[issue1581] xmlrpclib.ServerProxy() doesn't use x509 data

New submission from Andreas Hasenack: I was trying to use xmlrpclib.ServerProxy() with https and client certificate validation (I know httplib doesn't do server certificate validation yet). I found no way to pass on host/uri as a (host,x509_dict) tuple as the connection methods support, so I

[issue1114345] Add SSL certificate validation

Changes by Andreas Hasenack: -- nosy: +ahasenack _ Tracker [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bugs.python.org/issue1114345 _ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http

RE: Timeout test hangs IDLE

I once made a small app that used threads on IDLE. There was a strange error when using 'print' threads. When what I printed filled the entire screen, instead of moving all the text up, IDLE just hanged. Try running your code from the shell instead, to see if the problem is in IDLE.

RE: Timeout test hangs IDLE

On Dec 5, 6:00 am, Andreas Tawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to integrate the timeout function from herehttp://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/47 3878into a long running automation script and the following code causes IDLE after 20 or 30 iterations in countTest

RE: Timeout test hangs IDLE

On Dec 5, 6:00 am, Andreas Tawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to integrate the timeout function from herehttp://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/47 3878into a long running automation script and the following code causes IDLE after 20 or 30 iterations

Timeout test hangs IDLE

I'm trying to integrate the timeout function from here http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/473878 into a long running automation script and the following code causes IDLE after 20 or 30 iterations in countTest. This is in 2.5, XP and there's no traceback. Could someone point

[issue1521] string.decode() fails on long strings

Andreas Eisele added the comment: How do you run the test? Do you specify a maximum available size? I naively assumed that running make test from the toplevel would be clever about finding plausible parameters. However, it runs the bigmem tests in a minimalistic way, skipping essentially all

[issue1521] string.decode() fails on long strings

Andreas Eisele added the comment: Tried @bigmemtest(minsize=_2G*2+2, memuse=3) but no change; the test is done only once with a small size (5147). Apparently something does not work as expected here. I'm trying this with 2.6 (Revision 59231). __ Tracker

[issue1521] string.decode() fails on long strings

Andreas Eisele added the comment: Thanks a lot for the patch, which indeed seems to solve the issue. Alas, the extended test code still does not catch the problem, at least in my installation. Someone with a better understanding of how these tests work and with access to a 64bit machine should

[issue1521] string.decode() fails on long strings

Andreas Eisele added the comment: Then 7G is enough for the test to run. yes, indeed, thanks for pointing this out. It runs and detects an ERROR, and after applying your patch it succeeds. What else needs to be done to make sure your patch finds it's way to the Python core

[issue1521] string.decode() fails on long strings

New submission from Andreas Eisele: s.decode(utf-8) sometimes silently truncates the result if s has more than 2E9 Bytes, sometimes raises a fairly incomprehensible exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 2, in module File /usr/lib64/python2.5/encodings/utf_8.py

[issue1521] string.decode() fails on long strings

Andreas Eisele added the comment: For instance: Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Aug 30 2007, 16:15:51) [GCC 4.1.0 (SUSE Linux)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. __[1] s= *int(5E9) 6.05 sec __[1] u=s.decode(utf-8) 4.71 sec __[1] len(u) 705032704

[issue1521] string.decode() fails on long strings

Andreas Eisele added the comment: An instance of the other problem: Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Aug 30 2007, 16:15:51) [GCC 4.1.0 (SUSE Linux)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. __[1] s= *int(25E8) 2.99 sec __[1] u=s.decode(utf-8) Traceback (most

Re: count pages in a pdf

Tim Golden wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to parse a pdf file in python? for starters, i would like to count the number of pages in a pdf file. i see there is a project called ReportLab, but it seems to be a pdf generator... i can't tell if i would be able to parse a pdf

[issue1381] cmath is numerically unsound

New submission from Andreas Kloeckner: This here basically says it all: import cmath;[cmath.asinh(i*1e-17).real for i in range(0,20)] [4.4408920985006257e-16, 4.4408920985006257e-16, 4.4408920985006257e-16, 4.4408920985006257e-16, 4.4408920985006257e-16, 4.4408920985006257e-16

[issue1381] cmath is numerically unsound

Andreas Kloeckner added the comment: On Samstag 03 November 2007, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Martin v. Löwis added the comment: Can you propose a patch? Other than point at how boost.math does things, I don't have the time to work on this right now, sorry. Andreas

Re: Strange behaviour with reversed()

On Oct 19, 1:49 pm, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Kraemer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only other behaviours I would regard as intuitive for iteration over a mutating sequence would be to throw an exception either for mutating the sequence while the iterator exists

Re: Strange behaviour with reversed()

may also have added to the confusion since its similarity to sorted suggests that a copy of the list is returned. However, type(reversed([])) type 'listreverseiterator' and for comparison type(iter([])) type 'listiterator' reveals what it really is. -Andreas -- http://mail.python.org

Re: Need scrip to reed rss feeds

On Oct 18, 4:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does any one know whare I can find some code to phrase a rss feeds? Thank you, Ted Try http://feedparser.org/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Strange behaviour with reversed()

StopIteration else: return self.seq[self.i] so it doesn't copy anything, just book-keeping of indexes. I guess one would call this kind of object a (special) view of the sequence. Cheers, Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Last iteration?

): if i == len(myList)-1: print j*j else: print j Cheers, Andreas Tawn Lead Technical Artist Ubisoft Reflections -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: storing meta data on dictionary keys

[...]In fact, now that I think of it, get_key is probably a bad name for it, get_other_object_with_this_same_key is probably more apt :) Or more precise: get_key_that_was_used_when_value_was_inserted_into_dictionary :-) Or even more precisely:

Parsing a commandline from within Python

of strings foo bar and some text from the commandline foo bar some text)? If not, do you have any other ideas how to handle this problem (increasing commandline length, xml files might be a way)? Regards, Andreas Huesgen Viel oder wenig? Schnell oder langsam? Unbegrenzt surfen + telefonieren ohne

Re: Parsing a commandline from within Python

', 'some text'] Thanks, that is exactly what i need. Andreas Huesgen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: storing meta data on dictionary keys

On Oct 11, 10:17 am, Erik Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, duck typing and inheritance are two different things. Duck typing is when you implement the same operations as another object or class, whereas with inheritance you get the same implementation as that of the parent class. Except

Re: storing meta data on dictionary keys

On Oct 11, 1:42 pm, Erik Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 11, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Andreas Kraemer wrote: On Oct 11, 10:17 am, Erik Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, duck typing and inheritance are two different things. Duck typing is when you implement the same operations as another

Re: storing meta data on dictionary keys

: get_key_that_was_used_when_value_was_inserted_into_dictionary :-) Thanks, for taking the time for this elaborate response! Cheers, Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: storing meta data on dictionary keys

On Oct 9, 9:18 pm, Erik Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, do you not keep references to your nodes anywhere but the actual graph dict? I kind of agree with Chris here in that two dicts will work. One for the nodes, indexed by their strings. Yes, I guess that's exactly what I want. To keep

Re: Keeping track of subclasses and instances?

track of their instances ... Cheers, Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

mutable objects as dictionary keys

syntax like class A(*bases): pass Is there a better approach? Any comments are appreciated. I have been seriously using Python for one year know, mostly in the context of graph algorithms etc., and it has always been a delightful coding experience! Best regards, Andreas -- http

storing meta data on dictionary keys

, Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: storing meta data on dictionary keys

. get all keys with keys()), but I thought something similar to a get_key() dictionary method would be the easiest way to retrieve the actually stored key object, and I was just surprised to discover that no such method does exist -Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

RE: Really basic problem

have an exact representation as floating point. Interestingly: 0.10001 == 0.1 True 0.30004 == 0.3 False I guess this means that Python has some concept of close enough, but I'll have to defer to someone more knowledgeable to explain that. Cheers, Andreas Tawn Lead

RE: Really basic problem

and a head-smack, I realise that you're absolutely right and I just made the same mistake as the OP (doh). It does demonstrate just how sneaky floating point representations are though. Cheers, Andreas Tawn Lead Technical Artist Ubisoft Reflections -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python

Re: generating range of numbers

i just want to generate numbers in the form like: 1,2,4,8,16,32.to a maximum of 1024 using a range function a = [2**x for x in range(11)] a [1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024] Cheers, Andreas Tawn Lead Technical Artist Ubisoft Reflections -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Zope] how do I test for the current item in an iteration

--On 28. September 2007 16:36:43 +0100 kamal hamzat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I have this error after i added the if statement Error Type: TypeError Error Value: mybrains.__cmp__(x,y) requires y to be a 'mybrains', not a 'int' for i in context.zCatNewsCurrent(): if i = 5:

python osgi

Is there something like a osgi implementation in python? I am really impressed by the bundle system and the possibility to load and unload bundles without wasting memory. Is it even possible to do something like that in python? Would be nice to have a very small python interpreter and just load

Re: interesting puzzle......try this you will be rewarded...

) Maybe http://www.pythonchallenge.com/ ? Cheers, Drea Andreas Tawn Lead Technical Artist Ubisoft Reflections -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: expat error, help to debug?

Aloha, Andreas Lobinger wrote: Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andreas Lobinger wrote: Anyone any idea where the error is produced? ... to share my findings with you: def ex(self,context,baseid,n1,n2): print x,context,n1,n2 return 1

Re: expat error, help to debug?

Aloha, Andreas Lobinger wrote: Andreas Lobinger wrote: Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andreas Lobinger wrote: Anyone any idea where the error is produced? The registered Handler has to return a (integer) value. Would have been nice if this had been mentioned

[issue1045] Performance regression in 2.5

New submission from Andreas Kloeckner: The attached program uncovers a two-fold performance regression in Python 2.5 with respect to Python 2.4. Below, the element-wise case goes from 2.5 seconds in 2.4 to about 4 in 2.5. Since that's a pretty serious increase, I thought I'd point it out

Re: expat error, help to debug?

Aloha, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andreas Lobinger wrote: Anyone any idea where the error is produced? Do you want to try adding an EndElementHandler as well, just to get more information on where the error might be happening? I want. Adding an EndElement (left

expat error, help to debug?

Aloha, i'm trying to write an xml filter, that extracts some info about an .xml document (with external entities), esp. start elements and external entities. The document is a DOCBOOK xml and afacs well formed and passes our docbook toolchain (dblatex etc.). My parser is (very simple): [115]

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

Twisted files, because F1 didn't work and there was no help menu, if such a Twisted thing ever happened on Windoze). Ever heard of man pages? and info? 'Andreas -- Wherever I lay my .emacs, there's my $HOME. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

-manipulation Twisted tool or whatever...you have to save it to a file and load it, which is Twisted a pain in the butt and slowly clutters your hard drive with Twisted temporary files you occasionally forget to delete. You obviously have no clue about working under Unix either. 'Andreas

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

and dynamic Twisted class loading!) Have a look at Genera, the OS of the Lisp Machines. It offers all that and much more. Unfortunately it is almost non existent nowadays. 'Andreas -- Wherever I lay my .emacs, there's my $HOME. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Good Python style?

style? Or would you recommend to refrain from such complex single-line code?? Thanks! Andreas inp = resource(some_file) # read first entries of all non-empty lines into a set some_set = frozenset([line.split()[0] for line in \ filter(None, [ln.strip() for ln in inp])]) -- http

python module developer wanted for 'libmsgque'

://libmsgque.sourceforge.net/tclmsgque.htm Regards, Andreas Otto (aotto1968) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Edu-sig] minimum age to learn python (a.k.a graphical vs text languages)

in a day). More than rumor apparently: http://www.cmu.edu/cmnews/extra/060310_alice.html Cheers, - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Array delete

Hey, Can someone plz make a function for that takes a array, and then search in it for duplicates, if it finds 2 or more items thats the same string then delete all except 1. Short: it deletes all duplicates in a array thanks -- _.____

RE: dynamic library loading, missing symbols

of the symbols in my module? Have you already checked the output of LD_DEBUG=all or sth. like that? cheers, aa -- Andreas Ames | Programmer | Comergo GmbH | Voice: +49 711 13586 7789 | ames AT avaya DOT com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: dynamic library loading, missing symbols

claimes to provide this feature on Windows, but I haven't tried and it limits your choice of tools (http://edll.sf.net/). cheers, aa -- Andreas Ames | Programmer | Comergo GmbH | Voice: +49 711 13586 7789 | ames AT avaya DOT com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

mutable numeric type

Is there anything wrong with such design? I am a bit surprised that Python does not already come with such data type (which is really simple to implement). Is there something that I am missing here? Thanks! Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Type text global

Hey, I'm a noob at python so.. I just want to know, is there a function to type text global not in the program but in other programs(like you where typing it). For example in a textbox, in a program like cmd.exe or notebook.exe. I'm using windows xp. Thanks! :) /Scripter47 --

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: BeautifulSoup vs. loose chars

Duncan Booth skrev: Felipe Almeida Lessa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Dec 2006 04:22:38 -0800, placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So do you want to remove or replace them with amp; ? If you want to replace it try the following; I think he wants to replace them, but just

Portable apps

? StarKIT? Best regards Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ANN: pyFltk-1.1.1

the project home page: http://pyfltk.sourceforge.net Have fun! Andreas http://pyfltk.sourceforge.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html

RE: Singleton Class Exception

inherits (directly or not) from 'object'. Although new style classes are allowed as exceptions in 2.5, an additional requirement is, that the exception must inherit from BaseException (or must not be a new style class instance at all, as before). cheers, aa -- Andreas Ames | Programmer

Re: Sending Dictionary via Network

Leif K-Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote: mumebuhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The simplejson module is really cool and simple to use. This is great! JUST what I need for some configuration files

Re: Sending Dictionary via Network

mumebuhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The simplejson module is really cool and simple to use. This is great! JUST what I need for some configuration files!! Thanks for the link (die, configparse, dieee). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Classes and Functions - General Questions

have a really, really weird problem that also heavily depends on the type of parameters. Simply stick to the first one, this will be sufficient for 90% of all cases. Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Find out the name of a variable passed as an argument

Hello everybody, is there a way to receive the name of an object passed to a function from within the function. something like def foo(param): print theNameOfTheVariablePassedToParam var1 = hello var2 = world foo(var1) var1 foo(var2) var2 thanks in advance, greets Andreas

Re: Verify an e-mail-adress - syntax and dns

Ingo Linkweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bjoern Schliessmann schrieb: Ingo Linkweiler wrote: b) verify an existing mailserver or DNS/MX records Or? That's two different things. If you don't know already: Even if you test all this, it is still

Re: What is the best way to get a web page?

something like: os.popen(wget -r3 http://juicypornpics.com;) wget understands the peculiarities of web pages so you do have to. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python reference counting and exceptions

as a try/except. The finally clause is always executed, whether or not an exception is raised. Yes, of course it must be the try finally construct and not try/except. Shame on me ;) Andreas Huesgen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

python reference counting and exceptions

block around every peace of code that locks some resources. Greets, Andreas Huesgen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Python and STL efficiency

++ is so easy. That means that in spite of its warts (GIL, memory efficiency ...) I don't easily come to a dead end using python. This fact lets me use python's great strengths (like programmer efficiency etc.) without tossing and turning sleeplessly in my bed. cheers, aa -- Andreas Ames

Re: Python Expert

Perseo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi guys, we are looking for a python developer for a European project. This project is multilangual and free it is called EuroCv and it need a module for exporting data in PDF. A brute-force approach could be to sidestep PDF

RE: How do you implement this Python idiom in C++

, IMHO. I think the above code has it right in this case rather than your python version (after all c isA CountedClass, isn't it?). cheers, aa -- Andreas Ames | Programmer | Comergo GmbH | Voice: +49 69 7505 3213 | ames AT avaya DOT com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is a type error?

Darren New wrote: Andreas Rossberg wrote: Yes, technically you are right. But this makes a pretty weak notion of mutability. All stateful data structures had to stay within their lexical scope, and could never be passed to a function. Not really. The way Hermes handles

Re: What is a type error?

by far the worst incarnation of aliasing issues to the table. - Andreas -- Andreas Rossberg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is a type error?

holding other mutable objects (immutable pointer types exist, but are only interesting if you also have pointer arithmetics - which, however, is largely equivalent to arrays, i.e. not particularly relevant either). - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is a type error?

an *aspect* of mutability in lower-level languages. Again, I disagree: it is posible to have mutability without pointers/identity/objects. OK, if you prefer: it is an aspect of first-class mutability - which is present in almost all imperative languages I know. :-) - Andreas -- Andreas Rossberg

Re: What is a type error?

transformation bugs, notwithstanding the relative complexity of suitable internal type systems. - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: wxPython and Linux dependencies

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Error message cannot find wx infact I have wxpython in /usr/lib/ I installed it using the rpms given on the wxPython website. Do I need to set some path or something. I vaguely remember that wxWindows changed name to wxWidgets and

Re: Py2exe make wxPython window looks bad

file in the program dir. See examples in the py2exe installation dir. Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language [correction]

was removed as default because of frequent user complaints. Which is why this actually is a very bad example to chose for dynamic typing advocacy... ;-) - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

of the function before actually running it. Eval itself can easily be expressed on top of this as a polymorphic function, which does not run the program if it does not have the desired type: eval ['a] s = typecase compile s of f : (()-'a) - f () _ - raise TypeError - Andreas -- http

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

. Anyway, I can't believe that we actually need to argue about the fact that - for any *useful* and *practical* notion of safety - C is *not* a safe language. I refrain from continuing the discussion along this line, because *that* is *really* silly. - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

, but it clearly also varies. - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

by the types-are-sets metaphor - to capture something like type abstraction you need to do more. (Even then it might be arguable if it really describes the same thing.) - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

. - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

Marshall wrote: Andreas Rossberg wrote: Chris Uppal wrote: I have never been very happy with relating type to sets of values (objects, whatever). Indeed, this view is much too narrow. In particular, it cannot explain abstract types, which is *the* central aspect of decent type systems. What

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

. Mh, I'd say typecase is actually a form of reflection, which is yet a different issue. Moreover, there are statically typed languages with typecase (e.g. Modula-3, and several more modern ones) or related constructs (consider instanceof). - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

will always hold numbers. I'm confused. Are you telling that you just write a+b in your programs without trying to ensure that a and b are in fact numbers?? - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

with a mutable reference-to-union type, as I suggested? It expresses this perfectly well. - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

comparison function to pass for individual calls, so that the programmer does not have to bother.) - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

abstract types in a types-as-sets metaphor. - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

typed languages wish to lump these languages together with assembly language a untyped in an attempt to label them as unsafe. No, see above. And I would assume that that is how most proponents of the typed/untyped dichotomy understand it. - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

OT: wxPython GUI designer

Don Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I find it easy to use sizers in wxGlade. Just gave is a spin yesterday: How does on fix the size of layout; I can only manage to get sizers to distribute space evently amongst the fields, which is *not* what I want. --

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

this is totally different from simple tagging, because it deals with real types at runtime. - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

to derive) their types too, but that's a separate issue. Most values are anonymous. Nevertheless their types are known. Unfortunately it's often necessary to break static type systems. Your definitely using the wrong static language then. ;-) - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

for that purpose). - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

it isn't *able* to *vary.* Let's call it a named constant. The name of a function argument is a variable. Its denotation changes between calls. Still it cannot be mutated. Likewise, local constants depending on an argument are not constant. - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

(or another abuse of the term type). - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

) - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

. And there certainly are more in the OO camp. But honestly, I do not remember when I last had to actively work with one of them, including Java... :-) - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

... Pascal does, IIRC.) I guess you just work with better languages than I do. :-) OK, I admit that I exaggerated slightly. Although currently I'm indeed able to mostly work with the more pleasant among languages. :-) (Btw, Pascal did not have it either, AFAIK) - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

ingredient of a type system, nor is eliminating tags very relevant to its function. - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

mainstream languages enforce for, but also only allow for, variable declarations). - Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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