On Monday, December 2, 2013 5:11:15 AM UTC+5:30, jade wrote:
To: pytho...@python.org
From: wlf...@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Checking Common File Types
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 18:23:22 -0500
On Sun, 1 Dec 2013 18:27:16 +, jade jade...@msn.com declaimed the
following:
Hello,
On Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:34:11 AM UTC+5:30, Eamonn Rea wrote:
Thanks for the help!
Ok, I'll look into the mailing list.
[Assuming you are using GG with firefox on linux]
All you need to do is
1. Install 'Its all text' FF addon
2. Point the 'editor' of 'Its all text' to the below python
On Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:52:03 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM, rusi wrote:
On Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:34:11 AM UTC+5:30, Eamonn Rea wrote:
Thanks for the help!
Ok, I'll look into the mailing list.
[Assuming you are using GG with firefox
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:55:55 AM UTC+5:30, larry@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure what you mean by malformed. I don't really care for Google Groups,
but I've been using it to post to this any other groups for years (since rn
and deja news went away) and no one ever said my posts were
This silly google-groups does not reflect changed subject lines!!
That means that GG users who may want to read this may not see it.
So reposting as a new thread:
--
Here's what I do to manage the GG-headaches:
1. Firefox needs to have the Its all text addon
On Thursday, November 28, 2013 7:28:14 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM, rusi wrote:
Here's what I do to manage the GG-headaches:
Useful tips, I am sure, but they solve the problem only for you.
Everyone who reads python-list/c.l.p will have to implement
On Thursday, November 28, 2013 7:55:52 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:17 AM, rusi wrote:
The problems with GG as I understand are
1. Double spacing
2. Long lines
As far as I can see both are cured with the method outlined.
If its not for others and only
On Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:20:39 PM UTC+5:30, Alister wrote:
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:08:17 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:04 AM, rusi wrote:
Its really quite unclear to me why GG is a problem if all the problems
of GG are obviated.
Which is easier, fiddling
Here's a 1-click pure python solution.
As I said I dont know how to manage errors!
1. Put it in a file say cleangg.py and make it executable
2. Install it as the 'editor' for the Its all text firefox addon
3. Click the edit and you should get a cleaned out post
--
On Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:41:30 PM UTC+5:30, Eamonn Rea wrote:
Oh, sorry, I'm new to how Google Groups works. I wonder why it lays it out
like that. Can it not just show quotes like the way that PHPbb does?
I never thought of reading the source code, thanks! :-)
Oh, and the last
On Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:59:13 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 11/28/2013 10:23 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
Funny, I thought the sentiment of many here was, let's just keep this
as a newsgroup, why do we need the mailing list also? but I'll admit to
being confused about what
On Friday, November 29, 2013 12:07:29 AM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote:
On Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:59:13 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 11/28/2013 10:23 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
Funny, I thought the sentiment of many here was, let's just keep this
as a newsgroup, why do we need
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:41:54 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 11/26/13 8:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
Classic Rick Rant
And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare why we
are all of us speaking English completely wrong (to his ears)?
And to my (Indian!!)
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:02:54 PM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote:
[Last line cut-off by mistake!]
It is my impression that the arguments that happen in/around
programming languages are more-heat-less-light than in typical
art/science because artistic questions masquerade
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:18:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:26:48 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
[...]
A new home-run record!
What is this home-run of which you speak? Houses don't generally run.
Surely you're not using a regional idiom outside of your
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:27:52 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Kern wrote:
On 2013-11-27 08:16, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef:
On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon wrote:
So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:39:37 PM UTC+5:30, Larry wrote:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Paul Rudin wrote:
rusi writes:
Propositionally: All languages are equal -- Turing complete
As an aside, not all languages are Turing complete. For example Charity
is a language
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:16:50 PM UTC+5:30, Amjad Syed wrote:
Hello,
I am working on a problem (Bioinformatics domain) where all possible
combinations of input string needs to be printed as sublist
If we take the standard combinations (Pascal triangle) result
nCr + nCr-1 = n+1Cr
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:55:12 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Chase wrote:
On 2013-11-27 01:32, rusi wrote:
And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare
why we are all of us speaking English completely wrong (to his
ears)?
And to my (Indian!!) ears when Tim says 'plank
On Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:05:13 AM UTC+5:30, jm.almeras wrote:
Hello !
I wish to develop a database application with a lot of specific
functionnalities dealing with sound files.
I have developped an Access prototype and run into a first problem : it
is not so easy to find code
On Friday, November 22, 2013 6:22:29 PM UTC+5:30, Bharath Kummar wrote:
Hello Sir/Mam,
Could you please help me with my current research ? Am implementing the
concept in python language.
My doubts are :
1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ?
2) Is it
On Friday, November 22, 2013 11:02:43 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
To a fluent Python programmer, that's what semi-colons are like, although
to a lesser degree. An unnecessary distraction and annoyance, rather like
people who talk like this:
Er, I prefer, um, using the semicolons,
On Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:42:05 PM UTC+5:30, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
Στις 16/11/2013 6:46 μμ, ο/η YBM έγραψε:
You are utterly stupid:
1st: rm does not read its standard input so doing
whatever | rm -fr is useless
2st: even if it had worked (i.e. removed the files) they
would still
On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:31:07 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 10:30:26 AM UTC-6, rusi wrote:
print ( {mon:mondays suck,
tue:at least it's not monday,
wed:humpday
}.get(day_of_week,its some other day)
)
Rick
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:38:25 PM UTC+5:30, John von Horn wrote:
Another useful tool in the programmer's toolbox
Select DayofWeek
case mon
...
end select
You can typically write this in python as a dictionary
cases = {mon: do_mon-action,
tue, do_tue_action,
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 9:26:02 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
In article rusi wrote:
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:38:25 PM UTC+5:30, John von Horn wrote:
Another useful tool in the programmer's toolbox
Select DayofWeek
case mon
...
end select
You can typically
On Friday, November 8, 2013 9:18:05 PM UTC+5:30, jonas.t...@gmail.com wrote:
Den fredagen den 8:e november 2013 kl. 03:43:17 UTC+1 skrev zipher:
I am not sure if it is just stupidness or laziness that prevent you from
seeing that 4^8=65536.
I can see that 4^8 = 65536. Now how are you
On Friday, November 8, 2013 11:38:37 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 4:11 AM, rurpy wrote:
On 11/08/2013 03:05 AM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote:
I never ignore advices.
I read all answers as carefully as i can.
But nevertheless sometimes i feel things should have
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 8:45:17 AM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote:
I recollect Denis saying with a great deal of IRRITATION that he had
installed something (dont remember exactly what) and tried it out on
his machine JUST TO HELP NIKOS.
By which I meant to say also that Nikos is not just getting
On Friday, November 8, 2013 7:55:18 AM UTC+5:30, jonas wrote:
Den fredagen den 8:e november 2013 kl. 03:17:36 UTC+1 skrev Chris Angelico:
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:05 PM, jonas.thornvall wrote:
I guess what matter is how fast an algorithm can encode and decode a big
number, at least if
On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 11:29:11 PM UTC+5:30, Denis McMahon wrote:
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 09:30:03 +0200, Nick the Gr33k wrote:
I have decided to take your advice.
No you haven't. You only think you have, but really you either haven't…
No, you think that he thinks that he has.
Of
On Monday, November 4, 2013 7:57:19 PM UTC+5:30, Dave Angel wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 05:53:28 -0800 (PST), Jonas wrote:
Well let me try to explain why it is working and i have implemented one.
I only need to refresh my memory it was almost 15 years ago.
This is not the solution but this is
On Monday, November 4, 2013 9:47:18 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
Blargh, wrong list. It should have been private anyway. Kindly take no
notice of the man behind the 3AM clock...
ChrisA
Ive got a little list Ive got a little list
For Australians of all kinds Ive got a little list
--
On Sunday, November 3, 2013 11:15:48 AM UTC+5:30, E.D.G. wrote:
rusi wrote:
Not sure what will… you may look at Julia: http://julialang.org/
That program language speed comparison table looks quite interesting.
And I asked some of the other people that I work with to take a look
On Sunday, November 3, 2013 1:13:13 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 01:02:24 -0500, E.D.G. wrote:
[...]
Since Perl has a calculation speed
limit that is probably not easy to get around, before too long another
language will be selected for initially doing certain
On Monday, November 4, 2013 12:28:24 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 03/11/2013 18:28, rusi wrote:
Which means take something like the pairwise function and code it
up in python and julia -- its hardly 10 lines of code. And see
what comparative performance you get.
Solely
On Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:49:48 PM UTC+5:30, Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira
wrote:
I have one .xls file with the values of PV MV and SP, I wanna to
calculate Kp Ki Kd with python from this file, can anyone give me any
suggestion about how can I do this? From now, thanks.
You need something
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:37:40 AM UTC+5:30, John Ladasky wrote:
Hi folks,
My side job as a Python tutor continues to grow. In two weeks, I
will start working with a high-school student who owns a MacBook
Pro.
So, what other free and lightweight editing options do I have for a
Mac?
On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:26:01 PM UTC+5:30, paul@rudin.co.uk wrote:
nf7 writes:
MacVim is the best text editor...
fighting talk!
:)
No I am not muscular enough to return the fighting talk...
Except to say that nf7 is top-posting
--
On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:13:06 PM UTC+5:30, Denis McMahon wrote:
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:25:31 +0200, Nick the Gr33k wrote:
I just want a mysql column type that can be eligible to store an array
of elements, a list that is, no need for having a seperate extra table
for that if we
On Friday, November 1, 2013 4:47:40 PM UTC+5:30, Alister wrote:
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 04:07:14 -0700, rusi wrote:
Also others (Alister?) were double-space-reply-posting as well. When
you mean to point out a behavior without getting personal, it helps to
point out all instances
On Saturday, November 2, 2013 6:01:12 AM UTC+5:30, flebber wrote:
What I know and have learnt.
- Use lxml to open view and find info from nodes of an XML file
My main roadblock is the XML process, I am finding it unclear to understand
what tools and how to manage this process.
Most
On Saturday, November 2, 2013 7:31:20 AM UTC+5:30, flebber wrote:
Yes I have done the lxml search and learnt how to open view and query the
file.
But what is the next step in the process? To get it so that I can reliably
push XML files to my database repeatedly.
Looking for a basic
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:37:31 AM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 30-10-13 21:52, Ned Batchelder schreef:
On 10/30/13 3:59 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 30-10-13 20:13, Jonas schreef:
No it isn't...
The programmers of the tools on either of side will have to adapt.
I wish it
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:41:41 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 31/10/2013 07:37, rusi wrote:
If Mark had not been rude to Jonas and explained to him at a little more
length, maybe he would not be assholing in full-blast.
What rubbish. The OP was asked repeatedly, first by Dave
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:42:15 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 31-10-13 08:37, rusi schreef:
2. Antoon: I was a bit surprised at your siding with the indentation
business.
As an old-geezer programmer I can think of a number of reasons why,
indentation=structure is a problem
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:00:24 AM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote:
What I'm confounded about is this list's inability to recognise a
troll when it slaps it vocally in the face.
This isn't like Nikos. There's no troll vs. incompetent debate to be
had.
Its usually called entertainment.
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:31:14 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 31/10/2013 11:40, rusi wrote:
Please treat python as a given -- like the sun, moon and taxes.
You missed the most obvious one, trolls :)
:D
Only that's not an element but a set -- trolls, nuts, dicks, philosophers
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:08:48 PM UTC+5:30, E.D.G. wrote:
Posted by E.D.G. October 31, 2013
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the responses. Several of my questions were answered.
The calculation speed question just involves relatively
simple math such as multiplications and
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:50:27 PM UTC+5:30, Neil Cerutti wrote:
wrote:
This suggests that Pascal went against established practice.
This is false. FORTRAN used = and that was a mistake caused by
the language being hacked together haphazardly.
Respectfully, the designers of FORTRAN
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:20:52 PM UTC+5:30, Denis McMahon wrote:
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 09:05:04 -0700, rusi wrote:
If I say: My uncle knows more about flying planes than
the Wright brothers am I disrespecting the Wright brothers??
No, but that's not what you said.
What you said
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:18:20 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
Chris Angelico writes:
*Definitely* use source control.
+1, but prefer to call it a “version control system” which is (a) more
easily searched on the internet,
On Friday, November 1, 2013 8:55:03 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 01/11/2013 02:27, William Ray Wing wrote:
supper computers
Somebody must have tough teeth, though thinking about it I recall people
eating bicycles :)
You just have to be sufficiently non-vegetarian
distance between the strings
Albert van der Horst and Rusi Mody. But you were objecting not to the
state-er but to the statement...
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 3:43:03 PM UTC+5:30, jonas.t...@gmail.com wrote:
Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 11:00:30 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
* * Please stop sending us double spaced crap.
* * Mark Lawrence
* I am not sure what you want.
And then again
* You want me to remove the
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 6:43:33 PM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote:
For the double spacing rubbish produced by GG, I hacked up a bit of
emacs lisp code
snipped
--
To try
1. Eval the following in emacs*
Tsk! It should be eval the preceding elisp!
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:05:29 PM UTC+5:30, Jonas Thornval wrote:
Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
On 30/10/2013 14:31, Jonas Thornval wrote:
Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:27:08 PM UTC+5:30, jonas.t...@gmail.com wrote:
Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:54:19 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
The simplest solution is that you stop posting, as you've been spewing
this double spaced crap all day and show no inclination to do
Super Kushal!
Below is the result of that
First the original
Then emacs' cleaned up version!
-Original --
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:00:47 PM UTC+5:30, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
rusi writes:
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:05:29 PM UTC+5
Well it seems that we are considerably closer to a solution to the GG
double-spaced crap problem.
Just wondering if someone can suggest a cleanup of the regexp part
Currently I have (elisp)
(defun clean-gg ()
(interactive)
1 (replace-regexp ^ *\n *\n *$ -=\=- nil 0 (point-max))
2
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:14:51 PM UTC+5:30, Neil Cerutti wrote:
On 2013-10-28, Nobody wrote:
If you're sufficiently concerned about performance that you're
willing to trade clarity for it, you shouldn't be using Python
in the first place.
When you detect a code small, as
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:10:20 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Gonda wrote:
Unfortunately I'm not that sort of person, the way my brain learns is by
experimenting, but first I need to know exactly what to write. Then I will
play
around with it and customize it to my needs, sorry to be such a
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:01:38 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Gonda wrote:
I honestly don't get it? this any better? ;D
In google groups you will see a small 'show quoted text'
Click it you will see what a cascading avalanche of mess is produced.
Yes GG is stupid, not you. But if you use it (as
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:35:52 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Gonda wrote:
Is this better then?
By a bit. For most here not enough
Open the 'show quoted text' in your last post it shows like so
[Ive replaced '' by '' so GG will show it
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:01:38 PM UTC+5:30, Robert
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:52:04 PM UTC+5:30, Neil Cerutti wrote:
I just want to add that this programming exercise, while pretty
common, stinks.
A new programmer shouldn't be embroiled in the morass of
interactive programming.
Cheers to that!
If the 'print' statement were called a
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:54:08 PM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
Also, what Mark and Rusi were trying to say (not very clearly)
is that when you post from Google Groups, Google Groups insert
a lot of empty lines in the the at the top of the message.
So from the most recent post do
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:56:28 PM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:52:15 AM UTC-6, rusi wrote:
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:54:08 PM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
Also, what Mark and Rusi were trying to say (not very clearly)
is that when you
On Monday, October 28, 2013 11:10:21 AM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
I updated the page, hopefully it's an improvement?
Most people who top-post have no idea that they are top-posting and that there
are alternatives and they are preferred (out here)
On Monday, October 28, 2013 11:26:21 AM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote:
On Monday, October 28, 2013 11:10:21 AM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
I updated the page, hopefully it's an improvement?
Otherwise ok I think
Just looked at the general netiquette link -- its long and not much use
On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:14:50 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Here's an analogy:
Person A: Clean my room for me!
Person B: No. Clean it yourself. Here's the vacuum cleaner.
Person A: CLEAN MY ROOM!!!
Person B: No. You made the mess, you're old enough to clean it yourself.
On Monday, October 28, 2013 10:38:45 PM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
We've already seen a few new people explicitly asking, is this what
usually happens on this list? and they weren't referring to the
Chris-style response, they were referring to the Mark-style
response.
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:37:40 AM UTC+5:30, John Ladasky wrote:
So, what other free and lightweight editing options do I have for a Mac? I
have found a few (fairly old) discussions on comp.lang.python which suggest
Eric (http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/) and Editra
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:16:07 AM UTC+5:30, Gary Roach wrote:
Hi all,
I have been trying to set up a python, django, mysql, virtualenvwrapper
and git development project and am really confused. All of the
documentation seems to ignore the apt-get installation methods used by
Debian
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:34:11 AM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 10/26/2013 07:45 PM, rusi wrote:
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 2:07:53 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Rusi said:
Users of GG are requested to read and follow these instructions
https://wiki.python.org/moin
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:07:29 PM UTC+5:30, Zero Piraeus wrote:
The results:
Senders: 1701
GG users: 879
... so just over 50%.
If anyone wants the complete output, just let me know and I'll email it
privately.
If you have a GG account just go to the 'aboutgroup' info here:
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:47:16 AM UTC+5:30, theel...@gmail.com wrote:
I apologize but I do not understand what you mean by lack of context. I
have
taken Chris' words into consideration, for my previous post was supposed to
be
my last (I just had to say thank you). This is my first
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 2:07:53 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Rusi said:
Users of GG are requested to read and follow these instructions
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
Yes, I read those instructions and found them fairly opaque. If you want to
instruct
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:44:35 AM UTC+5:30, Gary Roach wrote:
Hi
In the process of trying to learn python, django, mysql and
virtualenvwrapper, I have created two projects and a mess. How can I
strip everything from a Debian, Wheezy, linux system. The files are all
over the place.
On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:50:33 PM UTC+5:30, MRAB wrote:
On 26/10/2013 18:36, HC wrote:
I'm doing my first year in university and I need help with this basic
assignment.
Assignment: Write Python script that prints sum of cubes of numbers between
0-200 that are multiples of 3.
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 1:02:38 AM UTC+5:30, Stephan Vladimir Bugaj wrote:
I rarely ever post here.
But I wanted to say that people responding to this Nikos troll makes reading
this list a nuisance.
You've never ever been successful in convincing him to behave, and it's been
going on
On Monday, October 28, 2013 3:44:14 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Otherwise, most of this, while sloppy, still stands.
Yes
All your quotes are unattributed
So your discussion is both sloppy and meaningless
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Monday, October 28, 2013 4:56:38 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
I'm not in any special position of power here; I'm not beholden to
address every instance of bad behaviour or none at all. Any member of
this community can apply the same social pressure, and together we can
cover as many of
On Saturday, October 26, 2013 8:10:16 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Your personal attacks are not appreciated. Why can you not accept that
people who post using GG's defaults cause pain and difficulty to many --
probably the great majority -- of readers who use either the mailing list
On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:20:40 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I could almost feel sorry for you. But the more of your time I waste
the longer it'll take you to get your website working. Did you ever
stop to think about that? Or are you too busy trolling hundreds of
other
On Sunday, October 27, 2013 2:07:53 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Rusi said:
Users of GG are requested to read and follow these instructions
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
Seriously, it's not exactly clear what protocol GG users are expected follow
to make posts
On Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:15:43 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Clearly the python list has been taken over by TheKooks. Notice he
did not respond to the request. Since we are talking about digital
computers (with digital memory), I'm really curious what the hex value
for NaN is to
On Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:39:09 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM, rusi wrote:
I dont see how thats any more relevant than:
Whats the hex value of the add instruction?
You don't see. That is correct. Btw, I believe the hex value for
the add
On Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:16:58 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:36:04 -0400, Ned Batchelder wrote:
coverage.py currently runs on 2.3 through 3.4
You support all the way back to 2.3???
I don't know whether to admire your dedication, or back away slowly
Mark Janssen said:
Unattributed
No its not like those 'compilers' i dont really agree with a compiler
generating C/C++ and saying its producing native code. I dont really
believe
its truely within the statement. Compilers that do that tend to put in alot
of type saftey code and
On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:53:22 PM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
A BNF doesn't provide enough information to compile a program to C.
That's all I'm trying to help you understand. If you don't agree, then
we have to talk about the meaning of the words BNF, compile, program, and C.
I
On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 7:06:40 AM UTC+5:30, alex23 wrote:
On 23/10/2013 4:40 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
I've tried to be polite, and I've tried to be helpful, but I'm sorry:
either you don't understand a lot of the terms you are throwing around,
or you aren't disciplined enough to
On Monday, October 21, 2013 2:13:52 PM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Specifically the following seems so misguided as to be deliberate trolling.
The same could be said for this below… but…
One of the reasons multiple languages exist is because people find that
useful programming idioms
On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:25:58 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Guess-who said:
but it's ugly, by which I mean it is hard to use, error prone, and not
easily maintained.
OK, I see the problem. What you call ugly is really just objectively bad.
You continue to not attribute quotes.
On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:59:36 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 10/21/13 4:14 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
An optimizing JIT compiler can
often produce much more efficient, heavily optimized code than a static
AOT compiler,
On Monday, October 14, 2013 10:32:36 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:13:32 -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:
def add(c1, c2):
% Decode
c1 = ord(c1) - 65
c2 = ord(c2) - 65
% Process
i1 = (c1 + c2) % 26
% Encode
return
On Monday, October 21, 2013 7:51:12 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
In article
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
According to
some, Java, which has many low-level machine primitive types, is an
object-oriented language, while Python, which has no machine primitives
and where every value is an
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 8:40:37 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
Zero Piraeus wrote:
For example, a miscreant may create the username 'míguel' in order to
pose as another user 'miguel', relying on other users inattentiveness.
Asciifying is one way of reducing the risk of that.
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 7:04:30 PM UTC+5:30, Scott Novinger wrote:
My plan is to create several different programs that perform specific
Algebraic
operations. My boys are learning Algebra 2 and I thought it might be a fun
way
to help us all learn Algebra and programming together.
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:02:24 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
I still say that object-based is a distinct and meaningful subset of
object-oriented programming.
Yes that is what is asserted by
http://www-public.int-evry.fr/~gibson/Teaching/CSC7322/ReadingMaterial/Wegner87.pdf
-- a
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:19:02 PM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Object oriented programming takes things further, most significantly by
introducing the idea that the object reference you are referencing might be a
run time dependent sub-class. Even Python, which isn't strongly
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