On 8/1/2012 12:45 AM, levi nie wrote:
my code in Eclipse:
dict.fromkeys(['China','America'])
In Eclipse, I presume this prints nothing, as is normal for an editor.
print dict is,dict
output: dict is type 'dict'
This is red herring. The shell does the same with that line. It is not
On 01/08/2012 00:31, David wrote:
On 01/08/2012, lipska the kat lip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 31/07/12 14:52, David wrote:
[1] as in beer
[2] for research purposes
There's one (as in 1 above) in the pump for you.
Great, more beer = better research = \o/\o/\o/
But, pump sounds a bit extreme
As I wrote I found many nice things (Pipe, Manager and so on), but
actually even
this seems to work: yes I did read the documentation.
Sorry, I did not want be offensive.
I was just surprised that it worked better than I expected even
without Pipes and Queues, but now I understand why..
On 01/08/12 09:06, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 01/08/2012 00:31, David wrote:
On 01/08/2012, lipska the kat lip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 31/07/12 14:52, David wrote:
[1] as in beer
[2] for research purposes
There's one (as in 1 above) in the pump for you.
Great, more beer = better research =
I would also recommend changing your birthday as well ;)
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2012/8/1 Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com:
I was just surprised that it worked better than I expected even
without Pipes and Queues, but now I understand why..
Anyway now I would like to be able to detach subprocesses to avoid the
nasty code reloading that I was talking about in another
On 08/01/2012 12:45 AM, levi nie wrote:
my code in Eclipse:
dict.fromkeys(['China','America'])
print dict is,dict
output: dict is type 'dict'
my code in Python Shell:
dict.fromkeys(['China','America'])
output:{'America': None, 'China': None}
Output in Python Shell is what i wanna,but
Thanks, there is another thing which is able to interact with running
processes in theory:
https://github.com/lmacken/pyrasite
I don't know though if it's a good idea to use a similar approach for
production code, as far as I understood it uses gdb.. In theory
though I could be able to set
2012/8/1 Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com:
On thing is sure: os.fork() doesn't work under Microsoft Windows. Under
Unix, I'm not sure if os.fork() can be mixed with
multiprocessing.Process.start(). I could not find official documentation on
that. This must be tested on your actual platform.
We're having some really obscure problems with gzip.
There is a program running with python2.7 on a 2.6.18-128.el5xen (red
hat I think) kernel.
Now this program does the following:
if filename == 'out2.txt':
out2 = open('out2.txt')
elif filename == 'out2.txt.gz'
out2 =
Yes I know we don't care about Windows for this particular project..
I think mixing multiprocessing and fork should not harm, but probably
is unnecessary since I'm already in another process after the fork so
I can just make it run what I want.
Otherwise is there a way to do same thing only
On 2012-08-01 12:39, andrea crotti wrote:
We're having some really obscure problems with gzip.
There is a program running with python2.7 on a 2.6.18-128.el5xen (red
hat I think) kernel.
Now this program does the following:
if filename == 'out2.txt':
out2 = open('out2.txt')
elif filename
2012/8/1 Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com:
On 2012-08-01 12:39, andrea crotti wrote:
We're having some really obscure problems with gzip.
There is a program running with python2.7 on a 2.6.18-128.el5xen (red
hat I think) kernel.
Now this program does the following:
if filename ==
In article mailman.2809.1343809166.4697.python-l...@python.org,
Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com wrote:
Yes, I think that is correct. Instead of detaching a child process, you
can create independent processes and use other frameworks for IPC. For
example, Pyro. It is not as effective as
The most effective IPC is usually through shared memory. But there is no
OS independent standard Python module that can communicate over shared
memory.
It's true that shared memory is faster than serializing objects over a
TCP connection. On the other hand, it's hard to imagine anything
very simple right? But sometimes we get a checksum error.
Do you have a traceback showing the actual error?
- CRC is at the end of the file and is computed against the whole
file (last 8 bytes)
- after the CRC there is the \ marker for the EOF
- readline() doesn't trigger the
On 2012-08-01 12:59, Roy Smith wrote:
In article mailman.2809.1343809166.4697.python-l...@python.org,
Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com wrote:
Yes, I think that is correct. Instead of detaching a child process, you
can create independent processes and use other frameworks for IPC. For
On 01/08/2012, lipska the kat lip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 01/08/12 09:06, Mark Lawrence wrote:
You complete ignoramus, if it gets poured in advance that's no good to
anybody as it'll go flat. Has to stay in the pump until you're ready to
drink it from the glass. Don't you know anything about
David, 01.08.2012 13:59:
On 01/08/2012, lipska the kat wrote:
On 01/08/12 09:06, Mark Lawrence wrote:
You complete ignoramus, if it gets poured in advance that's no good to
anybody as it'll go flat. Has to stay in the pump until you're ready to
drink it from the glass. Don't you know
On 7/31/2012 11:49 PM, Mark Hammond wrote:
On 1/08/2012 10:48 AM, Damon Register wrote:
1. though I have looked in a few readme files, I don't see instructions for
installing what I have just built using MSVC. Where can I find the
instructions for installing after building with MSVC?
Full traceback:
Exception in thread Thread-8:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /user/sim/python/lib/python2.7/threading.py, line 530, in
__bootstrap_inner
self.run()
File /user/sim/tests/llif/AutoTester/src/AutoTester2.py, line 67, in run
self.processJobData(jobData, logger)
2012/8/1 Roy Smith r...@panix.com:
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Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com wrote:
Yes, I think that is correct. Instead of detaching a child process, you
can create independent processes and use other frameworks for IPC. For
example,
- The file is written with the linux gzip program.
- no I can't reproduce the error with the same exact file that did
failed, that's what is really puzzling,
How do you make sure that no process is reading the file before it is
fully flushed to disk?
Possible way of testing for this kind of
2012/8/1 Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com:
there seems to be no clear pattern and just randmoly fails. The file
is also just open for read from this program,
so in theory no way that it can be corrupted.
Yes, there is. Gzip stores CRC for compressed *blocks*. So if the file is
not
Thanks a lotl, someone that writes on the file while reading might be
an explanation, the problem is that everyone claims that they are only
reading the file.
If that is true, then make that file system read only. Soon it will turn
out who is writing them. ;-)
Apparently this file is
On 2012-08-01, Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com wrote:
As I wrote I found many nice things (Pipe, Manager and so on), but
actually even
this seems to work: yes I did read the documentation.
Sorry, I did not want be offensive.
I was just surprised that it worked better than I expected even
things get more tricky, because I can't use queues and pipes to
communicate with a running process that it's noit my child, correct?
Yes, I think that is correct.
I don't understand why detaching a child process on Linux/Unix would
make IPC stop working. Can somebody explain?
It is
Yes, I think that is correct.
I don't understand why detaching a child process on Linux/Unix would
make IPC stop working. Can somebody explain?
It is implemented with shared memory. I think (although I'm not 100%
sure) that shared memory is created *and freed up* (shm_unlink()
system call)
Hi All,
I'm pleased to announce the release of xlrd 0.8.0:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/xlrd/0.8.0
This release finally lands the support for both .xls and .xlsx files.
Many thanks to John Machin for all his work on making this happen.
Opening of .xlsx files is seamless, just use xlrd as you
2012/8/1 Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com:
So detaching the child process will not make IPC stop working. But exiting
from the original parent process will. (And why else would you detach the
child?)
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Well it makes perfect sense if it
my code in Eclipse:
dict.fromkeys(['China','America'])
print dict is,dict
output: dict is type 'dict'
my code in Python Shell:
dict.fromkeys(['China','America'])
output:{'America': None, 'China': None}
Output in Python Shell is what i wanna,but why not in Eclipse?
On 7/31/2012 11:49 PM, Mark Hammond wrote:
On 1/08/2012 10:48 AM, Damon Register wrote:
1. though I have looked in a few readme files, I don't see instructions for
installing what I have just built using MSVC. Where can I find the
instructions for installing after building with
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:01:45 +0100, andrea crotti wrote:
Full traceback:
Exception in thread Thread-8:
DANGER DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!!
Why didn't you say that there were threads involved? That puts a
completely different perspective on the problem.
I *was* going to write back and
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/31/2012 4:49 PM, Chris Kaynor wrote:
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
Another example: KeyError and IndexError are both subscript errors,
but there is no SubscriptError superclass, even though both work
thru the same mechanism -- __getitem__. The
2012/8/1 Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:01:45 +0100, andrea crotti wrote:
Full traceback:
Exception in thread Thread-8:
DANGER DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!!
Why didn't you say that there were threads involved? That puts a
completely
Thank you guys so much! I am so excited to finally have xlsx so my users
don't have extra steps!
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.ukwrote:
Hi All,
I'm pleased to announce the release of xlrd 0.8.0:
On 8/1/2012 11:53 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/31/2012 4:49 PM, Chris Kaynor wrote:
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
one wants to catch both errors, one can easily enough. To continue
the example above, popping an empty list and empty set produce
Thanks a lot, that makes a lot of sense.. I haven't given this detail
before because I didn't write this code, and I forgot that there were
threads involved completely, I'm just trying to help to fix this bug.
Your explanation makes a lot of sense, but it's still surprising that
even just
On 8/1/2012 7:47 AM, Damon Register wrote:
On 7/31/2012 11:49 PM, Mark Hammond wrote:
On 1/08/2012 10:48 AM, Damon Register wrote:
1. though I have looked in a few readme files, I don't see
instructions for
installing what I have just built using MSVC. Where can I find the
2012/8/1 Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com:
Thanks a lot, that makes a lot of sense.. I haven't given this detail
before because I didn't write this code, and I forgot that there were
threads involved completely, I'm just trying to help to fix this bug.
Your explanation makes a lot of sense,
Make sure that file objects are not shared between threads. If that is
possible. It will probably solve the problem (if that is related to
threads).
Well I just have to create a lock I guess right?
That is also a solution. You need to call file.read() inside an acquired
lock.
with lock:
On 08/01/2012 11:26 AM, Prasad, Ramit wrote:
my code in Eclipse:
dict.fromkeys(['China','America'])
print dict is,dict
output: dict is type 'dict'
my code in Python Shell:
dict.fromkeys(['China','America'])
output:{'America': None, 'China': None}
Output in Python Shell is what i
On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:25 AM, andrea crotti wrote:
[beanstalk] does look nice and I would like to have something like that..
But since I have to convince my boss of another external dependency I
think it might be worth
to try out zeromq instead, which can also do similar things and looks
more
On 2012-08-01, Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com wrote:
things get more tricky, because I can't use queues and pipes to
communicate with a running process that it's noit my child, correct?
Yes, I think that is correct.
I don't understand why detaching a child process on Linux/Unix would
make
Hi Guys,
OK, taking Chris' advice, I installed on a Snow Leopard machine:
cheyenne:dist marklivingstone$ ls ~/Downloads/
About Downloads.lpdf
numpy-1.6.2-py2.7-python.org-macosx10.3.dmg wxMac-2.8.12.tar
On 01/08/2012, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Would you mind taking this slightly off-topic discussion off the list?
I always strive to stay on-topic. In fact immediately this thread went
off topic, 4 messages back, I did try to go off list, but got this
result from the OP:
Delivery
Eric Snow added the comment:
Backwards compatibility requirements still apply to the importlib API -
while the default import system won't call FileFinder.find_module() any
more, third party import reimplementations are still free to do so.
Except that a good portion of the importlib API is
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Attaching an updated patch that completes the documentation of network objects
(attributes, methods and operations). Additionally, inserted the provisional
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Nick Coghlan added the comment:
Fair point. However, the find_module() variant of the API isn't dead yet, so we
should still support it. find_module() likely won't die completely until 4.0.
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
Should we do something before Python 3.3 final?
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
On Windows, stdin, stdout and stderr are creates using TextIOWrapper(...,
newline=None).
In this case, TextIOWrapper._writenl is os.linesep and so '\r\n'.
Oh, I was wrong: stdin is created with newline=None, but stdout and stderr are
created with
STINNER Victor added the comment:
The change was already done in another issue. I'm closing this one.
changeset: 71315:30f91fbfc8b3
user:Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com
date:Wed Jul 13 23:47:21 2011 +0200
files: Lib/test/regrtest.py
description:
Issue #12550:
STINNER Victor added the comment:
So can we close this issue, or should we start to document private functions?
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Manu Cupcic added the comment:
I am also hitting this issue.
I have been able to reproduce it in python 2.5 and 2.7, on debian 6 (64 bits)
Exactly like the reporter, I am making extensive use of threads. I am also
using SQLalchemy.
All my threads but one are waiting (probably for the GIL) :
New submission from Dirkjan Ochtman:
It seems nice if datetime.timestamp() would be mentioned in the What's New.
Does that seem acceptable? I'm happy to whip up a patch.
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Agree with Meador.
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New changeset 5a8c5631463f by Martin v. Löwis in branch '2.7':
Issue #8847: Disable COMDAT folding in Windows PGO builds.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/5a8c5631463f
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New submission from Chris Jerdonek:
The Dev Guide should say the preferred way (or even a way) to run tests using
the Python 2.7 build:
http://docs.python.org/devguide/runtests.html
This will help submitters who want to check that their patch works with 2.7.
In Python 2.7, this did not work
Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset 2638ce032151 by Martin v. Löwis in branch '3.2':
Issue #8847: Disable COMDAT folding in Windows PGO builds.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/2638ce032151
New changeset 029cde4e58c5 by Martin v. Löwis in branch 'default':
Issue #8847: Disable COMDAT
Martin v. Löwis added the comment:
Thanks for the research and the fix!
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I verified that this patch can be applied to 2.7 and that those tests pass as
well.
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Ezio Melotti added the comment:
FWIW this is already mentioned in the quick start [0].
Do you want to propose a patch for runtest.rst?
[0]: http://docs.python.org/devguide/#quick-start
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Chris Jerdonek added the comment:
FWIW this is already mentioned in the quick start [0].
I didn't catch that, thanks.
Do you want to propose a patch for runtest.rst?
Sure.
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
To debug this issue, it would help to have the following information:
- locale encoding: encoding variable
- tested character: ch
- character read by ncurses: read
Can someone reproducing the issue try to add: print(encoding=%s, ch=%r,
read=%r % (encoding,
STINNER Victor added the comment:
You didn't add any test for non regression??
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New submission from abael:
Python-2.7.3/Objects/stringobject.c( SHA256SUM
ad7795c75e2a25247e4dea4cc5327c225c4da03b7c7d57226c817ba6d12a316c)
static PyObject *string_join(PyStringObject *self, PyObject *orig);
OLD IMPLEMENT LOGIC(Pseudo code):
char *sep = PyString_AS_STRING(self);
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Attaching a patch for review.
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New submission from Jarvis:
In the Python 2.4, it closes the socket only by calling request.close() method.
There is a risk by using this method to close socket. If the socket handle
count does not reach zero because another process still has a handle to the
socket then the connection is not
Stefan Krah added the comment:
Is it possible without too much effort to keep the old behavior
('u' - Py_UNICODE)? Then I'd say that should go into 3.3.
The problem with the current behavior is that it's neither backwards
compatible nor PEP-3118 compliant.
If it is too much work to restore
STINNER Victor added the comment:
Here is a patch reverting changes of the PEP 393, as suggested by Martin von
Loewis. With the patch, array uses Py_UNICODE* type for the 'u' format. So
array.array('u', '\u0010')[0] should return '\uDBFF' on Windows.
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Martin v. Löwis added the comment:
You didn't add any test for non regression??
Please rephrase your question: what tests did I not add?
I did add the tests that Stefan proposed.
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Chris Jerdonek added the comment:
Please backport and leave open for distutils2.
Éric, is there a place where updates to the distutils2 docs can be viewed and
made prior to reinclusion in the main Python repo? For example, the
documentation here:
Charles-François Natali added the comment:
Is there something else I can do to help resolve this bug ? I can help
debugging this, but I am not sure how to proceed. I have a --with-pydebug
interpreter stopped at the segfault in gdb.
Could you post the output of :
p op
and
thread apply
Manu Cupcic added the comment:
(gdb) p op
$12 = (PyObject *) 0x4dc7bc0
thread all apply bt is going to be very long no ? Could you tell me what you
want to know that is not in info threads maybe ? I can definitely post it here,
but it's going to be a lot of output.
I can be available on IRC
New submission from Dmitry Dvoinikov:
The following line prints different things each time you run it:
python3 -c print(', '.join({ '1': '2', '3': '4' }.keys()))
The output is either 1, 3 or 3, 1. Is such indeterministic behavior
intentional ?
Using Python 3.3.0b1 (default, Aug 1 2012,
Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
This has to wait for 3.4, since it's an enhancement, not a bug.
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Stefan Krah added the comment:
The diff between b9558df8cc58 and default with array_revert_pep393.patch
applied is small, but I noticed that in some places you switched back to
Py_UNICODE typecode and in others not. For instance, in struct arraydescr
typecode is still char.
I'm not sure why
STINNER Victor added the comment:
Please rephrase your question: what tests did I not add?
I did add the tests that Stefan proposed.
Ah yes, you added new tests to Python 3.2 and 3.3, but no to Python
2.7. Why not adding these new tests to Python 2.7?
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Yes, because hash randomization is now enabled by default:
http://docs.python.org/dev/reference/datamodel.html#object.__hash__
If you want deterministic behaviour, just set e.g. PYTHONHASHSEED=0.
(or any other fixed value)
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STINNER Victor added the comment:
The diff between b9558df8cc58 and default with array_revert_pep393.patch
applied is small, but I noticed that in some places you switched back to
Py_UNICODE typecode and in others not.
I just copied code from Python 3.2, I forgot to update typecode type
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Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
Hi, several points:
- Python 2.7 is in bugfix mode; you need to work from the default Mercurial
branch as explained in http://docs.python.org/devguide/ . In practice, this
means your patch will target the future Python 3.4, and therefore either
Nick Coghlan added the comment:
Indeed, there are still a couple of Windows failures, but they aren't related
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New submission from Nick Coghlan:
test_multiprocessing failed on one of the XP buildbots with a permission error:
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20XP-4%203.x/builds/7223/steps/test/logs/stdio
The immediate rerun also failed, but the one at the end of the test run
succeeded.
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Martin v. Löwis added the comment:
Ah yes, you added new tests to Python 3.2 and 3.3, but no to Python
2.7. Why not adding these new tests to Python 2.7?
The tests don't crash Python 2.7. So they are not useful as a test whether
the bug has been worked-around. I actually don't know how to
New submission from Nick Coghlan:
regrtest bailed out completely on one of the Windows 7 builders due to a
problem with accessing the temporary working directory:
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/AMD64%20Windows7%20SP1%203.x/builds/410/steps/test/logs/stdio
It's seems a touch
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Well, test_startfile seems to be a common issue on that buildbot.
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Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
I'm not sure why some finders are named Finder and others Importer. It
makes things confusing.
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Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
Uh, how is this a bug? An empty text doesn't contain lines at all, so returning
an empty list of lines sounds right.
Furthermore, by fixing this, you may break existing software.
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Antoine Pitrou added the comment:
Yes, of course.
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Jeremy Kloth added the comment:
I must also add that the proposed solution works well within the test suite as
the access denied error can also occur when creating subsequent files, not just
removing them.
This solution eliminates the need to wrap all creation calls with access denied
Jeremy Kloth added the comment:
Well, test_startfile seems to be a common issue on that buildbot.
I wouldn't really call it common (twice in the last 30 runs).
However I would wager that the PermissionError is being caused by an
unknown (without having Process Monitor running when the error
Barry A. Warsaw added the comment:
I've mostly run out of time to work on the docs, but I do want to say that I
thought long and hard about all the terminology decisions. Please don't
change them lightly, and definitely don't change them until you've tried to go
through the documentation and
Changes by Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr:
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nosy: +brian.curtin
stage: - patch review
versions: +Python 2.7, Python 3.2
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