Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-20 Thread Aahz
In article , Terry Reedy wrote: > >Some usenet newsgroups were/are moderated either by a robot, a person, >or a team (as you suggested). But a particular newsgroup has to be set >up that way from the beginning. Last I knew, it wan/is? difficult to >convert an unmoderated group to moderation.

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-16 Thread gil_johnson
On Nov 14, 12:08 pm, r wrote: > On Nov 14, 7:28 am, gil_johnson wrote: > Actually there is a "rank this post" (gotta be careful with that > verbage!) AND a "report this post as spam". Of course it only exists > in GG's and not Usenet. I *do* know that the star system is used quite > frequently,

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-16 Thread Terry Reedy
kj wrote: In <7x3a4i56u7@ruckus.brouhaha.com> Paul Rubin writes: kj writes: frequent* clp posters the ability to *easily* delete spam from the comp.lang.python server? Um, this is usenet; there is no comp.lang.python server. Are you saying you want a mo

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-16 Thread kj
In <7x3a4i56u7@ruckus.brouhaha.com> Paul Rubin writes: >kj writes: >> frequent* clp posters the ability to *easily* delete spam from the >> comp.lang.python server? >Um, this is usenet; there is no comp.lang.python server. Are you >saying you want a moderate

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-15 Thread David Bolen
Terry Reedy writes: > r wrote: >> On Nov 14, 4:59 am, kj wrote: >>> But, as I already showed, I'm out of my depth here, >>> so I'd better shut up. >> >> Don't give up so easy! The idea is great, what Paul is saying is that >> most people who read this group use newsreaders and that has nothing >

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread Aahz
In article <7xiqddt1fd@ruckus.brouhaha.com>, Paul Rubin wrote: > >There is automatic moderation software that auto-approves any post >from an address that has had one or two posts manually approved. >While that's susceptible to address forgery, the typical spamme

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread Aahz
In article <877htsskox@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote: >Terry Reedy writes: >> >> So, the only reason to use c.l.p is if one wants to post anonymously, >> like the spammers do ;-). > >Or if one has an ISP who provides a Usenet feed, like mine does. Mine does, too. >A pox upon Andrew Cu

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread Terry Reedy
Ben Finney wrote: Terry Reedy writes: So, the only reason to use c.l.p is if one wants to post anonymously, like the spammers do ;-). Or if one has an ISP who provides a Usenet feed, like mine does. Gmane is a nntp news feed, just not a usenet feed. If you can read usenet, you can read gm

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread Terry Reedy
r wrote: On Nov 14, 4:52 pm, Terry Reedy wrote: So, the only reason to use c.l.p is if one wants to post anonymously, like the spammers do ;-). I don't think that completely correct. Lots of people find GG's to be more suited to their news reading pleasures, I was referring to c.l.p on a nn

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread Terry Reedy
Paul Rubin wrote: Terry Reedy writes: To post from g.c.p.g, one must use a real email address and respond once to an email sent to that address. So, the only reason to use c.l.p is if one wants to post anonymously, like the spammers do ;-). No I don't think so. "Unwilling to disclose email

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread Ben Finney
Terry Reedy writes: > So, the only reason to use c.l.p is if one wants to post anonymously, > like the spammers do ;-). Or if one has an ISP who provides a Usenet feed, like mine does. A pox upon Andrew Cuomo for bashing ISPs in the USA with the stick of “child pornography” (which he discovered

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread r
On Nov 14, 4:52 pm, Terry Reedy wrote: > So, the only reason to use c.l.p is if one wants to post anonymously, > like the spammers do ;-). I don't think that completely correct. Lots of people find GG's to be more suited to their news reading pleasures, i am one of them. I hate to have an email j

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread Paul Rubin
Terry Reedy writes: > To post from g.c.p.g, one must use a real email address and respond > once to an email sent to that address. > > So, the only reason to use c.l.p is if one wants to post anonymously, > like the spammers do ;-). No I don't think so. "Unwilling to disclose email address or e

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread Terry Reedy
r wrote: On Nov 14, 4:59 am, kj wrote: But, as I already showed, I'm out of my depth here, so I'd better shut up. Don't give up so easy! The idea is great, what Paul is saying is that most people who read this group use newsreaders and that has nothing to do with google groups. These guy's ha

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread Paul Rubin
"Alf P. Steinbach" writes: > The problem with moderation isn't getting rid of spam and trolls etc., > but turnaround time. There is automatic moderation software that auto-approves any post from an address that has had one or two posts manually approved. While that's susceptible to address forger

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread r
On Nov 14, 7:28 am, gil_johnson wrote: > How about using a "rank this post" feature? Anybody could rank a post > as spam, and a sufficiently large number of negatives would quickly > draw the attention of someone with the power to kill the message. I > suppose even this is subject to abuse, allow

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* gil_johnson: On Nov 13, 5:29 pm, kj wrote: [...] Or it could be set up so that at least n > 1 "delete" votes and no "keep" votes are required to get something nixed. Etc. This seems simpler than all-out moderation. ("all-out moderation"? now, there's an oxymoron for ya!) How about using

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread gil_johnson
On Nov 13, 5:29 pm, kj wrote: [...] > Or it could be set up so that at least n > 1 "delete" votes and no > "keep" votes are required to get something nixed.  Etc. > > This seems simpler than all-out moderation. > > ("all-out moderation"? now, there's an oxymoron for ya!) > How about using a "rank

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-14 Thread r
On Nov 14, 4:59 am, kj wrote: > But, as I already showed, I'm out of my depth here, > so I'd better shut up. Don't give up so easy! The idea is great, what Paul is saying is that most people who read this group use newsreaders and that has nothing to do with google groups. These guy's have kill f

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-13 Thread r
On Nov 13, 5:29 pm, kj wrote: > This is "meta-question" about comp.lang.python.  I apologize in > advance if it has been already discussed.  Also, I don't know enough > about the underlying mechanics of comp.lang.python, so this may be > *totally unfeasible*, but how about giving a few bona fide *

Re: A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-13 Thread Paul Rubin
kj writes: > frequent* clp posters the ability to *easily* delete spam from the > comp.lang.python server? Um, this is usenet; there is no comp.lang.python server. Are you saying you want a moderated newsgroup? Hmm, maybe this group is busy enough that there is some merit to that idea. -- ht

A "terminators' club" for clp

2009-11-13 Thread kj
This is "meta-question" about comp.lang.python. I apologize in advance if it has been already discussed. Also, I don't know enough about the underlying mechanics of comp.lang.python, so this may be *totally unfeasible*, but how about giving a few bona fide *and frequent* clp posters the ability