Re: What are OOP's Jargons and Complexities

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Schilling
Timofei Shatrov wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:48:05 GMT, Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] tried to confuse everyone with this message: Xah Lee wrote: So, a simple code like this in normal languages: becomes in Java: Only when written by someone almost entirely ignorant of Java

Re: What are OOP's Jargons and Complexities

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Schilling
bugbear wrote: Er. How about public class test { public static void main(String[] args) { String a = a string; String b = another one; StringBuffer c = a + b; String c (etc.), that is. System.out.println(c); } } --

Re: What are OOP's Jargons and Complexities

2007-03-29 Thread Mike Schilling
Xah Lee wrote: So, a simple code like this in normal languages: a = a string; b = another one; c = join(a,b); print c; or in lisp style (set a a string) (set b another one) (set c (join a b)) (print c) becomes in Java: public class test { public static void main(String[] args)

Re: Xah Lee network abuse

2006-06-11 Thread Mike Schilling
Philippa Cowderoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Mike Schilling wrote: I'm not aware of any definition of libel that includes making statements that are not provably true. I believe UK law uses one that's close to it. If I were to write

Re: Xah Lee network abuse

2006-06-11 Thread Mike Schilling
Erik Max Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling wrote: If I were to write, say, that Tony Blair's tax policy will lead to higher deficits, I could be convicted of libel? Even if that's true, it's not a priori provable. I think what he

Re: Xah Lee network abuse

2006-06-10 Thread Mike Schilling
Mallor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I know I'm coming late to the barbeque. In passing, I ask: do you have an objective, impartial perspective on the subject of committing crimes? Because libel is a crime. It all depends on whether what you state about Xah is

Re: OT: Quote ? [was: John Bokma harassment]

2006-05-26 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris Uppal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [apologies to the whole flaming crowd for sending this to the whole flaming crowd...] Geoffrey Summerhayes wrote: After you kill Navarth, will it be nothing but gruff and deedle

Re: OT: Quote ? [was: John Bokma harassment]

2006-05-26 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris Uppal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [apologies to the whole flaming crowd for sending this to the whole

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-26 Thread Mike Schilling
P.L.Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree. I have already written to Dreamhost and I hope more people will do so. I have found some of what has been posted here quite astonishing and the actions of certain people to be reprehensible: by far the most serious

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-03-19 Thread Mike Schilling
Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language Xah Lee, 200502, 200603. In languages human or computer, there's a notion of expressiveness. English for example, is very expressive in manifestation, witness all the poetry and

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: The Concepts and Confusions of Pre-fix, In-fix, Post-fix and Fully Functional Notations

2006-03-17 Thread Mike Schilling
Roedy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 17 Mar 2006 00:58:55 -0800, Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : Hmmm... it displays fine via google groups. Maybe it's the reader which is 'non-compliant' ? I am using Agent.

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-26 Thread Mike Schilling
David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no different to Microsoft beween a bare computer and one preloaded with Linux or FreeBSD. One can quickly be converted to other with minimal cost of effort. In the market, bare PCs really do compete with

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Schilling
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:17:14 +, axel wrote: Employees have *no* obligations towards the shareholders of a company. They are not employed or paid by the shareholders, they are employed by the company itself which

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread Mike Schilling
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What matters in generating HTML is which browsers you want to support

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [ w3c standard v.s. ISO ] You haven't said why you thinbk standards are more valuable than recommendations. We apparently both agree

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18 Oct 2005 06:57:47 GMT, John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted : That an HTML standard (ISO/IEC 15445:2000) and an HTML recommendation by w3c (4.01 for example) are two

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread Mike Schilling
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, once more, why are standards *more valuable* than recommendations? standards are written by internationally recognized independent organisations, v.s. everyone can write

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread Mike Schilling
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] One alternative, as I've said, is to write to the standards, and then work around bugs in the popular browsers. If the public whim changes which browser is most popular - I am not holding my breath. it only has minimal

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yup, but ISO C++ is a standard, and XML is a recommendation. And the practical difference between the two

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Oct 2005 05:22:47 GMT, John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted : No, it's a recommendation, an advise, nothing else. Otherwise they would call it a standard. Why do you think

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread Mike Schilling
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What matters in generating HTML is which browsers you want to support and what they understand. Standards and recommendations are both irrelevant. Unless, of course, you want

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Roedy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Oct 2005 05:22:47 GMT, John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Which standards? W3C doesn't make standards (they talk about working drafts and recommendations), so nothing

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message No, it's a recommendation, an advise, nothing else. Otherwise they would call it a standard. Why do you think W3C calls

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread Mike Schilling
John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Which standards? W3C doesn't make standards (they talk about working drafts and recommendations), so nothing to warp there for MS. Umm, a recommendation *is* a standard. And Microsoft must disagree with you. When the spec

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-25 Thread Mike Schilling
CBFalconer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling wrote: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: l v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message Xah Lee wrote: (circa 1996), and email should be text only (anti-MIME

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-25 Thread Mike Schilling
Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Mike Schilling wrote: Another advantage is that evewry internet-enabled computer today already comes with an HTML renderer (AKA browser), so that a message saved to a file can be read very easily. I

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-25 Thread Mike Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Mike Schilling wrote: Another advantage is that evewry internet-enabled computer today already

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-25 Thread Mike Schilling
Denis Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling wrote: I see a difference between X would be useful for A, B, and C and Y will always be the only proper way. Don't you? Y would not be useful because of the bandwidth it consumes, the malware

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-24 Thread Mike Schilling
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: l v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Xah Lee wrote: (circa 1996), and email should be text only (anti-MIME, circa 1995), I think e-mail should be text

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-23 Thread Mike Schilling
l v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Xah Lee wrote: (circa 1996), and email should be text only (anti-MIME, circa 1995), I think e-mail should be text only. I have both my email and news readers set to display in plain text only. It prevents the marketeers and

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-12 Thread Mike Schilling
Jürgen Exner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Xah Lee wrote: Jargons of Info Tech industry (A Love of Jargons) Xah Lee, 2002 Feb People in the computing field like to spur the use of spurious jargons. The less educated they are, the more they like extraneous