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But I think in some situations Ruby allows to omit them, solving some
of the impossibile problems shown in this thread. This makes Ruby a
bit better than Python to create application-specific mini languages,
that are quite useful in some situations.
Yes. However,
Srikanth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All I need is a good IDE, I can't find something like Eclipse (JDT).
Eclipse has a Python IDE plug-in but it's not that great.
Have you tried the 'full' plugin (you have to pay about 30 $ IIRC or
something like that)?
My favourite Python editor is TextMate a
volcano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A trivial question - I have a working Python script that I have to
invoke from C++ code. No fancy stuff - just run the whole script with
its parameters. No callbacks, no signalling - nada, just
stupid,primitive, straightforward call.
In a unix based
Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those of you experiencing a temporary obsession with this topic
are encouraged to study The Great Language Shootout, until the
obsession goes away. ;)
I think that everybody knows GLS. However, when I have results different
from what I expected, I try to
Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those of you experiencing a temporary obsession with this topic
are encouraged to study The Great Language Shootout, until the
obsession goes away. ;)
I think that everybody knows GLS. However, when I have results different
from what I expected, I try to
Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm using VC++ Express, I didn't care to tweak the optimizations, I
merely chose the Release configuration for the executable. It's
blazing fast, taking only 30+ ms each run.
Of course it is faster. We are looping 100 times, you just 1.
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Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not really, see my test, in my other post in the same thread. I'm using
VC++ Express 2005. If we're comparing with Python 2.5 I think it's just
fair that for C++ we're using the latest as well.
In your test, you are looping 1 times, we looped 100.
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's to say,
python is still much faster?
Yes it is. But of course you can't sat that Python is faster than C++.
We found that the code to do this, written in the most natural way, is a
lot faster in Python. However, if you optimze the code, C++ gets almost
as fast.
Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Certainly--I was not comparing 100 against 1. Referring to the
OP's statement: However, while the python code gave the result almost
instantly, the C++ code took several seconds to run! 30ms sounds like
a definite improvement over several seconds!
Of
GHUM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Proofed @ EuroPython
2006 in CERN, near the LHC Beta, in the same room many Nobel laurates
gave their presentations before.
Have you some link? I suppose it's kind of a joke they did or something
like that...
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Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, my guess would be either he used the Debug configuration or he
actually created a Managed executable instead of a pure Win32
application. Sigh, now I can't wait to get home and try it out :)
Can be. But I suppose a Managed should not get *that* slow.
Tim N. van der Leeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to admit to a stupid mistake, for which I feel quite ashamed - I
got the loop-size wrong in the Python code. So all Python results
posted by me were off by a factor of 10 :-(
I feel quite bad about that!
Well, this makes *my* results quite
Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great to know that my model of how the world works is still correct!
(at least in relation to Python and C++!) :)
So please explain my results. I loop the same number of times.
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Jeremy Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It must be the debugging, the compiler or a poor STL implementation. With
gcc 4 it runs instantly on my computer (using -O2), even with 10x the
number of values.
$ gcc --version
i686-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1 (GCC) 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build
5363)
Tim N. van der Leeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm curious though, if on the OP's machine the slowed-down Python
version is still faster than the C++ version.
I tested both on my machine (my other post in the thread)
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Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python's memory allocator is also quite fast, compared to most generic
allocators...
In fact also in the two slow versions Python outperforms C++.
I didn't notice it in the first place.
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Tim N. van der Leeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But your C++ program outputs times in seconds, right? So all
compilations except for the first two give results in less than a
second, right? (meaning the optimizations of your standard-compilation
give worst results than -O3?)
Yes. It's in
Tim N. van der Leeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh boy; yes indeed the slow python is faster than the fast C++
version... Must be something really awful happening in the STL
implementation that comes with GCC 3.4!
And the Python version does the very same number of iterations than the
C++ one?
Tim N. van der Leeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NB: Your code now tests for address-equality. Does it also still test
for string-equality? It looks to me that it does, but it's not quite
clear to me.
It does it.
setstring* b(a.begin(), a.end());
setstring c; // well ordered set (b is
Tim N. van der Leeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My conclusion from that is, that the vector or set implementations
of GCC are far superior to those of VC++ 6, but that memory allocation
for GCC 3.4.5 (MinGW version) is far worse than that of MSCRT / VC++ 6.
(And Python still smokes them both).
Tim N. van der Leeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And the results of IronPython (1.0rc2) are just in as well:
I can't test this one.
And for Python 2.5:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/My Documents/Python
$ /cygdrive/c/Python25/python.exe SpeedTest.py
Begin Test
Number of unique string objects: 4
so
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:48:46 -0500, Richard Blackwood wrote:
Two, is
Python a good language for simulation programming?
Civilization 4 is (partly) written in Python. I suppose they thought Python
was a good language for that. I said partly because as far as I know some
code is C++ for speed
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 11:41:05 GMT, John Pote wrote:
Where can I get the various papers mentioned in the manual? And as I like
books sitting on the shelf can someone recommend a book on sockets.
Unix Network Programming by Stevens
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:58:50 GMT, John Salerno wrote:
I use UltraEdit right now, and it is possible to convert spaces and tabs
back and forth, but it's just an extra step.
I wouldn't definitely suggest UltraEdit to code Python.
Probably you should try scite.
I'm using TextMate (but it's
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:48:11 GMT, John Salerno wrote:
Why do you say that?
Because I tried it and it just lacks a lot of functionality you get with
TextMate or Emacs. It is quite stupid when indenting, just to name one.
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On 1 Mar 2006 11:32:02 -0800, Derek Basch wrote:
This one has always bugged me. Is it better to just slap a self in
front of any variable that will be used by more than one class method
or should I pass around variable between the methods?
I think there is no clear general answer. A criterion
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:00:43 -0800, Johannes Graumann wrote:
There's also the rlcompleter module, but in the interest of better platform
agnosis I'd like to stick with cmd ...
I would have suggested readline..
This works on Windows:
http://newcenturycomputers.net/projects/readline.html
This
On 28 Feb 2006 11:20:05 -0800, SolaFide wrote:
(get() is a function which waits for a ping on a specific port, thus
stopping the program for a while.)
It's a busy wait?
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On 26 Feb 2006 14:55:04 -0800, Andrea Griffini wrote:
IMO another language that would be hard to classify is COBOL ... but
for other reasons :-)
According to Dijkstra:
The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be
regarded as a criminal offence.
That makes Cobol a
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