bramble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [ GTK is ] free
>software, so contributors can try and make the L&F more native if it's
>really that big a deal.
But the people who care about Windows native L&F are not the people
with the resources (time, money, probably experience) to address
this issue. An
On Oct 25, 6:32 am, "Chris Mellon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/24/07, bramble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In the end, GTK+ is themable, and it's a free software project, so if
> > the MS Windows port has warts, anyone can come along and polish it up
> > for that platform.
>
> There's be
On 10/24/07, bramble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 23, 2:59 pm, "Chris Mellon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 10/23/07, maco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 13, 12:34 am, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Qt doesn't look very native on my desktop. In
On Oct 12, 6:30 am, Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd recommend wxPython over those becase
>
> 1) native look and feel on all platforms
> 2) doesn't require expensive licensing for non-commercial apps (QT)
> 3) Isn't a pain to install on windows (GTK)
>
> That said, times change an
On Oct 23, 2:59 pm, "Chris Mellon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/23/07, maco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > On Oct 13, 12:34 am, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Qt doesn't look very native on my desktop. In fact, Qt apps have always
> > > looked out of place on a Gnome
On 10/23/07, maco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 12:34 am, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Alexandre Badez wrote:
> > > Personnaly, I use PyQt simply because I prefere Qt to Gtk, witch is
> > > much more integrated with all desktop than Gtk.
> > > In fact, your application
On Oct 13, 12:34 am, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alexandre Badez wrote:
> > Personnaly, I use PyQt simply because I prefere Qt to Gtk, witch is
> > much more integrated with all desktop than Gtk.
> > In fact, your application in Qt on Mac, Win or Linux look like a
> > native app.
David Tremouilles wrote:
> "crappy", "waaay better"
> I will not feed the troll...
> Pygtk on mac just do the work for me on a more than satisfying way.
I should have worded more carefully, it wasn't intended as trolling. Sorry
for that.
But the point I wanted to make still stands - the native
David Tremouilles wrote:
> "crappy", "waaay better"
> I will not feed the troll...
> Pygtk on mac just do the work for me on a more than satisfying way.
>
If that's the case, good for you. If your application is open-source,
then perhaps it's not unreasonable to expect your users to adapt to t
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:34:14 +0200, Michael L Torrie
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> You do have
> to take pains to make the app "feel" native, though. Like follow the UI
> guidelines of the platform, etc.
You're absolutely right; I just wanted to add a precision: it's true for
every too
"crappy", "waaay better"
I will not feed the troll...
Pygtk on mac just do the work for me on a more than satisfying way.
David
2007/10/13, Diez B. Roggisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> David Tremouilles schrieb:
> > No issue with pygtk on mac!
> > Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport
David Tremouilles schrieb:
> No issue with pygtk on mac!
> Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport take care of the
> installation for me http://www.macports.org/ (Fink should do the work
> too).
> Of course native GTK on OSX could be nice but definitely not needed at
> this point in
David Tremouilles wrote:
> No issue with pygtk on mac!
> Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport take care of the
> installation for me http://www.macports.org/ (Fink should do the work
> too).
> Of course native GTK on OSX could be nice but definitely not needed at
> this point in ti
On 2007-10-13, David Tremouilles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No issue with pygtk on mac!
If running on top of X11 is no problem.
> Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport take care of the
> installation for me http://www.macports.org/ (Fink should do the work
> too).
In that case
No issue with pygtk on mac!
Actually I develop on this platform everyday. Macport take care of the
installation for me http://www.macports.org/ (Fink should do the work
too).
Of course native GTK on OSX could be nice but definitely not needed at
this point in time.
David
2007/10/13, Dave Cook <[E
On 2007-10-13, David Tremouilles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would recommend pyGTK http://www.pygtk.org/
Native GTK on OSX is still in its infancy. For early adopters only at
this point. See
http://www.oreillynet.com/articles/author/2414
That leaves PyQt and WxPython as the only other rea
> anymore and people in tcl/tk moved onto better toolkits long ago.
>
> My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should*
> be using for quick-n-dirty cross platform GUI development? I guess
> this is tangentially related to:
>
> http://groups.google
Alexandre Badez wrote:
> Personnaly, I use PyQt simply because I prefere Qt to Gtk, witch is
> much more integrated with all desktop than Gtk.
> In fact, your application in Qt on Mac, Win or Linux look like a
> native app.
Qt doesn't look very native on my desktop. In fact, Qt apps have always
l
On Fri Oct 12 12:30:13 CEST 2007, Nick Craig-Wood wrote:
> I'd recommend wxPython over those becase
>
> 1) native look and feel on all platforms
> 2) doesn't require expensive licensing for non-commercial apps (QT)
"Expensive" licensing is not required if you use the GNU General Public
License (
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:30:13 -0500, Nick Craig-Wood wrote:
> 3) Isn't a pain to install on windows (GTK)
pygtk is easy to install on windows if you use cygwin.
I started developing a little ssh GUI frontend on a windows laptop using
cygwin pygtk and cygwin openssh. When I moved it over to a Li
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should*
> be using for quick-n-dirty cross platform GUI development? I guess
> this is tangentially related to:
What widgets are you using in Tix? They may be available in BWidgets,
Tableli
On 2007-10-12, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use wxPython, because it uses Gtk on Linux, and Gtk is
> "native" for both me and for my Windows users.
I didn't state that very well.
What I meant was that wxPython uses Gtk under Linux (which is
native for me) so wxPython looks nati
On 2007-10-12, BlueBird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'd recommend wxPython over those becase
>>
>> 1) native look and feel on all platforms
Not true for KDE or other non-Gtk desktops.
> You get it with PyQt as well.
Not true for Gnome or other non-Qt desktops.
There is no single "native look
On 2007-10-12, Alexandre Badez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Personnaly, I use PyQt simply because I prefere Qt to Gtk,
> witch is much more integrated with all desktop than Gtk.
So you're claiming Qt is much more integrated with Gnome than
Gtk? The mind wobbles. The Gnome and XFCE desktops are _
On 10/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should*
> be using for quick-n-dirty cross platform GUI development?
I would heartily recommend Dabo (http://dabodev.com). It wraps the
wxPython toolkit, but elimi
d a lot of unmet dependencies. I then
> read a post which said that only Tkinter/Python people really use Tix
> anymore and people in tcl/tk moved onto better toolkits long ago.
>
> My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should*
> be using for quick-n-dirty cr
On Oct 12, 12:30 pm, Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should*
> > > be using for quick-n-dirty cross platform GUI development? I guess
> > > this is tangentially related to:
>
Alexandre Badez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 12, 10:13 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should*
> > be using for quick-n-dirty cross platform GUI development? I g
ot of unmet dependencies. I then
> read a post which said that only Tkinter/Python people really use Tix
> anymore and people in tcl/tk moved onto better toolkits long ago.
>
> My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should*
> be using for quick-n-dirty cross
better toolkits long ago.
My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should*
be using for quick-n-dirty cross platform GUI development? I guess
this is tangentially related to:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/2ed58ff6ac7d030c/42ed0d40ffd0b1c0?l
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