On Dec 6, 12:54 pm, king kikapu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
have anyone using this release of NetBeans (6.5 with Python support)
with Python 3 without any problems ? I mean, does it work with Python3
or only with 2.x ?
No-one is using NetBeans for Python development ??
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Hi,
have anyone using this release of NetBeans (6.5 with Python support)
with Python 3 without any problems ? I mean, does it work with Python3
or only with 2.x ?
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Same for me here too! C# on the work, Python earning at the evening. I
am bored to death with so many .net/C# years and i wanted to learn
something different and cross platform. I think it will pay back some
time...
On May 12, 10:50 pm, JustMe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12 May, 20:02,
On 14 Απρ, 16:48, 一首诗 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I read this article onhttp://kortis.to/radix/python_ext/
And I decided to try if it's true.
I write the program in 4 ways:
1. Pure C
2. Python using C extension
3. Python using psycho
4. Pure Python
And then I used timeit to test the speed
On 14 Απρ, 16:20, bvidinli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I program in python for about 2-3 monthos.
I just started/tested gui programming with many tools.
i tested boa last, it is the closest tool to delphi in tui tools that i used.
I managed to play with it a bit.
If you have any other tool
On 28 Μαρ, 20:06, Paul Boddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 27 Mar, 15:19, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Psyco maintenance and further development]
Nope, but I heard through the grapevine that while it won't be supported for
all times to come, a new version is in the making.
On 29 Μαρ, 16:03, Luis M. González [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 27 mar, 13:14, king kikapu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One reason attention is going to PyPy instead of Psyco...
Jean-Paul
I had a look at PyPy, it, indeed, have a very long way to go so we can
consider it an alternative
Hi,
i am trying to fit Eclipse/Pydev in my needs/preference, so i want
to ask this:
As it is now, i see all my projects in that TreeView (PyDev Package
Explorer). I would rather want this to behave like a more normal IDE
where you Open one project and if you want close it and Open another,
just
A, and another one: If i set a custom builder for a pydev project, is
there a way for this builder to automatically be assigned to every
(pydev) project i will create from now on or i have to re-define it
for every new one ?
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Hi,
it seems that Psyco's author will not port it for the upcoming Python
3000 release :(
So, for us who use it we will continue to use CPython 2.5.x version
for some time to come. Is there an alternative to Psyco so i can have
a look at ?
Thanks in advance.
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On 27 Μαρ, 14:35, Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
king kikapu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
it seems that Psyco's author will not port it for the upcoming Python
3000 release :(
I think the idea is it will be part of PyPy and you should use that.
I know that his efforts are on PyPy
On 27 Μαρ, 15:56, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
king kikapu wrote:
On 27 Μαρ, 14:35, Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
king kikapu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
it seems that Psyco's author will not port it for the upcoming Python
3000 release :(
I think the idea
As for psyco, are there any alternatives to use now ?
Nope, but I heard through the grapevine that while it won't be supported for
all times to come, a new version is in the making.
Aha!! It seems you have better sources than me! :)
But ultimately, the author says that the approach is
If it's about some problems, then maybe Cython is an alternative.
http://cython.org
Stefan
Hmmm...thanks but i think Pyrex-like solution is not the ideal one.
Coming from C# and having 8 years of expertise on it, i have gain a
very positive thinking about jit compilers and i think that psyco
One reason attention is going to PyPy instead of Psyco...
Jean-Paul
I had a look at PyPy, it, indeed, have a very long way to go so we can
consider it an alternative.
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I use it for some time now and i think it is the best Python IDE out
there, especially if someone wants to play with Qt. If you are on
Windows, just install the Windows binary, it' all there!
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On 14 Δεκ, 01:09, Fabio Zadrozny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm...but this means that i am forced to do this for ALL .ui files on
the project, either changed or not and this can slow things down...
(pyuic.bat can run for one or for ALL .ui files)
The goal is to find a way to automatically
Hi, this is actually goes to whoever is using Eclipse and Eric4, the
IDE that comes bundled with PyQt.
I was using Eclipse until i saw Eric4 and i started experiment with
it, very nice work.
Eric4 has a feature that actually reminds us the work of some
expensive IDEs, like Visual Studio, Delphi
You can create a builder for calling an external program to do that on
builds (right-click project - properties Builders).
Another option is configuring an external program run -- menu: run
external tools open external tools dialog (and you can bind a
shortcut to rerun the last external
On Sep 3, 9:15 am, Michele Simionato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Sep 3, 2:21 am, llothar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My personal opinion (and I am not the only one in the Python
community) is that
if you want to scale the way to go is to use processes, not threads,
so removing the GIL would be
I was wondering (and maybe i still do) about this GIL problem. I am
relatively new to Python (less than a year) and when i started to
think about it i said: Oh, this IS a problem. But when i dig a
little more, i found that Ah, maybe it isn't.
I strongly believe that the best usage of multiple
I was wondering (and maybe i still do) about this GIL problem. I am
relatively new to Python (less than a year) and when i started to
think about it i said: Oh, this IS a problem. But when i dig a
little more, i found that Ah, maybe it isn't.
I strongly believe that the best usage of multiple
I was wondering (and maybe i still do) about this GIL problem. I am
relatively new to Python (less than a year) and when i started to
think about it i said: Oh, this IS a problem. But when i dig a
little more, i found that Ah, maybe it isn't.
I strongly believe that the best usage of multiple
On Aug 21, 12:00 pm, Joel Andres Granados [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello list:
I have tried various times to use an IDE for python put have always been
disapointed.
I have also tried a lot of them (IDEs) in the last year. I was finally
happy with Eclipse/Pydev but i was always wanted a more
Fabio,
thanks for the reply!
Anyway, i saw that i cannot import anything if i use Source Folders
in Eclipse/PyDev. The only way i can accomplish that is by using
PyDev Packages. Thus, i can import whatever i want ant intellisense
is working great! I just cannot understand the usefulness of PyDev
Hi,
i am using Eclipse (Platform Runtime binary) with PyDev and i was
wondering if someone can help me with this:
1. I set breakpoints to a .py file and i have told Eclipse to open the
Debug perspective when it sees that some .py file(s) of my project
indeed contains breakpoints. So, i press F9,
On Aug 13, 1:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 13, 11:48 am, king kikapu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
i am using Eclipse (Platform Runtime binary) with PyDev and i was
wondering if someone can help me with this:
1. I set breakpoints to a .py file and i have told Eclipse to open
Ah, i forgot another one:
as any project evolves, you need to organize it in directories. So, i
have a project named Dev and Eclipse has provided me (in Navigator)
with Dev and Src. Inside Src i put my .py files. Let's say that i
want to create a directory there (will i make it in Src or in Dev)
On Aug 10, 10:33 pm, Nikita the Spider [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
king kikapu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi King Kikapu
There's a shared memory module for Python, but it is *nix only, I'm
afraid. I realize you said mainly Windows but this module seems to do
what
Hi,
inspired of the topic The Future of Python Threading, i started to
realize that the only way to utilize the power of multiple cores using
Python, is spawn processes and communicate with them.
If we have the scenario:
1. Windows (mainly) development
2. Processes are running in the same
All of which is avoided by designing the program to operate as
discrete processes communicating via well-defined IPC mechanisms.
Hi Ben,
i would like to learn more about this, have you got any links to give
me so i can have a look ?
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On Aug 10, 1:33 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:21:29 -0700, king kikapu wrote:
Hi,
i read in a book the following code snippet that is dealing with
properties:
class ProtectAndHideX(object):
def __init__(self, x):
assert
Hi,
i read in a book the following code snippet that is dealing with
properties:
class ProtectAndHideX(object):
def __init__(self, x):
assert isinstance(x, int), 'x must be an integer!'
self.__x = ~x
def get_x(self):
return ~self.__x
x = property(get_x)
Maybe is just a writers' play and nothing else.
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I like pydev and purchased the extensions ... there are bugs of course but
what stopped me from using it is a project were I had some very large files
(my fault).
What do you mean by very large files ? Can't PyDev handle such ?
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News (or, news to me :) )
The creator of PyDev, contacted me and told me that latest version of
PyDev need not require the whole SDK but only the Runtime Platfom is
OK. That means that we download only the 40MB file (and not the 120
one) and this does not include all the Java stuff that we see in
Ah, and i think that the working set of Eclipse is smaller now...
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On Aug 3, 5:00 pm, gregarican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 3, 10:58 am, king kikapu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
this is actually a question to those of us who use Eclipse and Pydev
as their main Python developing environment. As i use Eclipse (3.3
Europa) only for Python and i have
Hi,
this is actually a question to those of us who use Eclipse and Pydev
as their main Python developing environment. As i use Eclipse (3.3
Europa) only for Python and i have nothing to do with Java, is there a
way to disable/uninstall some Java-specific stuff and make the
environment actually
On Aug 3, 5:46 pm, Danyelle Gragsone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wonder how long before they come out with a python version of
eclipse. I know there is a C/C++ now.
Danyelle
The only problem i see in Eclipse/Pydev solution is that Eclipse is
bulky...I was not designed for specific Python
Ok, i see...
Thank you all :)
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Hi,
i am trying, to no avail yet, to take a C#'s overloaded functions
skeleton and rewrite it in Python by using closures.
I read somewhere on the net (http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-is-
not-java.html) that in Python we can reduce code duplication for
overloaded functions by using closures.
The closures discussed in the article are not a solution for
function overloading. They are a solution for function
composition.
Hmmm
Python generally has no need for function name overloading--if
you really want it you must do it manually using runtime type
checking.
def func(obj):
Hi,
i have a problem with the following piece of code that id just drive
me nuts (from the morning...)
I think is more Python specific than Qt, folks from Qt forum have
already give me directions of how to do it but that Python error
message is just impossible for me to figure out. And i am sure
It appears that worker.start gets set to the result of
count.ui.spFrom.value(). If that result is an int, then worker.start() is
going to generate the TypeError you received. Did you actually mean to call
worker.run() instead?
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Some friend pointed out to me an hour
Hi, i am reading the book Python Cookbook, 2nd edition and i
encountered a very handy recipe, the one that is called Combining
GUIs and Asynchronous I/O with Threads
It is talking about retain a main GUI thread, doing async work with
worker threads and have both talk through a Queue object to
On May 8, 4:00 pm, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
king kikapu wrote:
Hi, i am reading the book Python Cookbook, 2nd edition and i
encountered a very handy recipe, the one that is called Combining
GUIs and Asynchronous I/O with Threads
It is talking about retain a main GUI
On May 8, 5:52 pm, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It depends on the toolkit you use. Qt has thread-safe custom events in
3.x, and afaik signal/slots (and thus events) are generally thread-safe
in 4.x. So, no problems there.
Diez
Aha...So you do not use polling there (in Qt),
I have at home an AMD Turion 64 and using Ubuntu. You may be
interested on this, i will post here the results when i get back home!
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At Amd Turion 64, it gives:
('32bit', 'ELF')
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Hi to all,
i started with Python at v2.5 and now i see that a new version is
released.
As i already have a lot of stuff for Python installed in the site-
packages directory, which is the correct way to install a new Python
version without do any damage ?
Remove Python and ALL Python related
On Apr 19, 11:39 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 19, 2:03 am, king kikapu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi to all,
i started with Python at v2.5 and now i see that a new version is
released.
As i already have a lot of stuff for Python installed in the site-
packages directory, which
On Apr 19, 12:10 pm, Ant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
checked and everything seems to working fine. But this is an update
release to 2.5, i do not know what is happening when, for example, a
totally new Python version come out, like 2.6 or 2.7 or...
Again just install it - it will by default
On Apr 19, 1:51 pm, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good question. kk is right - with a change in *major* version (such as
2.4 to 3.5, 3.5 to 3.6) the compiled extensions will be incompatible,
and will need to be recompiled. This can take a while, as extension
authors frequently have
I experiment with Ubuntu nowadays, and i find my Windows combination a
realy win also there,
Eclipse and PyDev.
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On Apr 12, 1:02 am, Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All parts of the software have to be licensed compatibly with the GPL. The FSF
has a fairly comprehensive list of the licenses they believe are
GPL-compatible.
The source that you provide needs to be the preferred form for making
I dig a little bit more on the Trolltech's site and i think that this
page is telling all the truth:
http://www.trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/faq
So, this tells us all the good stuff people in this thread are talking
about, i think is clear enough.
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On Apr 11, 10:56 am, Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Others have given good answers. I would only like to clarify what I think is
the
source of confusion here. While the FSF and many open source advocates make a
distinction between the words commercial (meaning that someone derives money
Ok, i see...So i can use Qt OS edition and earn money from this as
long as i explicitly say (is a reference to a GPL in a readme text
file enough for this ?) that this software is under the GPL lisence
and i have the obligation to give the source code with it.
It's a bit more
Ο/Η Robert Kern έγραψε:
It's a bit more complicated than that. There are good resources for
understanding the implications of the GPL on the FSF's site which other people
have pointed out.
From what i can understand, you can sell your product and you have to
give the source. Also you must
Hi to all,
i am coming from the Microsoft (.net) world and at the quest of
finding the right GUI toolkit that i can use from Python, i have two
obvious choices to choose from: wxPython and Qt.
Both are looking very good. Qt has Qt designer, a tool that really
reminds me of the forms designers
Ο/Η Jarek Zgoda έγραψε:
king kikapu napisa³(a):
This is a bullsh*t. Qt is free (as in free speech) on GPL. Nothing
stops you from using it in any commercial project if only it fits the
licensing terms (i.o.w. it's free software). This specially applies to
inhouse development
Ο/Η Peter Decker έγραψε:
There is another alternative: Dabo, which wraps the wxPython toolkit.
It has a GUI designer, although not as polished as the Qt Designer.
Check out some of their screencasts to see their tools in action. You
can find them at http://dabodev.com/documentation
I am
Hi to all folks here,
i downloaded and playing with PythonCard and i just want to share my
thoughts so maybe we can discuss a little about it.
I was used to wxGlade before and i think PythonCard is even better.
I like the separate implementation of GUI and Code that PythonCard
provides, i also
I don't know much about PythonCard or wxGlade, but I use wxPython (which
wxGlade uses, right?) and you now have the option to separate your GUI
and code using an XRC file (xml file that describes layout). So perhaps
this is something you can do with wxGlade, but at the same time it might
Would you please explain more in detail this Message Watcher option?
I use PythonCard from time to time, and I find it very easy to use and
practical, even considering the small shortcomings you mentioned
above, but I have no idea of this feature you're talking about..
Regards,
Luis
Luis,
Ο/Η John Henry έγραψε:
(If I understand your question correctly)
There is no restirction on what you call your objects. For instance,
I do call all of my buttons btnSomeThing, and so forth.
No, i surely didn't mean this! What i mean is that the creation of
these components happens to NOT
Hi,
i am just completed installing Python/Pydev/Eclipse/wxPython on an
Ubuntu system and all are running fine except program that contains
references to wx
It gives me:
ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode/wx/
_core_.so: undefined symbol:
You need to use level 2 info to pass the username.
Level 1 is for the old-style share with its own password.
Also, it should be 'username': instead of just 'user':.
hth
Roger
Roger many-many thanks! That was it, i had to put username instead
of user and 2 instead of 1 at the
Me, i bought this
http://www.amazon.com/Core-Python-Programming-2nd/dp/0132269937/sr=8-1/qid=1172592163/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9302229-1138834?ie=UTF8s=books
and i really think it is a great book for learning Python.
It refers to the latest Python version (2.5) and covers a lot of
things, besides the
Is anyone see any error in the following code:
mapDrive = MyServer\\C$
data = {'remote' : mapDrive, 'local' : 'M:', 'password' :
'mypassword', 'user' : 'Administrator', 'asg_type' : 0}
win32net.NetUseAdd(None, 1, data)
It gives me pywintypes.error: (1326,
I think your problem is that C$ is a special share. Try creating
a share and connect to it instead. It is either that your your userid/
password are in fact incorrect.
-Larry
No, my credentials are absolutely correct. As for the $, what is the
possible problem with that ?? Net use is
def modify(list_of_x):
for x in list_of_x:
try:
x.change_in_place # don't call the method, just check it exists
XX...what exactly is going on here ? I mean, what is actually
happens if you omit the parenethesis as you just did ? I understand
that it does not call
Ο/Η Michele Simionato έγραψε:
See http://users.rcn.com/python/download/Descriptor.htm for more than
you ever wanted
to know about attribute access in Python.
Michele Simionato
Great stuff Michele, thanks!
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Hi to all,
in statically-types languages, let's say C# for example, we use
polymorphism through interfaces. So we define an interface I with
method M and then a class C that implements I interface and write code
for the M method.
So, if we have a function that takes a parameter of type I, we know
Dont restrict them to particular types. You would
not restrict them to a particular class in C#. Instead, you define the
interfaces simply by how you use the objects.
Of cource i restrict them to particular types! In C# you cannot pass
something bad
this way because the compiler will just
at first, thanks you all for your help!
So, i will follow your advice.In a moment though, i thought that ok,
do not check anything of the parameter's type but do a try/catch at
the calls inside the function
But this way, i would rather defeat the purpose because i have to try/
catch in *every*
And so what ? Once an exception got caught, what are you going to do ?
You have absolutely right, that's the reason i rejected this.
You're starting to see the light, my friend !-)
Strange world the dynamic one
If that's too dynamic for you, then run for your life
Hehe...you know,
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Ok, i see..
Thanks a lot all of you for the help. I know from my Win/.Net/Sql
Server expertise that odbc put a layer in the mix. That's why, for
example, in .Net we have a native SqlClient data provider that talks
to Sql Server directly.
But one of the reasons that i started learning Python, is
Hi to all,
i have started a month ago to seriously studying Python. I am now
looking at the databases stuff
and i want the opinion of more experienced Python programmers (than
me) at the following :
I see that there are a lot of databases adapters on the net, some
following the DB-API 2.0 and
Thanks for the replies.
I think i do not need something like ORM, but just a db-module that i
can work the database with it.
I just want to know if pyodbc is the correct solution to do so or if
it is another db-module that is more
usefull for this job.
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Hi to all,
can anyone give me a jump-start about how to call Stored Procedures
from PyODBC ??
I want to execute a very simple testing Stored Procedure on an Sql
Server database.
I started using PyODBC and code like the following
cnxn = pyodbc.connect('DRIVER={SQL
hi to all folks here,
i am learning Python, just finished a book and i am starting to write
programs.
I just want to ask, is the correct way to deploy my programs to other
computers, the .pyc files ??
I now that with the -m compileall . switch can compile a .py file
into bytecodes. So i suppose
Python code is normally deployed as straight source code.
But isn't this a problem of its own ?? I mean, many people do not feel
good if the know that their source code is lying around on other
machines...
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Are they embarassed by their code?
hehehe...no, just worried about stealing their ideas...
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Under Windows, I ususally use py2exe+inno-setup.
Xmmm...i have downloaded this and try a (very) simple project and it is
working great.
Of your experience, does it also working great when you have more
complex solutions,
e.x. many 3rd party modules like wxWidgets and so ??
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Ok, i got the point...Things are a little bit different on the other
way of the fence (Microsoft way...) and so many of Python's elements
are a little (at least) strange at first...
But hey, thank you all!
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Of course you do not distribute .cs (or .vb) files when deploying your
application, but decompilers for .NET are plenty. Same for Java.
Yes, but in .Net we have some strong dotfuscators that makes reverse
engineer really difficult.
In any way, it is not so easy to get to the source as .py
Hi Johnf,
are you referring to this ?
http://www.freetds.org/
And how i can get psmssql.py so i can get a shot on it, is it included
in FreeTDS ??
On Dec 29, 12:12 am, johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
king kikapu wrote:
Hi to all,
is there a way to use an RDBMS (in my case, SQL Server
Hi to all,
is there a way to use an RDBMS (in my case, SQL Server) from Python by
using some built-in module of the language (v. 2.5) and through ODBC ??
I saw some samples that use statements like import dbi or import
odbc but neither modules (dbi, odbc) are present on my system...
Any hint(s)
Hey Martin,
thanks for the fast reply!
I have already seen that link and i just downloaded the pyodbc module
but isn't Python already containing a built-in odbc module so to
allow for db communication ??
On Dec 28, 6:06 pm, Martin P. Hellwig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
king kikapu wrote:
Hi
What version of Python? Most recent versions don't need the
Hi, thanks for the help!
I am using 2.5 version and i think i like more the @property decorator
instead of the property(...) syntax. Is the code changing much using
@property ??
Thanks again!
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Your example Dennis, work as expected. I understand the mistake i have
made. But when i try to fix the original code usihn @property now, it
gives me the same error.
So, here it is:
class Person(object):
_age = 0
@property
def age():
def fget(self):
return
Hi to all,
i am trying to use properties in Python and i am sure i have made
something wrong with the below code but i just cannot see what it is.
Can anyone please help me on this ?
The code is :
class Person(object):
age = 0
@property
def age():
def fget(self):
you're not listening.
Be sure that i do...The fact that i come from another world does not
mean that i am not listening, just that i find as strange some (new)
things.
Thank you all guys, i know what is happening now...
Thanks again!
kikapu
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Hi,
i am new to python and i have a question about how decorators are
working.
I have understand HOW they do their magic but i am trying to figure out
WHEN they do it...
I have the following simple example:
#-
def author(author_name):
def
def func():
pass
is *exactly* the same thing as:
def func():
pass
func = decorator(func)
Yes, i know that but i thought that it is so when I call the function,
not when the runtime just loads the module...
Python calls the decorator, not the decorated
At first, i am coming from another (language) programming world (C#
mainly) and i hope you understand my wonders.
Ok then, you tell me that the interpreter always execute the code in a
module...If there are only def declarations in the module and no code
to invoke them it does not execute
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