Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-26 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I don't know what drugs you're on, but the McDonald's corporation most > certainly is in the

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Steven D'Aprano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> The first two points are factually wrong, and the third is an opinion >> based on the concept, as far as I can see, that Microsoft should be >> all

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Yes, it certainly is. However, it is also Microsoft's right as a >>> seller >&

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Eike Preuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Shouldn't it be my right as a seller, to decide that I want to sell an >> operating system 'that nobody wants' _as well as_ operating systems that >> 'e

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> 3) there are plenty of other OSs that are developed or could be >> developed but which cannot get a footho

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) There is no other operating system worth selling. In this case, you > are right, you have no choice but to sell the Microsoft OS, but the deal > they're offering you harms you in no way. (Unless you intended to sell PCs > w

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [DS, MS shill, said ..] >>> Essentially, Microsoft asked for exclusive arrangements. That is, >

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but that's the "if". I have a monopoly on *me* mowing your lawn. > You can, of course, go to someone else to have your lawn mowed. Of course you can't - why would anyone else be available to mow my lawn just because I want

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think you need to look up "extortion" in a dictionary. I can walk up >> to you and say "if you want me to mow your lawn, you must pay me $1 every >> time you smoke a cigarette". So long as you can say "no" and all that >> ha

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-20 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc T Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter T. Breuer wrote: >> In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-20 Thread T Beck
Peter T. Breuer wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Not if they abuse a monopoly position in doing so, which is w

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-20 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Not if they abuse a monopoly position in doing so, which is where we >> started. > In other wo

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-20 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> There would be if an engine manufacturer refused to provide car >> manufacturers with ANY engines for any model,

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here in comp.os.linux.misc, > John Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying: >>Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> It seems to me that I was using 3.x. Maybe it was 3.1?

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting wrote: > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting >> wrote: >>> Without Microsoft 90% of us would never have seen a computer more &

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess I wasn't explicit enough. Most people who want cars also want an > engine. Some don't. Dealers could sell cars and engines separately. They > just (generally) don't. There is nothing illegal or immoral about this. Ther

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc John Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting >> wrote: >>> Without Microsoft 90% of us would never have seen a computer more powerful >>> than a ZX-

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-14 Thread Peter T. Breuer
In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting wrote: > Without Microsoft 90% of us would never have seen a computer more powerful > than a ZX-81 and 90% of the rest of us would never have used only dumb > mainframe terminals. Uh - when microsoft produced dos 1.0, or whatever it was, I was sitting at my

[OT] Re: "grep" database

2005-09-09 Thread Ara . T . Howard
gt; Any suggestions appreciated. > > Thanks, > Hilbert google 'glimpse'. hth. -a -- ======= | email :: ara [dot] t [dot] howard [at] noaa [dot] gov | phone :: 303.497.6469 | Your life dwells amoung the causes

Re: python object model diagram

2005-09-09 Thread Ara . T . Howard
7;s close at least... thanks for the links! regards. -a -- === | email :: ara [dot] t [dot] howard [at] noaa [dot] gov | phone :: 303.497.6469 | Your life dwells amoung the causes of death |

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-29 Thread T Beck
John Bokma wrote: > "T Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [snip] > > alongside of it. The internet is a free-flowing evolving place... to > > try to protect one little segment like usenet from ever evolving is > > just ensuring it's slo

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread T Beck
John Bokma wrote: > "T Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If we argue that people are evolving the way e-mail is handled, and > > adding entire new feature sets to something which has been around > > since the earliest days of the internet, then that&#

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-25 Thread T Beck
today only remotely resembles the original, so the argument that usenet should never change seems a little heavy-handed and anachronistic. --T Beck -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python and the web

2005-08-22 Thread Joe T.
Hello group, I'm new to Python and have a couple of beginner questions that I'm hoping someone can answer. 1. Is python something that you would recommend using for server side web programming? Something like C# or Java? If so, are there any resources that you could point me to that would help m

Encryption with Python?

2005-05-05 Thread Blake T. Garretson
I want to save some sensitive data (passwords, PIN numbers, etc.) to disk in a secure manner in one of my programs. What is the easiest/best way to accomplish strong file encryption in Python? Any modern block cipher will do: AES, Blowfish, etc. I'm not looking for public key stuff; I just want

Re: Python Challenge ahead [NEW] for riddle lovers

2005-04-29 Thread Mark T
"pythonchallenge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > For the riddles' lovers among you, you are most invited to take part > in the Python Challenge, the first python programming riddle on the net. > > You are invited to take part in it at: > http://www.pythonchallenge.c

Re: Variables

2005-04-24 Thread T Väntänen
him that foo is indeed a variable. Thanks all! Richard B. For example in physics formula for falling object distance: d = (1/2)*g*t^2 In physics (math) d and t are variables and g is a constant. When you start to calculate the distance you assign some values to the variables, you cant touch the

Signals and system

2005-04-10 Thread T Koster
Hi folks, My python program needs to download a number of files. Each file comes as a list of mirrors of that file. Currently, I am using system (os.system) to run wget. The mechanism is in a loop, so that it will try all the mirrors while wget is exiting with a non-zero exit status. This is

Newbiw - PypenGL and OpenGLContext

2005-03-28 Thread Steve T
I have been searching for a language to help with a product I am developing - last week I discovered PYOpenGL - looks really useful. I found some demos which I studied to create part of what I need (a heap of boxes) but when I try and add an image to the box faces it looks as if I have to delve in

Re: getting text from WinXP console

2005-03-22 Thread Mark T.
"Chris Maloof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello, > > Does anyone know how I can read the ASCII text from a console window > (from another application) in WinXP? It doesn't sound like a major > operation, but although I can find the window via pywin32, I haven't

Re: Decimal, __radd__, and custom numeric types...

2005-03-01 Thread Blake T. Garretson
Thanks for the suggestions and modified module. I will probably just use this "fixed" module to solve my immediate problem. I appreciate your post to python-dev as well; it looks like this may be addressed in a future release. :) Thanks, Blake -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-

Decimal, __radd__, and custom numeric types...

2005-02-28 Thread Blake T. Garretson
I'm having some issues with decimal.Decimal objects playing nice with custom data types. I have my own matrix and rational classes which implement __add__ and __radd__. They know what to do with Decimal objects and react appropriately. The problem is that they only work with Decimals if the cust

FCGI Help?

2005-02-13 Thread Kevin T. Ryan
I'm also hoping to use something a little less daunting than Apache if possible. Thanks for your help, and sorry for such a long post! Kevin T. Ryan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: deepcopy chokes with TypeError on dynamically assigned instance method

2005-02-12 Thread @t comcast d.t net
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:22:35 +1000, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Interesting. The problem appears to be that bound methods are not copyable: > Curiosity got the better of me and I started diggin about in copy.py. Turns out that return values of reductors for functions don't include

Re: Mac OS and MySQLdb

2005-01-28 Thread T. Kaufmann
Andy Dustman wrote: The source is for all platforms. Use the Source, Luke. If 1.1.9 does not compile on Mac OS X, file a bug. Thanks a lot;-). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: lies about OOP

2005-01-01 Thread Daniel T.
"H. S. Lahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Les Hatton "Does OO sync with the way we think?", IEEE Software, 15(3), > > p.46-54 > > "This paper argues from real data that OO based systems written in C++ > > appear to increase the cost of fixing defects significantly when > > compared with system

Re: lies about OOP

2005-01-01 Thread Daniel T.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A paper finding that OOP can lead to more buggy software is at > http://www.leshatton.org/IEEE_Soft_98a.html Sure, OOP *can* lead to more buggy software, that doesn't mean it always does. > Les Hatton "Does OO sync with the way we think?", IEEE Software, 15(3), > p.4

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