Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-05 Thread James Griffin
[- Tue 5.Mar'13 at 2:42:07 + Steven D'Aprano :-] On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:09:10 -0500, David Robinow wrote: But here's what I don't understand. Why does somebody who posts as much as Steven (and thanks for that. Getting cussed at occasionally is a cheap price for

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 05/03/2013 02:54, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: It's easy for him to deal with it, all he has to do is get a goat to eat the garden waste I toss over the fence, and his problem is solved. Sounds like

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 05 March 2013 06:54:14 Mark Lawrence did opine: On 05/03/2013 02:54, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: It's easy for him to deal with it, all he has to do is get a goat to eat the garden waste

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread David Robinow
Ignoring my own posting ban, since I've clearly been misunderstood .. On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:11:04 -0500, David Robinow wrote: Do you consider it rude that you choose to use a newsreader, thus

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread David Robinow
Crap. I just forgot to do what I just said I would do and didn't go through my inconvenient sequence. Sorry, Steven. It was unintentional. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread Dave Angel
On 03/04/2013 11:15 AM, David Robinow wrote: Crap. I just forgot to do what I just said I would do and didn't go through my inconvenient sequence. Sorry, Steven. It was unintentional. FWIW, you don't have to bother moving the python-list address to a To: field. Just remove the personal

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:09:10 -0500, David Robinow wrote: But here's what I don't understand. Why does somebody who posts as much as Steven (and thanks for that. Getting cussed at occasionally is a cheap price for all the free advice) not set up a simple mail filter which trashes all mail

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: It's easy for him to deal with it, all he has to do is get a goat to eat the garden waste I toss over the fence, and his problem is solved. Sounds like someone got Steven's goat. *dives for cover*

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 04 March 2013 23:00:31 Chris Angelico did opine: On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: It's easy for him to deal with it, all he has to do is get a goat to eat the garden waste I toss over the fence, and his problem is

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:21:37 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:11:04 -0500, David Robinow wrote: Do you consider it rude that you choose to use a newsreader, thus inconveniencing those of us who use the mailing list, as God intended. How the flying fuck does my choice

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:00:13 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: How the flying fuck does my choice of where and how *I* read this forum inconvenience YOU? Talk about an overactive sense of entitlement.

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread James Griffin
[- Sat 2.Mar'13 at 17:54:57 +1100 Chris Angelico :-] On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Devin Jeanpierre jeanpierr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: No offence Chris, but you're the only person I know who *regularly*

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster as well as the list. What I want is reply-list, acknowledging the list headers... and Gmail simply doesn't have that. I've been replying to the poster and the list for ages. Is

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Tim Golden
On 02/03/2013 14:53, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster as well as the list. What I want is reply-list, acknowledging the list headers... and Gmail simply doesn't have that. I've been

good mail readers [was Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment]

2013-03-02 Thread Ethan Furman
On 03/02/2013 12:06 AM, James Griffin wrote: [- Sat 2.Mar'13 at 17:54:57 +1100 Chris Angelico :-] I also want to be able to change my mind as to whether it's reply-all/reply-list/reply-sender after typing up a reply. Guess it's time I grabbed Tbird to find out if it can do

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster as well as the list. What I want is reply-list, acknowledging the list headers... and Gmail simply doesn't have

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Roy Smith
In article 513298fa$0$30001$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread David Robinow
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but reply-all sends a copy to the poster as well as the list. What

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Roy Smith
In article mailman.2806.1362276667.2939.python-l...@python.org, David Robinow drobi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM,

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread David Robinow
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: In article mailman.2806.1362276667.2939.python-l...@python.org, David Robinow drobi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:01 PM, David Robinow drobi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: There's a number of advantages to news vs. mail. The biggest is that news spools generally keep a long history around, so it's easy to go back and review a

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 19:42:50 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: In article 513298fa$0$30001$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:11:04 -0500, David Robinow wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:53:47 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread David Robinow
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:01 PM, David Robinow drobi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: There's a number of advantages to news vs. mail. The biggest is that news spools

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:18 PM, David Robinow drobi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: But your mail has only what you receive. You have to hunt down a separate archive of what was posted before you joined the thread. Advantage goes to

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-02 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: How the flying fuck does my choice of where and how *I* read this forum inconvenience YOU? Talk about an overactive sense of entitlement. The world does not revolve around you and I do not arrange my

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:55 AM, 김용빈 kyb...@gmail.com wrote: why we bother with '{variable}'.format(variable=variable) ? can we just '{variable}.format()' ? if variable is exist, then assign it. if variable is not exist, then raise error I am not language expert. so sorry if this is not a

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 04:07:19 +1100, Chris Angelico replied to a thread of Python-ideas: You're asking for a facility whereby variables magically get pulled from the caller's scope. As interesting as that is, I think you sent it to the wrong list :) Again. O_o No offence Chris, but you're

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 04:07:19 +1100, Chris Angelico replied to a thread of Python-ideas: You're asking for a facility whereby variables magically get pulled from the caller's scope. As interesting as

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-01 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: No offence Chris, but you're the only person I know who *regularly* replies to the wrong list. Does your mail client not have a Reply to List command, or Reply All? If so, then you should use it rather than manually typing

Re: [Python-ideas] string.format() default variable assignment

2013-03-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Devin Jeanpierre jeanpierr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: No offence Chris, but you're the only person I know who *regularly* replies to the wrong list. Does your mail client not have a Reply to List