sting zipapp.py.
You can just run it with "python zipapp.py". I've tried using it to
make zstd and stored archives.
Tangential: the zip file format compresses each file separately, which
reduces the potential for good compression compared to "solid" formats
like .tar.gz. We
Den 2025-11-14 skrev Stefan Ram :
> Martin =?UTF-8?Q?Sch=C3=B6=C3=B6n?= wrote or quoted:
>>If I try to specify a python version I don't get a new environment. The
>>error message I get is:
>>"The following packages are missing from the target environment:
>>
On 2025-11-16, Pokemon Chw via Python-list wrote:
> On Linux AF_UNIX + SOCK_STREAM sockets, there is a quirk in how the
> kernel handles control messages with SCM_RIGHTS:
>
> To successfully pass file descriptors via SCM_RIGHTS, you must send
> at least one byte of normal d
You have some demo code for it?
Kind Regards,
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
about <https://compileralchemy.github.io/> | blog
<https://compileralchemy.substack.com/>
github <https://github.com/Abdur-RahmaanJ>
Mauritius
On Mon, 10 Nov 2025, 07:18 Mingye Wang via Python-list, <
p
Den 2025-11-13 skrev Loris Bennett :
Hi Loris,
Thanks for quick respons.
> Martin Schöön writes:
>
>>
>> I want to create a new environment using a specific python version
>> rather than leaving that to conda. Cheat-sheets and online conda
>> documentation tell me
About two years ago I moved from pip to conda. I have been happy with
conda until yesterday.
I want to create a new environment using a specific python version
rather than leaving that to conda. Cheat-sheets and online conda
documentation tell me to use:
conda create -n python=
like:
conda
Zipapp is meant to produce things that will be delivered to an end-user. In
this way it should behave like most packaging tools and offer more "thorough"
compression options, limited only by the version of the Python interpreter on
the user's side (more specifically, their zipfi
"print version"
>
> However, with the above, I still need to specify the mandatory argument,
> even if I only want to see the version.
>
> I guess I'll just have to change
>
> nargs="+"
>
> to
>
> nargs="*"
>
> and check explicitly whether any arguments have been given.
>
> Seems odd to me though that there is not a standard way of implementing
> '--version' which works like '--help' does.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Loris
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On 10/22/25 7:14 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> And that's why it's so frustrating when someone bases their entire
> argument on an AI's nonsense. If the OP had simply posted it as a
> request, with no hallucinated claims, it would have been a
> straight-fo
On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 at 12:01, Michael Torrie via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 10/19/25 12:38 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> > The entire premise of your post was flat-out wrong. Your data was
> > nothing but hallucinations, and there is nothing to discuss. I'
On 10/19/25 12:38 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> The entire premise of your post was flat-out wrong. Your data was
> nothing but hallucinations, and there is nothing to discuss. I'm not
> even going to bother reading further, because every post you've
> writt
On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 at 02:01, wrote:
>
> Thanks again for your detailed reply — I really appreciate it. I have to
> admit, I wasn’t 100% sure about my data, which is why I submitted it for
> discussion before opening a bug report to the Python developers.
>
Don't. Don'
Thanks again for your detailed reply — I really appreciate it. I have to admit,
I wasn’t 100% sure about my data, which is why I submitted it for discussion
before opening a bug report to the Python developers.
I alredy checked Unicode tables, I saw that the capital ß (U+1E9E) was already
dopting it in 2017. The
> relevant case mappings are clearly specified in the Unicode Character
> Database (CaseFolding.txt / SpecialCasing.txt), so Unicode itself does
> recognize this direct uppercase/lowercase relationship.
>
> The current Python behavior (mapping "ß"
specified in the Unicode Character Database
(CaseFolding.txt / SpecialCasing.txt), so Unicode itself does recognize this
direct uppercase/lowercase relationship.
The current Python behavior (mapping "ß" → "SS") reflects older, legacy Unicode
data — not the current standard. Language
On 06/09/2025 17:21, MRAB wrote:
On 2025-09-06 13:47, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
I quite often find myself writing expressions of the form
someString[x : x+n]
where n is often an int and x may be an int, a variable, or a (possibly
complicated) expression.
It would be more natural
Hello friends,
Can I know what’s going on?! Please
في سبت، 18 أكتوبر، 2025 في 7:11 ص، كتب Chris Angelico via Python-list <
[email protected]>:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 at 13:44, wrote:
> >
> > Dear Python Developers,
> >
> > I would like to bring attenti
On Oct 7, 2025, at 13:14, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list
wrote:
>
> Very sad ... At least as Steve Dower suggested even if we could get an
> email from Discourse or something.
I too will miss these announcements. I understand not having to post things to
multiple pl
://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-14-0-final-is-here/104210
for the 3.14.0 release notes.
Regards from a colourful autumnal Helsinki,
Your release team,
Hugo van Kemenade
Ned Deily
Steve Dower
Łukasz Langa
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Am Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 10:51:42AM +0200 schrieb Jean-François Bachelet via
Python-list:
> at least a mailing list is way more frugal. and internet friendly.
And above all, PUSH rather than PULL.
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On 07/10/2025 20:37, Thomas Passin wrote:
On 10/7/2025 2:49 PM, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
On 06/09/2025 17:21, MRAB wrote:
On 2025-09-06 13:47, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
I quite often find myself writing expressions of the form
someString[x : x+n]
where n is often an
On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 at 13:44, wrote:
>
> Dear Python Developers,
>
> I would like to bring attention to an inconsistency and legacy behavior
> regarding the handling of the German sharp S characters in Python’s string
> case conversion methods.
>
This isn't Python
Dear Python Developers,
I would like to bring attention to an inconsistency and legacy behavior
regarding the handling of the German sharp S characters in Python’s string case
conversion methods.
Currently, Python’s .upper() method converts the lowercase sharp S (U+00DF,
“ß”) to the uppercase
Hello Python Team ^^)
It's indeed VERY sad that you would kill these mailing list !
we are a lot NOT using hungry ressources stuff like discuss, discord,
or others that require a web browser to read
at least a mailing list is way more frugal. and internet friendly.
Cheers,
Jeff
> Which brings to mind a possible alternate syntax: s[x::n]
This would AFAIK collide with the the x[a:b:c] syntax, which already means
something, the c is the size of a step
<https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#slice>
M
On 8 October 2025 16:22:46 CEST, python-
Mauritius
On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 8:06 PM Hugo van Kemenade via Python-list <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Note: we also announce CPython releases at
> https://discuss.python.org/tag/release and https://blog.python.org, and
> are planning on only announcing at those places
In case anyone stumbles upon this, here's my question and partial self-answer
on Stack Overflow: https://stackoverflow.com/a/79765602/396373
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Hi,
I am testing the
[concurrent.interpreters](https://docs.python.org/3.14/library/concurrent.interpreters.html)
feature from Python **3.14rc3** (the latest current rc).
The subinterpreter seems to behave in a surprising way when encountering syntax
errors. For example, in the following code
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Note: we also announce CPython releases at
https://discuss.python.org/tag/release and https://blog.python.org, and are
planning on only announcing at those places in the future, and not on this
mailing list.
Please see https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-14-0rc3-is-go/103815 for
the 3.14.0rc3
Well, that was the more important thing to do. :)
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Hi Steve, ask away...
On 11/09/25 16:15, Steve Jorgensen via Python-list wrote:
I posted a question here several days ago and received a "Welcome to the
"Python-list" mailing list!" email, but I still don't see my question in the list.
I'm posting this mainly to
ebug mode enabled: Using pdb post-mortem on uncaught exceptions.
Uncaught exception: ZeroDivisionError: division by zero
> debug_hook.py(19)cause_exception()
-> return 1 / 0 # Will raise ZeroDivisionError
(Pdb) i
3
(Pdb)
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nd down my backtrace like I am in gdb.
In fact, it is better than gdb. I can use evaluate any python expression
directly, and verify the shape of my tensors and exactly what caused
the error. It's like freezing the entire program right at the time the
program failed. This way I don't hav
tters for a class and its
instances.
Does anyone know of anywhere in the Python docs or PEPs that have the
information needed to predict this behavior?
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I posted a question here several days ago and received a "Welcome to the
"Python-list" mailing list!" email, but I still don't see my question in the
list.
I'm posting this mainly to see if it shows up, or I get a reply from a
moderator, or something like tha
On 7/09/25 00:47, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
I quite often find myself writing expressions of the form
someString[x : x+n]
where n is often an int and x may be an int, a variable, or a (possibly
complicated) expression.
0 A PEP
1 A helper-function
eg slice_by_length
(or less plausibly "321").
I don't have a strong opinion on this; there may be good reasons for
preferring one to another.
Does anybody think this is a good idea?
Best wishes
Rob Cliffe
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On 03/09/2025 15:45, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2025, 15:40 Rob Cliffe, wrote:
On 03/09/2025 15:35, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2025, 15:21 Rob Cliffe via Python-list,
wrote:
On 03/09/2025 14:59, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> On 9/3/25 07
I have not installed python for a long time so I am not sure whether the
following configure flags are sufficient/recommandable for a
Python3.12.11 installation.
--prefix=/opt
--with-lto
--enable-optimizations
--enable-loadable-sqlite-extensions
--with-ensurepip=install
--with-pydebug
--with
very few weeks or so, when they add
a new breaking change. Conda world brings a lot of unnecessary
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How do you start (and thus run) a Python project?
tldr; question in last paragraph
Two articles appeared in my InTray:
- Reuven Lerner (Python Trainer) saying "You’re probably using uv wrong"
(https://lerner.co.il/2025/08/28/youre-probably-using-uv-wrong/),
NB adapted from [hi
7;d appreciate it if someone could advise me on which version of Python is
recommended for that operating system.
Thank you very much.
Arodri
Thomas Passin escreveu (terça, 2/09/2025 à(s) 23:24):
> On 9/2/2025 11:29 AM, amrodi--- via Python-list wrote:
> > I'm new to Python.
>
"pip install
./matplotlib-3.9.2-cp313-cp313-win_amd64.whl". You will probably get
an error, and hopefully, the error message will give you some idea
about why it couldn't install this in your initial attempt.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 11:00 PM Rob Cliffe via Python-list
wrote:
>
> He
On Wed, 3 Sep 2025, 15:40 Rob Cliffe, wrote:
>
>
> On 03/09/2025 15:35, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2025, 15:21 Rob Cliffe via Python-list, <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 03/09/2025 14:59, Mats Wic
On 03/09/2025 15:35, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2025, 15:21 Rob Cliffe via Python-list,
wrote:
On 03/09/2025 14:59, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> On 9/3/25 07:20, Rob Cliffe wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 03/09/2025 00:01, Mats Wichmann wrote:
>
On Wed, 3 Sep 2025, 15:21 Rob Cliffe via Python-list, <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On 03/09/2025 14:59, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> > On 9/3/25 07:20, Rob Cliffe wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 03/09/2025 00:01, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> &g
On 03/09/2025 14:59, Mats Wichmann wrote:
On 9/3/25 07:20, Rob Cliffe wrote:
On 03/09/2025 00:01, Mats Wichmann wrote:
On 9/2/25 14:51, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
There are two roots here:
(1) it's not finding a prebuilt wheel. You can see that because
it's propos
On 03/09/2025 00:01, Mats Wichmann wrote:
On 9/2/25 14:51, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
There are two roots here:
(1) it's not finding a prebuilt wheel. You can see that because it's
proposing to use the source distribution instead:
> Collecting matplotlib
>
On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 1:46 PM amrodi--- via Python-list
wrote:
>
> I'm new to Python.
> Operating System - Windows XP SP3
> Python 2.7 installed.
>
> I got a script that tries to improve the image?
> I created a bat file using the command line.
>
> C:\pyth
Hello, can anyone help? All assistance gratefully received. I am
running python 3.13.3 on a Windows 11 machine and trying to do
pip install matplotlib
(No, I don't need to say "python -m ...", I am running the right version
of python.exe.)
This starts by generating the f
t have to juggle with local variables. The finally
block can write to the return value, so there is no reason to hide the return
value or already caught exceptions here. This would make the code much cleaner
and avoids messing up with the scope of variables.
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Save restored image
sharp.save("STC_restaurada.jpg")
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I'm new to Python.
Operating System - Windows XP SP3
Python 2.7 installed.
I got a script that tries to improve the image?
I created a bat file using the command line.
C:\python27\python.exe d:\temp\teste.py
But even though it runs, it displays an error:
"... no encoding declar
On 01/09/2025 14:26, marius.spix--- via Python-list wrote:
In your example when would isinstance(__exit_context__, ReturnContext)
be True and when would it be False? What would __exit_context__.value
be? I can't think of a sensible meaning for it. If no exception occurs,
is the value ret
On 01/09/2025 14:26, marius.spix--- via Python-list wrote:
In your example when would isinstance(__exit_context__, ReturnContext)
be True and when would it be False? What would __exit_context__.value
be? I can't think of a sensible meaning for it. If no exception occurs,
is the value ret
easier.
What do you think?
Best wishes
Marius Spix
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in order to censor information, such as BitTorrent and
P2P which Python was influential of.
The first implementation and introduction of BitTorrent was in Python.
I supose, that someone would remake this movie, adding more significant
historical events; and, please, remove those brands from those
yet, why not just use Lisp instead? You'd save yourself so much
busy work and have a much nicer tool...
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On 30/08/2025 12:03, marius.spix--- via Python-list wrote:
Dear mailing list,
there is currently no direct way to observe the current interpreter state in a
finally block without tracing.
My idea is introducing an immutable __exit_context__ magic variable, which
would have one of three
):
log_return(__exit_context__.value)
return __exit_context__.value + 1
I wonder if it would be a candidate for a PEP to be implemented in the Python
standard.
Best regards
Marius Spix
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> Had this 'live-test' failed, where would Python be today?
I'm not sure if this is irony or do you honestly believe it
succeeded... but I think that "where Python is today" is pretty
indicative of failure. To me, however, the failure started with the
whole Python 3.X
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 3:37 PM Larry Martell via Python-list <
[email protected]> wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfH4QL4VqJ0
>
> Watched this last night. Overall I enjoyed it (but my wife, who is not a
> programmer, fell asleep). My only quibble is that they s
To you (if apparently in-reply to the OP),
On 30/08/25 07:19, Larry Martell via Python-list wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfH4QL4VqJ0
Watched this last night. Overall I enjoyed it (but my wife, who is not a
programmer, fell asleep). My only quibble is that they spent too much time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfH4QL4VqJ0
Watched this last night. Overall I enjoyed it (but my wife, who is not a
programmer, fell asleep). My only quibble is that they spent too much time
talking about the walrus controversy.
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The suggestion (below) is good-practice. However, it's advanced-Python
compared to the OP's first-course progress.
What is disappointing, is that instead of general strings as file-names
the class has not been introduced to pathlib
(https://docs.python.org/3/library/pathlib.html).
On 29/08/25 10:52, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-08-28, Mark Bourne wrote:
Ethan Carter wrote:
PS. Is it just me or there's just us in this used-to-be-very-active
group? Thanks for being my teacher here. Have a good day!
Until a few months ago, there was a gateway
things like programming
lanugages by watching Youtube videos. [Talk about the worst possible
medium for a particular subject...]
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ystem won't 'delete'
the actual file (inode and associated storage blocks) unless that was
the only link to the inode and there are no open file handles
associated with the inode. When the total number of links/handles
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On 2025-08-27, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 at 01:28, Ethan Carter wrote:
>> def copy(s, d):
>> """Copies text file named S to text file named D."""
>> with open(s) as src:
>> with open(d,
two opens into a single with
statement. If you can guarantee a minimum Python version of 3.10
(released 2020, now in source-only-fix mode, so any fully supported
version will indeed be >=3.10), you can write it like this:
with (open(s) as src,
open(d, "w") as dst):
or this:
w
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Hello,
I recently hacked together a script called entanglement.py that uses
libclang to parse C++ headers and generate a Python wrapper that can
call the C++ symbols in a .so directly. The Itanium C++ ABI is easy
enough to call from ctypes with 1 exception. Returning a class by
value from C
en all the consumers finished, the queue is
still not empty. So the producers can't finish.
I am very confused about this. Why use lock has synchronization problem. It
seems when the last producer put None to queue, other producers still can
put normal data to queue. I am not famil
On 2025-08-05, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote:
> On 5/24/25 7:19 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 May 2025 at 10:05, Rob Cliffe via Python-list
>> wrote:
>>> Yes, but if I understand correctly, they all start from a single
>>>
On 5/24/25 7:19 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2025 at 10:05, Rob Cliffe via Python-list
> wrote:
>> Yes, but if I understand correctly, they all start from a single
>> directory (and work downwards if required).
>> My suggestion involved sear
It’s the first 3.14 release candidate!
https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140rc1/
This release, 3.14.0rc1, is the penultimate release preview. Entering the
release candidate phase, only reviewed code changes which are clear bug
fixes are allowed between this release candidate and
to ``markers``.
* Fix #238: Add build tag to wheel metadata if specified.
* Fix #243: Update to support free-threading version of Python (3.13t).
* Fix #246: Support subdirectories in the dist-info directory. Thanks to Pieter
P for the patch.
* Fix #248: Fix path normalization issue caused by
Dear Sirs.
I found the following sentence in the Python documentation: "The statements
executed by the top-level invocation of the interpreter, either read from a
script file or interactively, are considered part of a module called
__main__<https://docs.python.org/3.11/library/__mai
I was surprised to find that in configparser, getboolean() does not
raise KeyError for a non-existent config parameter.
Demo program (Python 3.11.5, Windows 11):
import configparser
config = configparser.ConfigParser()
config.read('ThisFileDoesNotExist.ini') # This line could
I am using Python 3.13.3 on Windows 11.
I notice that the compiler can optimise (some) constant expressions
containing operators plus numbers or strings, e.g.
2+2 is compiled as 4
1 + (2.5 + 3+4j) is compiled as 6.5+4j
'a' + 'b' is compiled as 'ab'
Other languages uses thread pool, instead of creating new thread.
In Python,loop.run_in_executor uses thread pool.
https://docs.python.org/3.13/library/asyncio-eventloop.html#asyncio.loop.run_in_executor
2025年6月24日(火) 8:12 Mild Shock :
>
> So what does:
>
> stats = await async
reads from the equation?
Also... I have no idea why Python needs async/await. It's a very
confusing and unwieldy interface to epoll. I never found a practical
reason to use this, unless in the situation where someone else used
this in their library, and I had to use the library. All in all,
last case.
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The solution was provided in this thread here:
https://discuss.python.org/t/extended-import-syntax-for-aliasing-module-attributes/95920/3
The correct way to implement is:
import module
from module import optimize, validate as check
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Thank you. I have used this link. I had difficulty finding it.
https://discuss.python.org/
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Thank you. I have posted this idea on https://discuss.python.org/c/ideas/6
I had difficulty trying to find that.
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Thanks, D'Arcy. I've done a fair amount of 2-to-3 migration in the past, but
there was a lot of stuff in that article ("six", for instance) that I hadn't
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Thanks. That appears to be exactly the thing I was looking for (vis-a-vis
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wrote:
>
>
> > On 17 Jun 2025, at 00:19, Omar Ahmed via Python-list <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I would like to propose a potential addition to Python's `import` syntax
> that would improve clarity and ergonomics for cases wh
On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 8:19 AM Barry Scott wrote:
>
>
> > On 17 Jun 2025, at 00:19, Omar Ahmed via Python-list <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I would like to propose a potential addition to Python's `import` syntax
> that
On 17/06/2025 00:19, Omar Ahmed via Python-list wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to propose a potential addition to Python's `import` syntax that
would improve clarity and ergonomics for cases where developers want both full
module access *and* a local alias to a specific attribute within
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Greetings. We (the group that I work with) have "inherited" some Python
scripts that were written years ago, using Python 2.
We're trying to upgrade the scripts so that they work in our current
environment:
OS: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS
$ python --version
consumption
Better reconnection handling via Dilation timeouts
pytest test suite conversion
Python 3.9 support dropped (good call in line with ecosystem trends)
sdist file renaming (PEP 625 compliance)
These seem like solid improvements for both the end-user experience and
contributors. Has anyone here
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Being a user of that list i've also noticed that only recently. hope that
this list is good enough to take on all python questions. Are there any
other alternative lists? Thx
On Wed, 28 May 2025, 01:35 Alan Gauld via Python-list, <
[email protected]> wrote:
> I am the mo
ke 28.5.2025 klo 1.45 Thomas Passin ([email protected]) kirjoitti:
> On 5/27/2025 10:41 AM, Roland Mueller via Python-list wrote:
> > To get a list of files in a given directory one can use glob.glob and
>
> The OP had a different problem. He wanted to find a config file of
&g
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