Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 01/06/2014 07:01, Bob Martin wrote: in 722929 20140601 035727 Steve Hayes wrote: No, it's a bit like flying in a Boeing 747 rather than a Concorde. The latyer may be later and more technically advanced and flew faster, but no one uses or supports it. Actually, the Concorde preceded the 74

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Bob Martin
in 722929 20140601 035727 Steve Hayes wrote: >No, it's a bit like flying in a Boeing 747 rather than a Concorde. The latyer >may be later and more technically advanced and flew faster, but no one uses or >supports it. Actually, the Concorde preceded the 747, and wasn't as "technically advanced",

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Rustom Mody
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 9:05:11 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > So if you want to start a one-man airline (where you're managing the > company, flying the plane, and everything else), do you start by > looking at the relative merits of the 747-400 and 777-300ER I guess a person starting a one

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Steve Hayes wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2014 13:09:45 +0200, Johannes Bauer > wrote: > >>On 31.05.2014 12:07, Steve Hayes wrote: >> >>> So I bought this book, and decided that whatever version of Python it deals >>> with, that's the one I will download and use. >> >>T

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Steve Hayes
On Sat, 31 May 2014 15:44:46 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >Steve Hayes : > >> I'll leave Python 3.2 on my computer, but 2.7.5 will be the one I'm >> installing now. Even if I could *find* a book that deals with Python >> 3.x, couldn't afford to but yet another Python book. > >Unfortunately, in th

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Steve Hayes
On 31 May 2014 12:30:11 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:07:59 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> I'll leave Python 3.2 on my computer, but 2.7.5 will be the one I'm >> installing now. Even if I could *find* a book that deals with Python >> 3.x, couldn't afford to but yet another P

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Steve Hayes
On Sat, 31 May 2014 13:09:45 +0200, Johannes Bauer wrote: >On 31.05.2014 12:07, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> So I bought this book, and decided that whatever version of Python it deals >> with, that's the one I will download and use. > >This sounds like remarkably bad advice. That's like saying "I bou

Re: Python 3.2 has some deadly infection

2014-05-31 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > TL;DR: Anatoly's blog post is long on disappointment and short on actual > content. It feels to me that we could summarise his post as: > > I don't know what I want, I won't recognise it even if I saw > it, but Python 3 isn't it. I

Re: Business model

2014-05-31 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 31 May 2014 18:49:53 -0700, ngangsia akumbo wrote: > On Sunday, June 1, 2014 2:30:01 AM UTC+1, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 01/06/2014 01:28, ngangsia akumbo wrote: > > sorry for asking the same question No need to apologise. It's an interesting question, and reading the answers given las

Re: Python 3.2 has some deadly infection

2014-05-31 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 31 May 2014 17:10:20 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Some interesting comments here > http://techtonik.rainforce.org/2014/05/python-32-has-some-deadly- infection.html > so I'm simply asking for other opinions. Oh, Anatoly Techtonik. He's quite notorious on python-dev for wanting to impose

Re: Business model

2014-05-31 Thread ngangsia akumbo
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 2:30:01 AM UTC+1, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 01/06/2014 01:28, ngangsia akumbo wrote: sorry for asking the same question > > -- > > My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask > > what you can do for our language. > > > > Mark Lawrence > >

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-31 Thread Rustom Mody
On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:37:00 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote: > You are talking about the infrastructure needed for writing unicode apps. > The language need not have non-ASCII lexemes for that > I am talking about something quite different. > Think for example of a German wanting to write "Gö

Re: Business model

2014-05-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 01/06/2014 01:28, ngangsia akumbo wrote: I am already writing programs in python. I wish to use my programming skills for a business model, any business approach. Is any one here business oriented to give me some guide lines or do any person knows Google groups that i can join that will hel

Business model

2014-05-31 Thread ngangsia akumbo
I am already writing programs in python. I wish to use my programming skills for a business model, any business approach. Is any one here business oriented to give me some guide lines or do any person knows Google groups that i can join that will help me approach my objective. Hope to hear from

Re: IDE for python

2014-05-31 Thread Rhodri James
On Fri, 30 May 2014 13:53:06 +0100, Rustom Mody wrote: On Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:14:35 PM UTC+5:30, Paul Rudin wrote: Terry Reedy writes: > 3. Search unopened files (grep) for a string or re. Emacs. How do you do this with emacs? I find a menagerie of greppish commands -- rgrep, lgre

Re: Python 3.2 has some deadly infection

2014-05-31 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Mark Lawrence : > Some interesting comments here > http://techtonik.rainforce.org/2014/05/python-32-has-some-deadly-infection.html > so I'm simply asking for other opinions. I read the article, but unfortunately I failed to see interesting comments or opinions. There was some graphic, but it didn

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Deb Wyatt
> > I just bought a new book on Python, since the one I had borrowed from my > son > only dealt with Python 2.3, and everyone told me that was old. > > So I bought this book, and decided that whatever version of Python it > deals > with, that's the one I will download and use. > > The book is:

Re: Suds and Python3

2014-05-31 Thread Paul McNett
On 5/31/14, 11:36 AM, tokib...@gmail.com wrote: Suds is defacto python SOAP client, but it does not mainte recent few years. Why? Is it really the defacto? It seems like I've heard more about pysimplesoap, and looking at GitHub there have been commits in the past 4 days. As far as why it h

Re: Script suddenly stops

2014-05-31 Thread Chris
Dear All, thanks a lot for your replies. I've found my mistake. The script output stopped, but the script was still filling the MySQL table. When I resized the Gnome terminal window the output continued. -- Christian -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Suds and Python3

2014-05-31 Thread tokibito
Suds is defacto python SOAP client, but it does not mainte recent few years. Why? I want to use SOAP and Python3. How do it? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Multi-line commands with 'python -c'

2014-05-31 Thread Peter Otten
Duncan Booth wrote: > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Devin Jeanpierre >> wrote: >>> In unix shells you can literally use a new line. Or is that only > bash? >> >> You can in bash, I know, but it's fiddly to type it; and more >> importantly, it's not a good point in

Re: pyflakes best practices?

2014-05-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 30/05/2014 02:14, Roy Smith wrote: In article , Mark Lawrence wrote: On 30/05/2014 01:13, Roy Smith wrote: We've recently started using pyflakes. The results seem to be similar to most tools of this genre. It found a few real problems. It generated a lot of noise about things which we

Re: Multi-line commands with 'python -c'

2014-05-31 Thread Duncan Booth
Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Devin Jeanpierre > wrote: >> In unix shells you can literally use a new line. Or is that only bash? > > You can in bash, I know, but it's fiddly to type it; and more > importantly, it's not a good point in the "this is cleaner than a > se

Python 3.2 has some deadly infection

2014-05-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
Some interesting comments here http://techtonik.rainforce.org/2014/05/python-32-has-some-deadly-infection.html so I'm simply asking for other opinions. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is f

Re: Optparse to parsing Suggestions !!

2014-05-31 Thread Ian Kelly
On May 30, 2014 8:26 AM, "Ganesh Pal" wrote: > > > Hello Python world , > > > I wanted suggestion on how to modify the below code to help me accomodate the below two cases Your question was answered already, but I'd like to point out that optparse is deprecated. If possible, you should use argpar

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Steve Hayes : > I'll leave Python 3.2 on my computer, but 2.7.5 will be the one I'm > installing now. Even if I could *find* a book that deals with Python > 3.x, couldn't afford to but yet another Python book. Unfortunately, in the computer field, if there's a book written on a topic, it will mos

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:07:59 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: > I'll leave Python 3.2 on my computer, but 2.7.5 will be the one I'm > installing now. Even if I could *find* a book that deals with Python > 3.x, couldn't afford to but yet another Python book. Version 2.7 is a good choice, and it will be a

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2014-05-31 Thread srk90000
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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Stefan Behnel
Johannes Bauer, 31.05.2014 13:09: > Lucky for you 2.7.5 isn't all that different from Py3 and most of it > will apply. You'll be missing out on a bunch of cool features (arbitrary > precision ints Py2 has them as well (although they are called long). 1 << 300 gives the right answer in both Py2 and

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Johannes Bauer
On 31.05.2014 12:07, Steve Hayes wrote: > So I bought this book, and decided that whatever version of Python it deals > with, that's the one I will download and use. This sounds like remarkably bad advice. That's like saying "I bought a can of motor oil in my department store and whatever engine

Re: Optparse to parsing Suggestions !!

2014-05-31 Thread Peter Otten
Am Sa Mai 31 2014, 13:08:12 schrieb Ganesh Pal: >> I think you have to do it manually: >> >> options, args = parser.parse_args() >> >> if options.object == "super_block" and options.path is not None: >> parser.error("Paths not allowed for 'super_block' object") >> >> elif options.object ==

Re: Python 3 is killing Python

2014-05-31 Thread Steve Hayes
On Wed, 28 May 2014 14:23:17 -0500, Larry Martell wrote: >Somthing I came across in my travels through the ether: > >https://medium.com/@deliciousrobots/5d2ad703365d/ I just bought a new book on Python, since the one I had borrowed from my son only dealt with Python 2.3, and everyone told me tha