
>>C.double = double
>>c.doub = double
>># not c.double as that would mask access to C.double in c.double() below
>>pr
On Aug 31, 2:18 pm, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Travis Parks wrote:
> > Am I doing something wrong, here? nonlocal isn't registering. Which
> > version did this get incorporated?
>
> 3.0
Ah, okay. It would be really useful for unit testing. Unfortunately, I
want to make
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Travis Parks wrote:
> Am I doing something wrong, here? nonlocal isn't registering. Which
> version did this get incorporated?
3.0
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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Daniel wrote:
>
> Has anyone an idea on a nice way to write breaks/continues/redos for
> deeply
> nested loops?
>
Do you only ever have one top-level loop that you would be naming? If
so, put that loop into a function and use return instead of break.
Unfortunately
On Aug 31, 1:51 pm, Travis Parks wrote:
> On Aug 31, 1:18 pm, Chris Rebert wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Travis Parks
> > wrote:
> > > I was a little disappointed the other day when I realized that
> > > closures were read-only. I like to use closures quite a bit.
>
> > Assuming
On Aug 31, 1:18 pm, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Travis Parks wrote:
> > I was a little disappointed the other day when I realized that
> > closures were read-only. I like to use closures quite a bit.
>
> Assuming I'm intuiting your question correctly, then you're incorr
@Ian: Thanks for you comments. I indeed didn't need the _sozcuk attribute at
all, so I deleted it. My class's addition and multiplication works without
overwriting __add__ and __mul__ because, this class uses unicode's __add__
and __mul__ than creates a new kelime instance with return value of thos
On Aug 30, 1:34 pm, Philip Semanchuk wrote:
> Hi all,
> I was reminded today (via Slashdot) of Python Tools for Visual Studio which
> was discussed on this list back in March
> (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2011-March/1267662.html) and
> has reached version 1.0. Is anyone here u
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Travis Parks wrote:
> I was a little disappointed the other day when I realized that
> closures were read-only. I like to use closures quite a bit.
Assuming I'm intuiting your question correctly, then you're incorrect;
they are "read/write". You just need a `nonlo
>def double(obj): return 2*obj.value
>
>class C:
> def __init__(self, val):
> self.value = val
>
>c = C(3)
>C.double = double
>c.doub = double
># not c.double as that would mask access to C.double in c.double() below
>print(double(c), C.double(c), c.double(), c.doub(c))
Sorry if I get
Hi, answers below...
Am 31.08.2011 14:18, schrieb Fokke Nauta:
"Paul Kölle" wrote in message
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Hi,
Am 30.08.2011 22:00, schrieb Fokke Nauta:
Hi all,
I am completely new to Python, but I'm confronted with a problem I can't
solve.
Wel
2011/8/31 Yaşar Arabacı :
> I made a class like this (I shortened it just to show the point), what do
> you think about it, do you think it is the python way of subclassing str (or
> unicode in this case)
You don't need the _sozcuk attribute at all here. It's just the same
as the value of the uni
On 8/31/2011 7:43 AM, Yaşar Arabacı wrote:
Hİ,
I originally posted my question to here:
http://stackoverflow.com/q/7255655/886669 Could you people please look
at it and enlighten me a little bit? I would appreciate an answer either
from here or at stackoverflow.
I believe two people already ga
On 31 August 2011 17:45, Travis Parks wrote:
> I was a little disappointed the other day when I realized that
> closures were read-only. I like to use closures quite a bit.
>
> Can someone explain why this limitation exists? Secondly, since I can
> cheat by wrapping the thing being closure-ified,
I was a little disappointed the other day when I realized that
closures were read-only. I like to use closures quite a bit.
Can someone explain why this limitation exists? Secondly, since I can
cheat by wrapping the thing being closure-ified, how can I write a
simple wrapper that has all the same
On 31/08/2011 04:39, Andreas wrote:
Am 30.08.2011 23:49, schrieb MRAB:
The key phrase is "argument tuple". The arguments passed to a Python
call are always a tuple, not PyFloat_Object.
You can build a tuple from the PyFloat_Object using:
Py_BuildValue("(O)", float_object)
The "(O)" says
On Aug 31, 5:51 pm, Daniel wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I have some complicated loops of the following form
>
> for c in configurations: # loop 1
> while nothing_bad_happened: # loop 2
> while step1_did_not_work: # loop 3
> for substeps in step1 # loop 4a
> # at t
On 8/31/2011 10:35 AM, T. Goodchild wrote:
But one of the things that bugs me is the requirement that all class
methods have 'self' as their first parameter. On a gut level, to me
this seems to be at odds with Python’s dedication to simplicity.
Actually, it is a consequence of Python's dedica
On 2011-08-31, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Well obviously the C++ people thought so :)
Well _that's_ certainly a ringing endorsement in the context of
designing a language that's easy to understand and use.
;)
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Where's SANDY DUNCAN?
On 8/31/2011 8:37 AM king6c...@gmail.com said...
In fact,UDP is enough for me,I heared that tcpdump and netcat can store
and resend the udp packages to get the replay effect,but I don't know
how,
That may be, but I've never tried that.
or is there some better way? I am working on a Linux ser
John Gordon wrote:
> In <0dc26f12-2541-4d41-8678-4fa53f347...@g9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> "T.
> Goodchild" writes:
>
>> So why is 'self' necessary on class methods? It seems to me that the
>> most common practice is that class methods *almost always* operate on
>> the instance that called them
I made a class like this (I shortened it just to show the point), what do
you think about it, do you think it is the python way of subclassing str (or
unicode in this case)
# -*- coding:utf-8 -*-class kelime(unicode):
def __init__(self,sozcuk):
self._sozcuk = sozcuk
def __getattr
Dear All,
I have some complicated loops of the following form
for c in configurations: # loop 1
while nothing_bad_happened: # loop 2
while step1_did_not_work: # loop 3
for substeps in step1 # loop 4a
# at this point, we may have to
-leave lo
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Martin v. Loewis wrote:
> if sys.version_info < (3,):
> def getDictValues(dict):
> return dict.itervalues()
> else:
> def getDictValues(dict):
> return dict.values()
The extra level of function call indirection is unnecessary here.
Better to write it a
T. Goodchild wrote:
> So why is 'self' necessary on class methods?
I assume you are talking about the declaration in the method signature:
def method(self, args): ...
rather than why methods have to be called using self.method. If not, there's
already a FAQ for that second question:
http://d
In fact,UDP is enough for me,I heared that tcpdump and netcat can store and
resend the udp packages to get the replay effect,but I don't know how, or is
there some better way? I am working on a Linux server and only some basic
terminal tools are available :)
2011/8/31 Emile van Sebille
> On 8/31
Hello,
2011/8/31 T. Goodchild :
> But one of the things that bugs me is the requirement that all class
> methods have 'self' as their first parameter. On a gut level, to me
> this seems to be at odds with Python’s dedication to simplicity.
I think the answer to this question is part of the zen o
On 2011-08-31, T. Goodchild wrote:
> I?m new to Python, and I love it. The philosophy of the
> language (and of the community as a whole) is beautiful to me.
>
> But one of the things that bugs me is the requirement that all
> class methods have 'self' as their first parameter. On a gut
> level,
On 8/31/2011 7:35 AM T. Goodchild said...
Just curious about the rationale behind this part of the language.
http://docs.python.org/faq/design.html
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In <0dc26f12-2541-4d41-8678-4fa53f347...@g9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> "T.
Goodchild" writes:
> So why is 'self' necessary on class methods? It seems to me that the
> most common practice is that class methods *almost always* operate on
> the instance that called them. It would make more sense
On 8/31/2011 6:35 AM king6c...@gmail.com said...
hi,
This is a question not specific to Python,but its related somehow,and
I believe I can get some help from your fellow:)
I am doing my work on a server service program on Linux that
processes the packages sent to the socket it listens.Their
I’m new to Python, and I love it. The philosophy of the language (and
of the community as a whole) is beautiful to me.
But one of the things that bugs me is the requirement that all class
methods have 'self' as their first parameter. On a gut level, to me
this seems to be at odds with Python’s d
I have a set of complex libraries that I have wrapped with swig. I
would like to create a python egg of the swig generated python files
and the pre-built libraries. The libraries have a lot of
dependencies and I don't want to force the user to get all the
dependencies to try to build the librar
"Laszlo Nagy" wrote in message
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>
>>> Where it says:
>>>
Installation and setup of server can be as easy as follows:
$ easy_installPyWebDAV
$ davserver-D/tmp-n-J
Starting upPyWebDAV server(version0.9.2-dev)
On 2011-08-31, Matty Sarro wrote:
> Its possible using TCPDUMP and wireshark. however its a bit of a
> manual process (open the pcap in wireshark, select the correct tcp
> stream, and extract the file).
Presumably the OP knows the port IP address and port number on which
the server is listening,
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
>> You don't know that, an implementation may for example set __bultins__
>> to None, prior to returning, its not an unreasonable thing to do and
>> the docs don't say they can't.
>
> I haven't studied the docs but I'm certain that such an
Its possible using TCPDUMP and wireshark. however its a bit of a
manual process (open the pcap in wireshark, select the correct tcp
stream, and extract the file). I did this to show a vulnerability in
how medical images were transmitted in a university hospital once :)
Here are some guides, maybe
$ man limits.conf
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 31, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Twice in a couple of weeks, I have locked up my PC by running a Python 2.5
> script that tries to create a list that is insanely too big.
>
> In the first case, I (stupidly) did something like:
>
> m
On 08/31/2011 02:40 PM, Chris Withers wrote:
On 31/08/2011 13:33, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I am using Linux desktops; both incidents were with Python 2.5. Do newer
versions of Python respond to this sort of situation more gracefully?
Ironically, Windows does better here and dumps you out with a
Where it says:
Installation and setup of server can be as easy as follows:
$ easy_installPyWebDAV
$ davserver-D/tmp-n-J
Starting upPyWebDAV server(version0.9.2-dev)
ATTENTION: Authentication disabled!
Serving datafrom /tmp
Listening on localhost(8008)
Yes, but that's Unix/Linux
Am 31.08.2011 03:43, schrieb Travis Parks:
> I am writing a simple algorithms library that I want to work for both
> Python 2.7 and 3.x. I am writing some functions like distinct, which
> work with dictionaries under the hood. The problem I ran into is that
> I am calling itervalues or values depen
hi,
This is a question not specific to Python,but its related somehow,and I
believe I can get some help from your fellow:)
I am doing my work on a server service program on Linux that processes the
packages sent to the socket it listens.Their is already a old such service
listening on the port
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Twice in a couple of weeks, I have locked up my PC by running a Python 2.5
> script that tries to create a list that is insanely too big.
>
> In the first case, I (stupidly) did something like:
>
> mylist = [0]*12345678901234
>
> After leaving the machine for THREE DAYS
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Chris Withers wrote:
>
> On 31/08/2011 13:33, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> I am using Linux desktops; both incidents were with Python 2.5. Do newer
>> versions of Python respond to this sort of situation more gracefully?
>
> Ironically, Windows does better here and
Chris Withers wrote:
> On 31/08/2011 13:33, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> I am using Linux desktops; both incidents were with Python 2.5. Do newer
>> versions of Python respond to this sort of situation more gracefully?
>
> Ironically, Windows does better here and dumps you out with a
> MemoryError b
On 31/08/2011 13:33, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I am using Linux desktops; both incidents were with Python 2.5. Do newer
versions of Python respond to this sort of situation more gracefully?
Ironically, Windows does better here and dumps you out with a
MemoryError before slowly recovering.
Linux
"Laszlo Nagy" wrote in message
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>
>> What do you mean by STFW?
> Search The Fucking Web ?
OK, the modern version of RTFM.
>> I wasn't aware that easy_install was a utility. Downloaded and installed
>> the
>> Windows version and run eas
Twice in a couple of weeks, I have locked up my PC by running a Python 2.5
script that tries to create a list that is insanely too big.
In the first case, I (stupidly) did something like:
mylist = [0]*12345678901234
After leaving the machine for THREE DAYS (!!!) I eventually was able to get
to a
"Paul Kölle" wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Am 30.08.2011 22:00, schrieb Fokke Nauta:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am completely new to Python, but I'm confronted with a problem I can't
>> solve.
> Welcome to python.
>
>> This is my question:
> [snip]
Hi All,
If I have subparsers set up and do:
myscript.py --help
I get the summary for each of the top-level commands, but to get the
help for each sub-command I have to do:
myscript.py subcommand --help
Is there any way I can get "myscript.py --help" to show the help
hierarchically, includi
What do you mean by STFW?
Search The Fucking Web ?
I wasn't aware that easy_install was a utility. Downloaded and installed the
Windows version and run easy_install pywebdav.
It downloaded something, installed something and finished something.
Then it's installed!
But, once again, don't know
Hİ,
I originally posted my question to here:
http://stackoverflow.com/q/7255655/886669 Could you people please look at it
and enlighten me a little bit? I would appreciate an answer either from here
or at stackoverflow. Thanks in advance.
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"Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" wrote in message
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> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>
>> "Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" wrote in message
>> news:6545843.yvfaxzv...@pointedears.de...
>
> It's attribution _line_, not attribution novel. Your quotes are hardly
> legible, too ?
Hi,
Am 30.08.2011 22:00, schrieb Fokke Nauta:
Hi all,
I am completely new to Python, but I'm confronted with a problem I can't
solve.
Welcome to python.
This is my question:
[snip]
I installed Python 3.2.1 and extracted the packages PyWebDAV and PyXML. Now
I have a working Python app and
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