Re: (side-)effects and ...

2015-07-05 Thread Ron Adam
On 07/05/2015 04:29 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: But why do we not have a common and well-known term for the counterpart, that something does not modify the state of the world, but that the state of the world does influence the value (behaviour) of a call such as »datetime.datetime.now

Re: (side-)effects and ...

2015-07-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: > But why do we not have a common and well-known term for > the counterpart, that something does not modify the state > of the world, but that the state of the world does > influence the value (behaviour) of a call such as > »datetime.dat

Re: (side-)effects and ...

2015-07-05 Thread Robert Kern
On 2015-07-05 21:36, Tim Chase wrote: On 2015-07-05 20:29, Stefan Ram wrote: But why do we not have a common and well-known term for the counterpart, that something does not modify the state of the world, but that the state of the world does influence the value (behaviour) of a call

Re: (side-)effects and ...

2015-07-05 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/5/2015 4:29 PM, Stefan Ram wrote: And this is the intention of my post: Maybe there is such a term, and I just missed to learn it so far? So, do you know a term for the phenomenon that can be found in Python but not in mathematics and consists in the state of the world influe

Re: (side-)effects and ...

2015-07-05 Thread Tim Chase
On 2015-07-05 20:29, Stefan Ram wrote: > But why do we not have a common and well-known term for > the counterpart, that something does not modify the state > of the world, but that the state of the world does > influence the value (behaviour) of a call such as > »datetime.datetime.now()

Re: (side-)effects and ...

2015-07-05 Thread Tim Chase
On 2015-07-05 15:36, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2015-07-05 20:29, Stefan Ram wrote: > > But why do we not have a common and well-known term for > > the counterpart, that something does not modify the state > > of the world, but that the state of the world does > > influence the value (behaviour

[RELEASED] Python 3.5.0b3 is now available

2015-07-05 Thread Larry Hastings
On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.5 release team, I'm relieved to announce the availability of Python 3.5.0b3. Python 3.5 has now entered "feature freeze". By default new features may no longer be added to Python 3.5. This is a preview release, and its use is

Re: An asyncio example

2015-07-05 Thread Adam Bartoš
Terry Reedy wrote: > I suggest you post your minimal example there. User interest in an > issue being fixed and willingness to test patches can help motivate. I've done it. Thank you for help. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: installing libraries like numpy scipy matplotlib

2015-07-05 Thread Jens Thoms Toerring
memilanuk wrote: > On 07/04/2015 07:58 AM, Jens Thoms Toerring wrote: > > PIYUSH KUMAR wrote: > >> I have never used linux in my life.. only windows based computing.. So I > >> have problems in installing third party libraries in python. > > > > It depends. One question is if there's already a re

Re: installing libraries like numpy scipy matplotlib

2015-07-05 Thread memilanuk
On 07/04/2015 07:58 AM, Jens Thoms Toerring wrote: PIYUSH KUMAR wrote: I have never used linux in my life.. only windows based computing.. So I have problems in installing third party libraries in python. It depends. One question is if there's already a ready-for-use package for the third par

Re: Bug in floating point multiplication

2015-07-05 Thread Peter Otten
Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Fri, 03 Jul 2015 00:52:55 +1000, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >>Despite the title, this is not one of the usual "Why can't Python do >>maths?" "bug" reports. >> >>Can anyone reproduce this behaviour? If so, please reply with the version >>of Python and your op