Re: Can Parallel Python run on a muti-CPU server ?

2007-02-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm interested in Parallel Python and I learned from the website of Parallel Python that it can run on SMP and clusters. But can it run on a our muti-CPU server ? We are running an origin3800 server with 128 CPUs. Thanks. I

Re: Can Parallel Python run on a muti-CPU server ?

2007-02-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
azrael wrote: On Feb 7, 3:13 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm interested in Parallel Python and I learned from the website of Parallel Python that it can run on SMP and clusters. But can it run on a our muti-CPU server ? We are running an origin3800 server with

Dictionary inserts and threads

2007-01-27 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Hi all, I'm thinking to speed up a process, I like to use multiple threads to get data fractions from multiple servers and place those data fragments into a local dictionary for further processing, the dictionary will look like this: self.dic = {'thread_a':dict(),

How to comment code?

2007-01-19 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Hi all, I've been toying with python for about two years now. Not every day, just when I encounter something in my job (sysadmin) repetitively dull. The amazing thing is that like any other language (natural or not) learning it more gives you power to express your thoughts better and create

Re: Would a Dutch speaker please check this wiki page please?

2007-01-18 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Stef Mientki wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a note about a new page on the Python Wiki: Wade == Wade McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Selcuk_Altun I suspect it's junk since it doesn't seem to mention Python and the website it mentions doesn't seem

Re: Would a Dutch speaker please check this wiki page please?

2007-01-18 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Stef Mientki wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a note about a new page on the Python Wiki: Wade == Wade McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Selcuk_Altun I suspect it's junk since it doesn't seem to mention Python and the website it mentions doesn't seem

Re: Adding a directory to the Python System Path - Edit the registry?

2007-01-05 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to find a way to add a directory to Python's sytem path on my MS Windows XP computer. I did some searching online, but the only solution I found involved editing the MS Windows Registry. That seemed a little to hard core. Is there another easier way

Re: find login name of user?

2006-12-30 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Uwe Hoffmann wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Is there a function/module to find the login name of the user under UNIX environment? http://docs.python.org/lib/os-procinfo.html http://docs.python.org/lib/module-pwd.html Speaking of that, is there any reason why there isn't any

Re: db access

2006-12-28 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
king kikapu wrote: Hi to all, is there a way to use an RDBMS (in my case, SQL Server) from Python by using some built-in module of the language (v. 2.5) and through ODBC ?? I saw some samples that use statements like import dbi or import odbc but neither modules (dbi, odbc) are present on

Re: db access

2006-12-28 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
king kikapu wrote: Hey Martin, thanks for the fast reply! I have already seen that link and i just downloaded the pyodbc module but isn't Python already containing a built-in odbc module so to allow for db communication ?? cut Not that I'm aware of, but it is possible to do odbc with

your opinion about psycopg vs pygresql

2006-12-20 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Hi all, I'm playing a bit with PostgreSQL, in which I've set me the target to create a python script which with user input creates a new user role and a database with that owner (connecting to template1 since I know that at least that db exists). Ok so I installed PostGreSQL and pygresql

Re: perl better than python for users with disabilities?

2006-12-20 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Dan Jacobson wrote: Can I feel even better about using perl vs. python, as apparently python's dependence of formatting, indentation, etc. vs. perl's (){}; etc. makes writing python programs perhaps very device dependent. Whereas perl can be written on a tiny tiny screen, and can withstand

Re: why would anyone use python when java is there?

2006-11-28 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Aahz wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], gavino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wtf Because programming in Python makes me feel happy and contented, while programming in Java just makes me want to scream in agony. Or in my case, Python made me code, Java made me brew java. ymmv -- mph --

Re: Send to all clients using UDP in Twisted

2006-08-20 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Elliot Hughes wrote: Hi Everyone, I am trying to right a server that can receive a message and send it to all clients using UDP on twisted. I have got it so far that it can echo to the client that sent the message but not to the rest. I tried using multicast but that requires almost total

Re: python under earthlink hosting?

2006-08-02 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
mbstevens wrote: I keep chatting with the tech support people at Earthlink, asking where the location of the Python interpreter is. They don't seem to know where it is. They don't know if Python is running on my server, either. I know Perl is at /usr/local/bin/perl ...but when I use a

Re: sysadmin - python programmer

2006-07-19 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Dan Stromberg wrote: I've been a sysadmin for about 13 years, but I'm realizing that my favorite part of being a sysadmin are those moments where there's a reason to write some code - preferably in python. What might one do to make the transition from sysadmin to python programmer, aside

Re: ctypes wrapping libpam.so on FreeBSD 6.1 - Python Bus Error

2006-07-15 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Frederik Ganesan, Thanks for the explanation, it did me realize that I should learn some C first before I'm going to start wrapping something :-) At least I got a reason now to do something with C, though it should take me some time. But again, thanks! Martin --

ctypes wrapping libpam.so on FreeBSD 6.1 - Python Bus Error

2006-07-13 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Hey all, I'd like to wrap libpam so that I can use that for authentication and password management. I build ctypes (0.9.9.6) on my platform via ports. Now according to OpenPAM documentation all sessions start with pam_start(). According to the man page it should contain this: pam_start(const

Re: Python 2.4 tutorial

2006-06-29 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
subramanian2003 wrote: Hello All, From where I can get the detailed python 2.4 tutorial(other than python.org). Thanks, Subramanian. If you're willing to pay for it you can read many python books online at: http://safari.oreilly.com Although I like a paper version more (and most

Is there a python wrapper for OpenPAM?

2006-06-08 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Hi all, I'm busy with a personal project that does password synchronization between NT and BSD. By using a password hook/filter/notifier when password is changed (on NT PasswdHk and on BSD a modified version of pam_exec*) I can retrieve a changed password, however when I want to check the

Re: secure xmlrpc server?

2006-06-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Laszlo Nagy wrote: cut ssl for xmlrpc Have a look at: http://trevp.net/tlslite/ -- mph -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: secure xmlrpc server?

2006-06-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Laszlo Nagy wrote: Martin P. Hellwig wrote: Laszlo Nagy wrote: cut ssl for xmlrpc Have a look at: http://trevp.net/tlslite/ C:\temp\cccpython setup.py install running install running build running build_py running build_ext error: The .NET Framework SDK needs to be installed before

Re: secure xmlrpc server?

2006-06-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Laszlo Nagy wrote: cut http://trevp.net/tlslite/ - no exe installers. http://sourceforge.net/projects/tlslite/ - no file packages to download :-( Download the zip and unpack it: http://trevp.net/tlslite/tlslite-0.3.8.zip Then there is an installers directory SimpleXMLRPCServer uses

Re: A critic of Guido's blog on Python's lambda

2006-05-06 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Bill Atkins wrote: cut How do you define scalability? http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=define%3AscalabilitybtnG=Google+Search ;-) -- mph -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A critic of Guido's blog on Python's lambda

2006-05-06 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Bill Atkins wrote: Martin P. Hellwig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Atkins wrote: cut How do you define scalability? http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=define%3AscalabilitybtnG=Google+Search ;-) -- mph OK, my real question is: what features of Python make it scalable? Well I'm

Re: A critic of Guido's blog on Python's lambda

2006-05-06 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Paul Rubin wrote: Martin P. Hellwig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and clients make it quite scalable. For example, I'm creating a xmlrpcserver that returns a randomized cardlist, but I because of fail-over I needed some form of scalability , my solution was to first randomize the deck

Re: A critic of Guido's blog on Python's lambda

2006-05-06 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Paul Rubin wrote: Martin P. Hellwig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a weird approach. Why not let the ticket by the (maybe encrypted) PRNG seed that generates the permutation? Because the server that handles the generate request doesn't need to be the same as the one that handles

Re: This coding style bad practise?

2006-05-04 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
bruno at modulix wrote: Martin P. Hellwig wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: cut Why not just use the call operator instead ? ie: id = IDGenerator(...) id() 01_20060424_151903_1 id() 01_20060424_151905_2 Because of: id = IDGenerator(01,99) id() Traceback (most recent call

Re: This coding style bad practise?

2006-05-04 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
cut Thanks for the input folks! I adapted my script to the given suggestions and it's now far more 'logical', for reference I added it below. -- mph - script - import string import time class IDGenerator(object): (leading_id, subversion_length, tz) # tz = 'local' or 'gm'

Re: Can I use python for this .. ??

2006-05-04 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
san wrote: Hi I am using windows xp and have installed python and win32. I am familiar with basic Python. I wanted to control some of the applications via python script. I would like to write a python script to say: 1. Open firefox and log on to gmail 2. Another firefox window to visit

This coding style bad practise?

2006-05-03 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Hi all, I created a class which creates a relative unique id string, now my program just works fine and as expected but somehow I get the feeling that I misused the __repr__ since I guess people expect to 'execute' a function in an instance instead of using it's representation string of the

Re: This coding style bad practise?

2006-05-03 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: cut Why not just use the call operator instead ? ie: id = IDGenerator(...) id() 01_20060424_151903_1 id() 01_20060424_151905_2 Because of: id = IDGenerator(01,99) id() Traceback (most recent call last): File pyshell#1, line 1, in ? id()

Re: This coding style bad practise?

2006-05-03 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
keirr wrote: Martin P. Hellwig wrote: Hi all, I created a class which creates a relative unique id string, now my program just works fine and as expected but somehow I get the feeling that I misused the __repr__ since I guess people expect to 'execute' a function in an instance instead

Re: setting file permissions on a web server

2006-04-30 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
John Salerno wrote: cut Most FTP servers do allow to use chmod in a ftp session, although you're client must support it. See for example a cli ftp client (and server) on FreeBSD. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ftp ftp.xs4all.nl Connected to ftp2.xs4all.nl. 220 XS4ALL ftpd DCLXVI Name

Re: UDP performance

2006-04-20 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Paul Sijben wrote: I am stumped by the following problem. I have a large multi-threaded server accepting communications on one UDP port (chosen for its supposed speed). I have been profiling the code and found that the UDP communication is my biggest drain on performance! Communication

Re: XML-RPC server via xinetd

2006-04-16 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Jos Vos wrote: Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to implement a XML-RPC server that is called by xinetd i.s.o. listening on a TCP socket itself. I already have implemented a stand-alone XML-RPC server using SimpleXMLRPCServer, but I now want something similar, that is started via xinetd

Re: XML-RPC server via xinetd

2006-04-16 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Jos Vos wrote: cut The problem is that the server initialization *requires* a server address (host, port pair), but I don't see how to tell it to use the stdin socket (and I'm afraid this is not possible, but I'm not sure). If I understood it correctly you want the python server bind be

Re: Python 2.5 licensing: stop this change

2006-04-01 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Fuzzyman wrote: cut From the site: Advanced Program for Research In Licensing, whose First Object-Oriented License string = Advanced Program for Research In Licensing, whose First Object-Oriented License for letter in string: if ord(letter) in range(65,91): print(letter), --

Re: To run a python script in all the machines from one server

2006-03-28 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone I want to run a python script in all the machines that are connected through local network and collect the information about that machine such as HDD size, RAM capacity(with number of slots) ,processer speed etc. But i want to run a script from just

Re: in-place string reversal

2006-03-28 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Sathyaish wrote: And that the extra-memory operation I've given above is expensive, I believe. Is there an efficient way to do it? If i recall correctly a string is an immutable list. I would do it this way: strTXT = foo strREV = strTXT[::-1] strREV 'oof' -- mph --

Re: don't understand popen2

2006-03-23 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Donn Cave wrote: cut Anyway, it seems unlikely he would get that INVARG error for this reason. That's an error from the host operating system, not the interpreter, and it mostly likely refers to the file descriptor. Since it works for me, I guess his problem is basically this: | (python

don't understand popen2

2006-03-22 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Hi all, I was doing some popen2 tests so that I'm more comfortable using it. I wrote a little python script to help me test that (testia.py): - someline = raw_input(something:) if someline == 'test': print(yup) else: print(nope)

Re: don't understand popen2

2006-03-22 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
gry@ll.mit.edu wrote: cut You gave it a single string, not a list(sequence) of strings. Try something like: std_in.writelines([notgood]) I got this output then: something: Traceback (most recent call last): File F:\coding\pwSync\popen_test\popen_test.py, line 8, in ?

Re: How to recgonize an USB device in FreeBSD?

2006-03-21 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Geoffery wrote: I want to add some applications to Freevo. Let Freevo recgonize the USB device is the one. Thank u for your answer. Have a look at 'man 5 usbd.conf' -- mph -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP 8 example of 'Function and method arguments'

2006-03-14 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
cut Steven, Bruno, Terry Duncon, thank you for your insights, it really helped me a great deal. -- mph -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

PEP 8 example of 'Function and method arguments'

2006-03-13 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
While I was reading PEP 8 I came across this part: Function and method arguments Always use 'self' for the first argument to instance methods. Always use 'cls' for the first argument to class methods. Now I'm rather new to programming and unfamiliar to some basic concepts of OOP.

Re: Basic coin flipper program - logical error help

2006-02-21 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
DannyB wrote: I'm just learning Python. So am I :-) I've created a simple coin flipper program - here is the code: [source] #Coin flipper import random heads = 0 tails = 0 counter = 0 coin = random.randrange(2) while (counter 100): if (coin == 0):

Re: Question about xmlrpc and threading

2006-02-17 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
David Hirschfield wrote: cut My question was whether this is allowed? Can two calls be made via the same ServerProxy instance while a request is already underway? Clearer? -Dave cut Much, and my preliminary answer is, I have no clue :-) But knowing that python will throw an exceptions

Re: Open Relay Test

2006-02-17 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
D wrote: Nope, quite the contrary..I'm looking to write a simple program for a client of mine that will, among other things, verify that their clients' email servers do not have open relays. I usually test it like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ telnet mail.huygenslyceum.nl smtp Trying

Re: Question about xmlrpc and threading

2006-02-15 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
David Hirschfield wrote: An xmlrpc client/server app I'm writing used to be super-simple, but now threading has gotten into the mix. On the server side, threads are used to process requests from a queue as they come in. On the client side, threads are used to wait on the results of

Re: how do you pronounce 'tuple'?

2006-02-14 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Roy Smith wrote: Erik Max Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (A 2-tuple is an ordered pair in mathematics.) If a 2-tuple is a pair, then it would seem to follow that a 1-tuple is a single. Yeah, but an *ordered* single :-) A more interesting question is what do you call ()? A none-tuple?

Re: by reference

2006-02-13 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
dirvine wrote: Yes I did I was trying to do something like (pseudo code) write: get files in path for each filename get size, type create dic called filename assign size:xx,type:y pickle to file read: open pickled file read dict name and contents (hoping unpickling file gives me

Re: hard disk activity

2006-02-13 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Paul Rubin wrote: VSmirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am needing to synchronize the file on a remote folder, and my current solution, which simply copies the file if a date comparison or a content comparison, becomes a bit unmanageable for very large files. Some of the files I'm working with

Re: by reference

2006-02-09 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Rene Pijlman wrote: dirvine: I would like to create a dictionary based on a variable [...] And what seems to be the problem? I think that this is his problem: 'somename'={} SyntaxError: can't assign to literal But I'm puzzled why he wants that route, while I'm still pretty new to

Re: How to get Windows system information?

2006-01-14 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thank you! from what I can see from the second website you listed, there is a way to get harddisk space information, but is there any way to get CPU load and RAM usage? Have a look at the snippet: # import wmi # t = wmi.WMI() # for i in

Re: How to get Windows system information?

2006-01-13 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know how to get the: Free hard disk space Amount of CPU load and Amount of RAM used on windows? I am making an artificial intelligence program that has moods based on how much stress the system is under, based on these parameters. I

Re: Why it doesn't work?

2006-01-09 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Lad wrote: I have a list L={} Now I can assign the value L['a']=1 and I have L={'a': 1} but I would like to have a dictionary like this L={'a': {'b':2}} so I would expect I can do L['a']['b']=2 but it does not work. Why? Thank you for reply Rg, L. Hi, Perhaps what you try

Re: - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF

2006-01-02 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Anton Vredegoor wrote: cut description of modern western society Most people can survive (without damaging their souls so to speak) when working for corruption themselves in this way, but sooner or later one is asked to corrupt others (defending one's title during a promotion, leading a

Re: Application architecture (long post - sorry)

2006-01-01 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Mike Meyer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have looked at the options for developing the client for these electronic job sheets and have decided upon Microsoft Pocket PC and the .net compact framework. It seems the easiest environment for developing and the PDA's can be obtained very

Re: [EVALUATION] - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF

2005-12-29 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: cut I'm suspecting that we have different definitions (or at least the implications of that) of used terms. I think it's important to first define these definition in a form acceptable to both of us. In the link you gave, the title was Efficiency Management. Now I believe

Re: [EVALUATION] - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF

2005-12-29 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Martin P. Hellwig wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: cut I'm suspecting that we have different definitions (or at least the implications of that) of used terms. I think it's important to first define these definition in a form acceptable to both of us. In the link you

Re: [EVALUATION] - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF

2005-12-28 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Martin P. Hellwig wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: cut So I guess you volunteer http://www.python.org/psf/volunteer.html ? I volunteer and contribute already (with a general validity and python specific analysis) A mediator should communicate the findings

Re: [EVALUATION] - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF

2005-12-28 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: cut The only thing that holds you theoretically back is acknowledged authority by the participating group _and_ yourself and of course the resource for restricted information. what do you mean by resource for restricted information? Well, I mean that you should know

Re: [EVALUATION] - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF

2005-12-27 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: cut So I guess you volunteer http://www.python.org/psf/volunteer.html ? -- mph -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Guido at Google

2005-12-21 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
rbt wrote: Alex Martelli wrote: I don't think there was any official announcement, but it's true -- he sits about 15 meters away from me;-). For Americans: 15 meters is roughly 50 feet. Well they could have used google for that ;-)

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-18 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Xah Lee wrote: cut Nice rant, btw in most EU countries the software creator can not withdraw the responsibility of his/her/it creation, regardless of what the disclaimer says. The law is the leading authority and not some Disclaimer/EULA, that's why most US EULA's are unauthoritative in the EU.

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Responsible Software Licensing

2005-12-18 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Ulrich Hobelmann wrote: cut The piece that a European programmer can never withdraw responsibility could be a big problem to open-source software, though. I'm not sure I'd want to freely publish anything that could result in liability for me. Not that big of a problem, in EU a user is

Re: Detect character encoding

2005-12-04 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Mike Meyer wrote: Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michal wrote: is there any way how to detect string encoding in Python? I need to proccess several files. Each of them could be encoded in different charset (iso-8859-2, cp1250, etc). I want to detect it, and encode it to utf-8

Re: wxPython Licence vs GPL

2005-11-27 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:39:13 +0100, Martin P. Hellwig wrote: The software was sold in 3 separates modules requiring a yearly renewal, The software is hardly sold if you have to renew that sale every year. That's more like a lease. I'd call it revenue from licencing

Re: wxPython Licence vs GPL

2005-11-26 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:43:22 +0100, Martin P. Hellwig wrote: if I owned a company making profit on software sales (sale =! support) you sign a death wish for using GPL Apart from Microsoft, and possibly Quark (makers of Quark Express desktop packaging software

Re: wxPython Licence vs GPL

2005-11-26 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Steven D'Aprano wrote: cut I think you are over-estimating both the numbers and profitability of such niche software distributors, and misunderstanding the business models of them. Coincidently, I worked at a software company making a standard administration software for primary schools.

Re: wxPython Licence vs GPL

2005-11-24 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Steven D'Aprano wrote: cut I'm FREE to use the software, FREE to redistribute it, FREE to give it away, FREE to make derivative works, FREE to transfer the licence, *and* I got it FREE of cost as well, but that doesn't make it free. Indeed, when I explain GPL to non-techies and what their

Re: wxPython Licence vs GPL

2005-11-24 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Mike Meyer wrote: Martin P. Hellwig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the non-techie is still interested, I'll rave on about that I understand why GPL is a good way to ensure availability of IP especially if the software is a collaborated effort in the academic scene. Your comment about the GPL

Re: wxPython Licence vs GPL

2005-11-24 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Mike Meyer wrote: cut Is that software really unavailable, or just unavailable for free? If the latter, then it's not unavailabe. If the former, the it didn't become unavailable, as it was never available in the first place. In the latter case, you could also use those examples to similarly

Re: wxPython Licence vs GPL

2005-11-24 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Mike Meyer wrote: cut Well, they chose to make it available to others for reuse. But software unavailable to those who can't afford it is better than no software at all That I do not agree with, I think it depends on which your side of the fence you are. For instance I have a specific

Re: I need Motivation

2005-11-04 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin P. Hellwig wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I m not a python Expert or anythin i need help, i m losin my motivation to continue with python can anyone inspire me again.??? Ooh that is easy, start learning other programming languages, you'll go back continuing

Re: I need Motivation

2005-11-03 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I m not a python Expert or anythin i need help, i m losin my motivation to continue with python can anyone inspire me again.??? Ooh that is easy, start learning other programming languages, you'll go back continuing with python very soon after that! ;-) -- mph --

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Not Bill Gates wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:35:47 +, Not Bill Gates wrote: Heck, I dunno. Like you, I don't even really care all that much. You don't care that innovation in desktop software has been crippled by the actions of the monopoly player Microsoft?

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
David Schwartz wrote: cut It's easy to point to things you think are mistakes and claim that if you had been in charge of the world, those mistakes would not have been made. If you are trying to balance completely different possible paths the universe might have taken, you need to make

pyHook example.py brakes windows dead keys mechanisme

2005-10-22 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Hi all, I noticed that the dead keys* mechanism (XPSP2 NL, keyboard map US, input language Dutch) doesn't work when running the pyHooks (python 241) example. Instead of ö (o) I immediately get o. If I close the pyHooks example the expected behavior returns. Is there a way how I can get both

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Jeroen Wenting wrote: cut Without Microsoft 90% of us would never have seen a computer more powerful than a ZX-81 and 90% of the rest of us would never have used only dumb mainframe terminals. cut At the time you PC guys where hacking around monochrome green and a bit lighter green screens

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
John Bokma wrote: cut You mean like the lamp that keeps burning forever, like Philips has? No more like all the hydrogen technologies that shell has in their possession for the last decades and only recently has begun to restart those projects. Although Commodore where never serious

Re: Daisy Daisy, give me your answer do

2005-10-09 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Michael Goettsche wrote: cut You're asking tech geekers and morons to do this job? Isn't that a task for somebody more professional like you? I think he's doing a shot to the position of open-source leader, judging on the replies he has got till so far, that shot was not really effective.

Re: Why do Pythoneers reinvent the wheel?

2005-09-10 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Stefano Masini wrote: cut reinventing wheel example Although I'm not experienced enough to comment on python stuff itself I do know that in general there are 2 reasons that people reinvent the wheel: - They didn't know of the existence of the first wheel - They have different roads Those

Re: determine if os.system() is done

2005-09-08 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Peter Hansen wrote: Martin P. Hellwig wrote: The only thing I am disappointed at his writing style, most likely he has a disrupted view on social acceptable behavior and communication. These skills might be still in development, so perhaps it is reasonable to give him a chance and wait

Re: determine if os.system() is done

2005-09-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Lars Gustäbel wrote: [Fredrik Lundh] han har försökt, men hans tourette tog överhanden: IMHO it's more likely an Asperger's syndrome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_Syndrome I disagree, in his writings I found no evidence of autisme. Actually most of it can be classified as

Re: Should I move to Amsterdam?

2005-08-26 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Sybren Stuvel wrote: Martin P. Hellwig enlightened us with: Personal transportation sucks in the Netherlands, if you live in the Randstad (the area of the above mentioned cities) and you have to travel across the Randstad, you go with the bike and/or bus/tram/metro/train because

Re: Should I move to Amsterdam?

2005-08-24 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Wade wrote: http://www.slate.com/id/2124561/entry/2124562/ Nice little series by Seth Stevenson for Americans daydreaming about emigration. Somewhere, anywhere ... maybe Amsterdam? I've never been to the Netherlands myself, but it sounds very civilized. Extra Python connection, besides

Re: What is Python?!

2005-08-12 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Magnus Lycka wrote: cut or what have you. How do you sell this without making it sound like snake oil? (Particularly with that name! :) cut JediMindTrick This *is* the languange you are looking for ... /JediMindTrick Stops the argument every time, although afterwards they look kind a

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

2005-08-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Kay Schluehr wrote: Eric Pederson wrote: Raise your hand if you think the best technology wins! Who is interested in such a matter? Is this a forum dedicated to some programming language or a popularity contest? If Python dies in a few years / looses attention but the Python Zen

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Kevin wrote: cut, can't get as many python web hosters as I want Well, for some strange reason I have never found that to be a problem. But that is perhaps because I'm an administrator and I want full root access, install the OS as I see fit and don't want others on the same (virtual)box. So

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Magnus Lycka wrote: Martin P. Hellwig wrote: Kevin wrote: cut, can't get as many python web hosters as I want Well, for some strange reason I have never found that to be a problem. If you develop software for an external customer, and they have an existing web site run by some ISP

Re: Secure email

2005-08-04 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to write a .cgi that will take the content of an https GET or POST and send it securely as email to an Outlook client. I think that OpenSSL is somewhere in this, but I'm not even sure how to create the right certificate, how to use it to encrypt mail and how

Re: pain

2005-08-04 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Mage wrote: cut Thank you, I will check this out. My company will switch to a jsp site. cut Well I don't know your company and how many developers there are but I know this; a manager telling me what tools to use to do my job is a bad manager by definition because he should realize that the

Re: Secure email

2005-08-04 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Michael Ströder wrote: Martin P. Hellwig wrote: I think you want this more common approach for mail encryption: server: https CGI form -- mail wrapper -- PGP encryption/signing -- send client: recieve mail -- pgp decryption/verification -- read This would require an additional PGP-plugin

Re: Secure email

2005-08-04 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Michael Ströder wrote: cut This would require an additional PGP-plugin for Outlook. Outlook can decrypt S/MIME messages out-of-the-box. Yes indeed, although I personaly find pgp a bit more elegant your solution would be the best for the OP. cut Whether S/MIME or PGP is used depends very much on

Re: Friend wants to learn python

2005-07-23 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
EnderLocke wrote: I have a friend who wants to learn python programming. I learned off the internet and have never used a book to learn it. What books do you recommend? Any suggestions would be appreciated. I recommend Learning Python 2nd Edition by Mark Lutz David Ascher (O'Reilly) its

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