ActivePython 3.1.1.2 vs Python 3.1.1 for OSX?

2009-09-30 Thread Robert Hicks
I am just curious which I should use. I am going to start learning Python soon. Are they comparable and I just do a "eenie meenie minie moe"? Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Types, Cython, program readability

2008-03-28 Thread Robert Hicks
On Mar 16, 5:48 pm, Jeff Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unlike Perl or Tcl, Python is not just a > scripting language with a set of ad-hoc extensions.  There are still > issues, and Python probably will never be a general-purpose replacement > for system-native language compilers, but it does

Re: Pycon disappointment

2008-03-16 Thread Robert Hicks
On Mar 16, 12:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mar 16, 6:10 am, Bruce Eckel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think a lot of people have been caught up in the idea that we need > > to commercialize Python, and ride some kind of wave of publicity the > > way that Java and C# and Rails seem to h

Re: ISO Python example projects (like in Perl Cookbook)

2008-01-10 Thread Robert Hicks
On Jan 10, 11:13 am, kj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for "example implementations" of small projects in > Python, similar to the ones given at the end of most chapters of > The Perl Cookbook (2nd edition, isbn: 0596003137). (Unfortunately, > the otherwise excellent Python Cookbook (2nd

Re: New Tk look (aka Ttk or Tile widgets)

2008-01-10 Thread Robert Hicks
On Jan 10, 9:08 am, "Guilherme Polo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/1/10, Robert Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Do I have to install something extra to use the new look? > > > Robert > > -- > >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listin

New Tk look (aka Ttk or Tile widgets)

2008-01-10 Thread Robert Hicks
Do I have to install something extra to use the new look? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Spaces and tabs messing up code

2008-01-08 Thread Robert Hicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > my friend uses vim > and i use xemacs > so our shared python code is a mix of tabs and spaces and it is hard for > him to edit it in vim > > any idea on how to make it clean > convert it all to 4 spaces? > > Thanks > :set ts=4 :retab! :h retab -- http://mail.pyt

Re: a simple tcp server sample

2007-11-07 Thread Robert Hicks
On Nov 7, 1:54 pm, Tzury Bar Yochay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, the following sample (from docs.python.org) is a server that can > actually serve only single client at a time. > > In my case I need a simple server that can serve more than one client. > I couldn't find an example on how to do t

Re: try/except with multiple files

2007-06-21 Thread Robert Hicks
On Jun 21, 3:11 pm, Matimus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It depends, what are you going to do if there is an exception? If you > are just going to exit the program, then that works fine. If you are > going to just skip that file, then the above wont work. If you are > going to return to some other

try/except with multiple files

2007-06-21 Thread Robert Hicks
Is it good practice to do something like: try: f1 = file('file1') f2 = file('file2') except: # catch the exception Or do you do a try/except for each open? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Removing Python 2.4.4 on OSX

2007-03-25 Thread Robert Hicks
On Mar 25, 7:08 am, "has" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 24 Mar, 18:30, "Robert Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I want to upgrade to 2.5 but I don't see any unistall instructions > > anywhere. > > To repeat what others

Re: Removing Python 2.4.4 on OSX

2007-03-25 Thread Robert Hicks
On Mar 24, 11:53 pm, "js " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only way you can do is rermove python2.4.4's files manually. > > I suggest you to use MacPorts or Fink. > > With MacPort, you can uninstall python2.4 by doing > $ port uninstall python24 > > And Installation is > $ port install python25 >

Re: Removing Python 2.4.4 on OSX

2007-03-24 Thread Robert Hicks
On Mar 24, 2:06 pm, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Hicks schrieb: > > > I want to upgrade to 2.5 but I don't see any unistall instructions > > anywhere. > > Don't do it. OSX uses the shipped version for its own purpo

Re: Removing Python 2.4.4 on OSX

2007-03-24 Thread Robert Hicks
On Mar 24, 2:09 pm, "Greg Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 24 Mar 2007 10:30:28 -0700, Robert Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I want to upgrade to 2.5 but I don't see any unistall instructions > > anywhere. > > You're not requ

Removing Python 2.4.4 on OSX

2007-03-24 Thread Robert Hicks
I want to upgrade to 2.5 but I don't see any unistall instructions anywhere. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: SQLObject 0.8.0b2

2007-01-22 Thread Robert Hicks
Where is Oracle support? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Beginners Tutorial in PDF Format?

2007-01-21 Thread Robert Hicks
W. Watson wrote: > I'd like to print a tutorial in one fell swoop, but it seems most on the > various sites are page by page embedded descriptions in the page. Any > available as a pdf? > > Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) > (121.015 Deg. W, 39.26

Re: *POLL* How many sheeple believe in the 911 fairy tale and willingto accept an Orwellian doublespeak and enslavement world ?

2007-01-17 Thread Robert Hicks
> > Regards, > > Barry > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 541-302-1107 > > We who cut mere stones must always be envisioning cathedrals. > > -Quarry worker's creed Sure, but did you actually post your phone number on USENET? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Re: *POLL* How many sheeple believe in the 911 fairy tale and willing to accept an Orwellian doublespeak and enslavement world ?

2007-01-17 Thread Robert Hicks
Please, none of the real facts points to anything else except what actually happened. Two planes hit two towers and they came down. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Python book, new edition?

2007-01-11 Thread Robert Hicks
I would get "Core Python Programming" by Wesley Chun. It covers just about everything under the sun and includes version 2.5. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Book recommendations

2006-12-06 Thread Robert Hicks
On Dec 6, 7:09 am, "west" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone recommend a Python book for a newbie and perhaps you have a used > one for sale? Thank you. > Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional by Magnus Lie Hetland Core Python Programming (2nd Edition) by Wesley Chun There are plent

Re: SQLObject release 0.7.2

2006-12-04 Thread Robert Hicks
Oracle? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: OT: What's up with the starship?

2006-10-15 Thread Robert Hicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > T. Bryan wrote: > > Thomas Heller wrote: > > > > > I cannot connect to starship.python.net: neither http, nor can I login > > > interactively with ssl (and the host key seems to have changed as well). > > > > > > Does anyone know more? > > > > starship.python.net was com

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

2006-10-07 Thread Robert Hicks
Giovanni Bajo wrote: > You might also be understimating how negative could be the reaction from the > open-source community to such a move. > -- > Giovanni Bajo That is simply rediculous. Step away from the kool-aid. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

2006-10-07 Thread Robert Hicks
Steve Holden wrote: > Perhaps what I *should* have written was "Sadly *many* people spend too > much time bitching and moaning about those that roll their sleeves up, > and not enough rolling their own sleeves up and pitching in". > > Sniping from the sidelines is far easier than hard work toward

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

2006-10-07 Thread Robert Hicks
Giovanni Bajo wrote: > Paul Rubin wrote: > > >> You fail to recognize that Python is *already* using a non-free > >> software for bug tracking, as do thousands of other projects. > > > > I don't think that reflects an explicit decision. SF started out as > > free software and the software became

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

2006-10-04 Thread Robert Hicks
Giovanni Bajo wrote: > Hello, > > I just read this mail by Brett Cannon: > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-October/069139.html > where the "PSF infrastracture committee", after weeks of evaluation, > recommends > using a non open source tracker (called JIRA - never heard before o

Re: The Python world tries to be polite [formerly offensive to another language]

2006-09-30 Thread Robert Hicks
Steve Holden wrote: > Istvan Albert wrote: > [...] > > ps. as for the title of this post, it is ironic that you are insulting > > another community while asking for no insults > > > Perhaps so, but none the less comp.lang.perl has a demonstrable history > of newbie-flaming. Don't know what it's li

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Robert Hicks
Christoph Haas wrote: > On Saturday 16 September 2006 19:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I second that the Python documentation is lacking. There is no software > that is adequately documented anyway. Show me a man page of a Perl module > and it takes me minutes to use it. I would say that Perl

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Robert Hicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, > > > it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you > > > need to read 10 times before understanding what it mea

Re: Are Python's reserved words reserved in places they dont need to be?

2006-09-12 Thread Robert Hicks
metaperl wrote: > Istvan Albert wrote: > > metaperl wrote: > > > --> python -i > > > >>> class = "algebra" > > > File "", line 1 > > > class = "algebra" > > > ^ > > > SyntaxError: invalid syntax > > > > Designing a syntax to avoid all possible newbie errors is impractical > > beca

Re: OO on python real life tutorial?

2006-09-02 Thread Robert Hicks
filippo wrote: > Claudio Grondi ha scritto: > > (megasnip) > > I caught your point of view. I start reading a book on wxpython to > understand if it can help to solve my problems. At the same time I will > port my program to Python/Tk in order to have a faster first beta > release. > > Thanks for

Re: activestate vs enpython

2006-07-14 Thread Robert Hicks
mclaugb wrote: > Um, i didnt see at the "more information" link whether "numpy, > numarray, matplotlib, scipy, and scientific python" was included . > There's your answer... :Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: sum fonction in gadfly

2006-06-30 Thread Robert Hicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Robert Hicks wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > why are people so concerned > > > that it's not changing? > > > > > > > I didn't mean to be irritating and I wasn't concerned about it not >

Re: sum fonction in gadfly

2006-06-30 Thread Robert Hicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Robert Hicks wrote: > > I haven't been keeping up. Is Gadfly still in development? > > I always find this question a little > irritating -- gadfly is perfect the > way it is :). If it ain't broke don't > fix it. At least u

Re: Python taught in schools?

2006-06-25 Thread Robert Hicks
BartlebyScrivener wrote: > dan>> but out of curiousity does > dan>> anyone know of a school that teaches Python? > > http://www.python.org/about/quotes/ > > University of Maryland > > "I have the students learn Python in our undergraduate and graduate > Semantic Web courses. Why? Because basically

Re: sum fonction in gadfly

2006-06-24 Thread Robert Hicks
I haven't been keeping up. Is Gadfly still in development? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Xah Lee network abuse

2006-06-11 Thread Robert Hicks
Erik Max Francis wrote: > Mallor wrote: > > > I know I'm coming late to the barbeque. In passing, I ask: do you have > > an objective, impartial perspective on the subject of committing > > crimes? Because libel is a crime. > > No, it is a tort. > Can I have whipped cream and strawberries on th

Re: which windows python to use?

2006-05-11 Thread Robert Hicks
I tend to do ActivePython because the OSX version seems to come out a bit quicker. Although that might change in the future. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Time to bundle PythonWin

2006-05-11 Thread Robert Hicks
No it isn't. It is a Windows only package. It needs to stay a separate download. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: 2 books for me

2006-05-11 Thread Robert Hicks
Wouldn't portability go with Tkinter since that is installed with every Python? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Tkinter

2006-04-08 Thread Robert Hicks
Maybe because Tkinter comes *with* Python? It is sometimes easier to understand the way things work in Tkinter vs wxPython as well. Though I will add that Manning has just published "wxPython in Action" so that should help newbies out as well. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Re: RELEASED Python 2.5 (alpha 1)

2006-04-05 Thread Robert Hicks
That is cool and that will be a great addition to the libraries. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: MVC in Python for web app dev

2006-03-26 Thread Robert Hicks
http://www.myghty.org/ That one is excellent. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: New Python logo in high resolution format

2006-03-24 Thread Robert Hicks
How about we all get tatoos? : ) Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python has a new Logo

2006-03-23 Thread Robert Hicks
You are s lame. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is python very slow compared to C

2006-02-11 Thread Robert Hicks
Most languages are slow compared to "C". Python is fast enough for just about anything you want to do with it. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Yet another GUI toolkit question...

2006-02-11 Thread Robert Hicks
Wow you are so wrong about Tk on OSX. Soon this is just not going to be the case at all for any of the system Tcl/Tk runs on. The Tcl folks have come out with a package called "Tile" that is going to be rolled in. It gives you native L&F on OSX, Windows, Linux. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: error rising while connecting oracle 9i

2006-01-07 Thread Robert Hicks
python_eager wrote: > Hi >i am connecting my database oracle 9i. While connecting i am > getting the following error > > connection = cx_Oracle.connect("myusername", "mypassword", "python") > RuntimeError: Unable to acquire Oracle environment handle > Do you have the Oracle client installed? Mi

Re: Python 2.4 - Help does not work in Windows

2006-01-04 Thread Robert Hicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Could anyone give me some pointers on where I might look to debug this > problem? In case it's any help, I'm running Windows XP SP2, and have > installed both Python2.3 and Python 2.4 on the same system. Could this > be causing some conflict? > It must be. I just tried

Re: - E04 - Leadership! Google, Guido van Rossum, PSF

2005-12-27 Thread Robert Hicks
Guido has never been, is not, and will not in the future be, a threat to Python. End of story. Unless of course aliens come into play. You never know. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Indentation/whitespace

2005-12-26 Thread Robert Hicks
No, it is that simple. You don't want it to be is all. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Indentation/whitespace

2005-12-25 Thread Robert Hicks
I disagree...I don't think the whitespace rule will ever be "optional". Why would it be so? If someone doesn't like it...choose another language. It is that simple really. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The Varieties of Pythonic Experience (was: Guido at Google)

2005-12-22 Thread Robert Hicks
You mean Jython is still going? ; ) Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PYTHONDOCS on OSX

2005-11-28 Thread Robert Hicks
Dave Opstad wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Robert Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How do I set this variable in my .bash_profile? I have the html docs in > > /usr/local/PythonDocs. > > I have a line in my .profile like thi

PYTHONDOCS on OSX

2005-11-27 Thread Robert Hicks
How do I set this variable in my .bash_profile? I have the html docs in /usr/local/PythonDocs. Thanks for any help... Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Can't uninstall wxPython

2005-11-12 Thread Robert Hicks
Justin wrote: > I have two versions of wxPython installed on my Mac (OS X Tiger). One > is version 2.6.1.0 and the other is version 2.6.0.0. I want to keep > the newer version, but I can't seem to uninstall either one using the > uninstall_wxPython.py script. > > When I run that script, I get th

Re: A Tcl/Tk programmer learns Python--any advice?

2005-11-10 Thread Robert Hicks
Why does there need to be OO "in the core"? That is one thing I have never understood. If you want OO, get a package that fits your style of OO and "package require" you are off and running. That probably isn't what you would be looking at Tcl for anyway. I agree about Tk and I am actually talking

Re: A Tcl/Tk programmer learns Python--any advice?

2005-11-09 Thread Robert Hicks
Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] says... > > Ah, another one leaves the fold... : \ > > I think I saw somebody say about OO in Python: "It's there, but you > don't have to use it." Every time somebody wants OO in the core of tcl, > he is asked: "Why d

Re: A Tcl/Tk programmer learns Python--any advice?

2005-11-08 Thread Robert Hicks
Ah, another one leaves the fold... : \ Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Dealing with Excel

2005-10-18 Thread Robert Hicks
No, I have to format fields and everything sad to say. Another poster up the chain of this posting gave me the nudge in the direction I needed. Thanks all, Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Dealing with Excel

2005-10-18 Thread Robert Hicks
I just want to be and maybe I am not reading your response right. I am talking about reading in bunch of rows out of Oracle and writing them to an excel file, not using macros. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Dealing with Excel

2005-10-18 Thread Robert Hicks
I need to pull data out of Oracle and stuff it into an Excel spreadsheet. What modules have you used to interface with Excel and would you recommend it? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: UI toolkits for Python

2005-10-16 Thread Robert Hicks
Grant Edwards wrote: > Aside from the look & feel issue with Tk, the other objection > sometimes heard is that Tk is integrated into Python by > including Tcl as well (as opposed to doing an actual Tk binding > the way some other languages have done). It's an eminently > practical approach, but